Bobj Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 All I can say is, WOW!!! Almost 8,000 NHS hospital managers and consultants were paid six-figure salaries last year while nurses were “run ragged” because of dangerously low staffing levels. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/10009054/The-8000-NHS-staff-on-six-figure-salaries.html Cheers, Bobj. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritChickx Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Oh yes....our matron appears to do **** all....and i'm sure she gets paid a nice amount.... she can't even go near a patient she runs the other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 My sister is a nurse, she earns GBP40k for a 4 day week, gets eight weeks leave per year and has gold plated pension that private sector employees an only dream off. They don't have it so bad, she has the good grace to acknowledge she has a great deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritChickx Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 thats good rupert, don't know anyone on that wage in our ward lol unless they're a manager or senior sister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rose Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Which hospital r u at Britchickx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritChickx Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Well i'm not gonna say don't want people going and telling someone i'm bitching about them lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 My sister is a nurse, she earns GBP40k for a 4 day week, gets eight weeks leave per year and has gold plated pension that private sector employees an only dream off. They don't have it so bad, she has the good grace to acknowledge she has a great deal. I'll bet that's 12 hour shifts and the figure stated is including weekend/ night duty penalties and if not your sister will be in a managerial or specialist role which is still very hard work and deserving of this figure. Also a nurse would only be achieving this salary after achieving many years of service, higher level education, study and be responsible for a lot of educational and training activities. There really is nothing Gold Plated about a Pubic Sector Pension in the UK. Lets be realistic now !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flathead Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 I'll bet that's 12 hour shifts and the figure stated is including weekend/ night duty penalties and if not your sister will be in a managerial or specialist role which is still very hard work and deserving of this figure. Also a nurse would only be achieving this salary after achieving many years of service, higher level education, study and be responsible for a lot of educational and training activities. There really is nothing Gold Plated about a Pubic Sector Pension in the UK. Lets be realistic now !! I was on that sort of figure for a 9-5 community clinical role. .....and my NHS pension is far better than most people are going to get out of their super....it is up rated every year and I got it at age 55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 I was on that sort of figure for a 9-5 community clinical role. .....and my NHS pension is far better than most people are going to get out of their super....it is up rated every year and I got it at age 55 Lucky you. Do you find the wages comparable here for similar roles ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flathead Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Lucky you. Do you find the wages comparable here for similar roles ?? Similar.....but I don't do the same role here....I work on a sessional basis for a number of Universities. I do about 3 months work a year.....don't need to do any more thanks to my NHS pension Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perthbum Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 My sister is a nurse, she earns GBP40k for a 4 day week, gets eight weeks leave per year and has gold plated pension that private sector employees an only dream off. They don't have it so bad, she has the good grace to acknowledge she has a great deal. Really.....my sister gets 20k gets 3 weeks holiday and has a pension that you have to work 40 years to get....funny how people are treated different hey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flathead Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Really.....my sister gets 20k gets 3 weeks holiday and has a pension that you have to work 40 years to get....funny how people are treated different hey. Not in the NHS she doesn't....no one only has 3 weeks holiday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritChickx Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 is she a newly qualified pb? newly qualified nurses start off at 21k. Don't know about the holidays though. I have to acquire mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest51810 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Really.....my sister gets 20k gets 3 weeks holiday and has a pension that you have to work 40 years to get....funny how people are treated different hey. Think you've got that wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritChickx Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Maybe his sister works part time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peach Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Really.....my sister gets 20k gets 3 weeks holiday and has a pension that you have to work 40 years to get....funny how people are treated different hey. Your sister has it easy. My sister lived for three months in a brown paper bag in a septic tank. She used to have to get up at six o'clock in the morning, clean the bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work for the NHS fourteen hours a day week in-week out, pay the hospital for the privilege and has no pension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritChickx Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 was that 40 years ago peach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 When I left the NHS in 2006 I was on a good salary, (G grade/band 7) my pension had started to double up due to length of service (I left with the equivalent of 28 years), I had Mental Health officer status meaning I could retire at 55 - I didn't think my wage was bad at all .. also got enhancements for unsociable hours and weekends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Que Sera Sera Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 The NHS is heavily unionised there is no way anyone would have only 3 weeks holiday that is against the law part time or not. When I left the UK it was 4.8 weeks the very minimum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest51810 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 I was sure I got more than PB said when i worked part time and mines was just with a crappy company, not the nhs so i would of thought their holidays would of been decent. I dont work for them though so dunno! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 I don't work in healthcare but I do earn a 6 figure salary and I see no reason why managers in the NHS who do a bloody important job should earn any less than I do. If you are going to attract high calibre applicants you have to pay the 'market rate' otherwise they will go elsewhere. Surely we want the best people running our public services not the people who would fail in the 'real world'? If you want them you have to pay for them. Of course they then should be subject to the same performance demands as well. Maybe the issue is that other employees in the NHS should get paid more but salary isn't everything (at whatever grade) and there are perks of being a public service employee (I am basing this on being a teacher in the UK and a public servant in Australia), I have gone back to the higher salary for now but it certainly suited me to be in the public sector when me son was younger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 I don't work in healthcare but I do earn a 6 figure salary and I see no reason why managers in the NHS who do a bloody important job should earn any less than I do. If you are going to attract high calibre applicants you have to pay the 'market rate' otherwise they will go elsewhere. Surely we want the best people running our public services not the people who would fail in the 'real world'? If you want them you have to pay for them. Of course they then should be subject to the same performance demands as well. Maybe the issue is that other employees in the NHS should get paid more but salary isn't everything (at whatever grade) and there are perks of being a public service employee (I am basing this on being a teacher in the UK and a public servant in Australia), I have gone back to the higher salary for now but it certainly suited me to be in the public sector when me son was younger. I can't remember many perks in the day to day job Jules, shift work is a bummer but a necessity when the kids were younger, and leaving them on xmas morning after pressie opening as I was on the afternoon shift was a bit of a sacrifice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxlornaxx Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Im a nurse and i am quite happy with my salary, salary figures are misleading for nurses, I earned £30,000 last year and I'm only 18 months qualified, I did do overtime, nights and weekends etc (my choice) but nothing back breaking, I don't know anyone outside the nhs who gets the enhancements, holidays or life insurance I do..I got offered a band 6 job recently which I didn't take coz I'm moving to oz but that would have been more money again and the nhs has also put me through 2 university courses in my short time there...there is heaps of opportunities in the nhs if your not sat in a corner moaning about how awful ur job is..yes I work hard and the ward can be a nightmare sometimes the way we are treated but we are not the poor hard done by angels some people try to make out..we chose to do it knowing the good and bad... I look at some people I know and even my husband and think how lucky I am to have the job I do wth the pay/perks I get...I even get to choose my annual leave, I took 4 weeks in one go last year so I could tour america and spread the other weeks out...my husband gets told when his days off are and their not many..I hate listening to nurses moaning, if you don't like it then leave. I don't care what the consultants get, I do my job and enjoy it, I'm interested in patients not peering in other people's pay packets, thanks x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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xxlornaxx Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 I think your right but its when these people aren't earning their salary and letting everyone down with very poor performance that annoys people... I don't work in healthcare but I do earn a 6 figure salary and I see no reason why managers in the NHS who do a bloody important job should earn any less than I do. If you are going to attract high calibre applicants you have to pay the 'market rate' otherwise they will go elsewhere. Surely we want the best people running our public services not the people who would fail in the 'real world'? If you want them you have to pay for them. Of course they then should be subject to the same performance demands as well. Maybe the issue is that other employees in the NHS should get paid more but salary isn't everything (at whatever grade) and there are perks of being a public service employee (I am basing this on being a teacher in the UK and a public servant in Australia), I have gone back to the higher salary for now but it certainly suited me to be in the public sector when me son was younger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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