calNgary Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 So this will be the Fourth time he has been given a new identity to protect him since he was charged with murdering Jamie Bulger. I do wonder when its time to say 'enough is enough'. If its costing the country around 250K GBP EACH time as is being reported, should it not be case of, sorry if you screw up again and end up in jail again, your on your own? or is it right to keep helping him out with new IDs when he doesnt seem capable of helping himself ? Cal x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyHeart Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 No its not right. Why the hell should he get 'protection?' Throw him to the wolves and see what happens. Vile scumbag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JK2510 Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Bloody horrifying really...can people be rehabilitated....I'm not so sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritChickx Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 I don't think it should be allowed he should have to face the world as himself and deal with the consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 It always bothers me that the country has limitless funds to protect the guilty, yet if someone is being stalked or who is threatened by a partner or something, there is nothing can be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calNgary Posted July 5, 2013 Author Share Posted July 5, 2013 His last 'offence' i believe was being caught with child porn including pics/ vids of toddlers being raped.. so i believe rehabilitation just doesnt work for some, he would have had a good few years of it under his belt.. I can understand why Jamies parents are horrified he is being released again. Cal x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyHeart Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 God it doesnt bear thinking about does it. i think you lose your right to 'human rights' when you dehumanise yourself by commiting unthinkable acts and murders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JK2510 Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 I remember watching a programme on bbc2 I think and they were interviewing a pedo who admitted that the thoughts are always in his mind and admitted to be sick in the head...he committed suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatsitallabout Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Cant believe that they are given him another identity, they don't deserve to live in hiding, the best punishment for them would be everyone to know who they are & where they are. It makes my blood boil the money wasted on these scumbags. what they did to that poor little boy & his family breaks my heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpo1971 Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 In the main, rehabilitation doesn't work for serial offenders. I don't see the benefit of people like Venables being allowed to continue in society. As for being released, whoever thinks that is a good idea is an idiot. If you think he is OK to let out, let him look after your kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongrel Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 If a dog maims or kills a human , acting instinctively , it is put down , to stop it reoccurring , those two should have been put down as instinct could have not been a defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacaranda Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 I think whats quite scary is,if none of us know who he is,what if one of our daughters hitched up with him?What if he became good mates with your son???Where's our protection?Ridiculous to protect criminals but not protect the innocent!Some people are beyond any help imho and should either be locked up for life or bring back the death sentence! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongrel Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 I think whats quite scary is,if none of us know who he is,what if one of our daughters hitched up with him?What if he became good mates with your son???Where's our protection?Ridiculous to protect criminals but not protect the innocent!Some people are beyond any help imho and should either be locked up for life or bring back the death sentence! He won't do nothing as the saying goes you can run but you can't hide , he will Make a mistake and then he'll be lucky the authorities catch him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest51810 Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 I think he'll do something else to screw it up again. Dont think he should be allowed out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 If a dog maims or kills a human , acting instinctively , it is put down , to stop it reoccurring , those two should have been put down as instinct could have not been a defense Not been in the UK myself for a while but I don't think we make a habit of executing children do we?. I know their crimes are unspeakable, but two wrongs and all that stuff etc.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongrel Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Not been in the UK myself for a while but I don't think we make a habit of executing children do we?. I know their crimes are unspeakable, but two wrongs and all that stuff etc.... So the thing is an adult and has an habit for child porn , get him a job babysitting for your kids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacaranda Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Not been in the UK myself for a while but I don't think we make a habit of executing children do we?. I know their crimes are unspeakable, but two wrongs and all that stuff etc.... And what would you do EW if your daughter married the guy without knowing who is really is?Still so accepting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongrel Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 And what would you do EW if your daughter married the guy without knowing who is really is?Still so accepting? She wouldn't be allowed to M Authorities are bound to notify on things like that so it is a sentence of some sense but my thought is this , gays in the past were electro shocked , brain washed and thinking now that they can be changed sexually an illness ? The Mh peeps say rightly its bollox , yet this psychopathic paedophile can be changed , ahem so one is I There opinion. Natural and the other a sickness ,bit of hypocracy I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxlornaxx Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 But someone could end up in prison if they are unable to hold their emotions In towards this young man, ruining another life/family..we have to trust that probation/social services will keep close contact with him to ensure he doesn't physically harm anyone else...it's sad though, i thought he may have come out and made a go of his life but their may just always be badness in him..but we can't take the law into our own hands every time we do not agree with sentencing and that is what may happen if his identity isn't hidden... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tayloal Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 He should have been locked up and had the key thrown away at the first chance. Ok he was young so they give him a second chance and he even tries to blow his own cover, then the child porn ! Enough is enough I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jac2011 Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 My fear is that he goes out, has a one night stand (or more) and fathers a child. Firstly, is it fair to allow him to be a father but secondly how unfair to the child, if he ever finds out who his father is? How can you live with that? I work alongside probation and the ministry of justice and although he will be watched over, its not a daily thing, more likely to be a minimum of weekly and for an hour a week? Surely he had people monitoring him last time and he obviously was still up to his tricks... Sadly, I don't know the answer with this guy but my fears lie with the public who unknowingly will befriend him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Ropey HOFF Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 So this will be the Fourth time he has been given a new identity to protect him since he was charged with murdering Jamie Bulger. I do wonder when its time to say 'enough is enough'. If its costing the country around 250K GBP EACH time as is being reported, should it not be case of, sorry if you screw up again and end up in jail again, your on your own? or is it right to keep helping him out with new IDs when he doesnt seem capable of helping himself ? Cal x We have a bottomless pit of money to spend, so why shouldn't we spend it on him, he will have been fully rehabilitated in our great prisons, I know I'm an expert. :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisher1 Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Sickening though their actions were, Roberts and Venables were so young at the outset I think it was right to try to rehabilitate and give them another chance. BUT Venables has had his second chance and his actions suggest that he is neither safe nor rehabilitated. I'm not in favour of lynch mobs, but I do think Jon Venables has had his second chance now - he should be moved out of prison and left with the scanty protection of his changed appearance. If he gets found out - so be it. I seem to remember that the only reason he was caught the last time was his eagerness to run to the authorities when he thought his cover was blown. Difficult difficult difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisher1 Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 PS Mongrel, I found your reference to gay people in the same thread as child murderers inappropriate and offensive. Venables and Thompson had pretty awful home lives and it was thought at the time this may have contributed to their crimes - so as they were so young they were given a chance. This approach had worked before with Mary Bell don't forget This has nothing to do with the origins of homosexuality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zk2102 Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 He won't do nothing as the saying goes you can run but you can't hide , he willMake a mistake and then he'll be lucky the authorities catch him For what its worth, I think your absolutely right. I dont think the gob sh**e will be able to keep his mouth shut, and people know what he looks like. If he's really lucky the authorities will get him, but Ive a feeling it wont be before he takes an utter pasting because Im sure there will be many making it their utmost priority to get their hands on his neck. I, with all my heart hope so, and that make it as long drawn out and painful as possible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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