Work is getting harder to find

[VERYSTORMY]

Isn't parkes where they filmed the dish? Looked OK in the film.

 

Yep.It is a VERY small town and i think my friends issue / concern is that his wife is undergoing treatment for cancer and if they have suitable facilities.

 

Also, the issue with relocating to a mining town is that if you lose your job, you have nowhere else to go. It means another move. I have done some work there and it is "ok"

[Rugby Lad]

Isn't parkes where they filmed the dish? Looked OK in the film.

 

Parkes is where the dish was - in fact it still is. Not a bad day out if you live near there - my girls (6,4 and 2 at the time) absolutely loved it. But the film was made in Forbes (an hour and a half or so south down the Newell Highway) as it's smaller and so could be made to look like Parkes in 1969 easier than Parkes itself could!!

 

A nice enough town, pretty affluent but if you had a wife requiring medical treatment it wouldn't be first choice. A lot of travelling to Orange, I think it would get you down.

[Mongrel]

Work Choices will be back, they will just give it another name.

 

Abbott will look after his buddies , read a rumor about lowering the salary figures for temp visas , so they can bring in workers to help his business buddies

[Red Rose]

I've found it a struggle. I have had interviews with two companies, for sales roles not Human Resources roles, and then have been turned down after 4 interviews (with each company) for not having sales experience. It feels a bit disappointing to have long drives to interviews, only to be turned down for something they knew from the start. I did feel with both roles that they should have given more thought to what they actually wanted before interviewing me and felt a bit frustrated to have 4 interviews with both companies (and to get good feedback at each of the first 3 stages), and to be turned down right at the end for not having sales experience. Maybe that was a convenient excuse and I did something wrong in the final interviews, but it did make me sigh.

 

I have been turned down for many HR roles because I had too much experience and others because I did not have WA or mining experience. There are a lot of HR people looking for jobs at the moment and I understand from some recruitment agencies that HR candidates from places such as Sydney are struggling as well because WA employers want WA experience before everything else. It's a bit of a vicious circle as if you don't have WA experience, they won't give you a job and if nobody will give you a job, you can't get WA experience.

 

If my husband had not got a job I would be very concerned by now. However, after over 70 applications since mid-January it is very clear that there is some difficulty in the local jobs market in my area (despite the large number of roles being advertised on seek.com). In the UK I got an interview for 90% of the roles I applied for and in the last 8 years had got every role I interviewed for, so it has been a bit of a shock. I'm not too upset though as I am getting to enjoy the lovely weather we have been having. I'd be well and truly upset if it had done nothing but rain since I got here :biggrin:

 

Have you started swotting up on all the national and state specific employment laws yet, because they're very complicated and presumably you will need to be able to advise on these in your capacity as an HR Adviser?

[Paul1Perth]

Ah,well actually one doesn't get paid Job Seeker's as a right in UK after time out of the country straight away. If I went there on an Aussie passport and signed on how long do you think I would be required to wait for payment?

I do agree though migrants should get no payments for the first years for any benefit.

As for entitlement well the WH brigade may well be peeed to learn their forebearers could get the dole in OZ back in the 70s and early 80s. Do OZ on the dole and a bit of labouring graft on the side. Whatever happened to the care free times of olde?

 

We got jobseekers allowance, free childcare, rent assistance when we came in 92. Didn't know we could get it until someone asked if we had been to centrelink. Got it for a couple of weeks and then my wife got a job. Looking back we could have had a long holiday and neither of us worried about work. Wasn't what we came here for though. The free childcare was a really big help. Didn't know if I was going to be called in for an interview any time and my wife was working shiftwork.

 

Have to say what a pleasant surprise it was going into the Centrelink office in Freo. I had been used to signing on in Clay Cross, standing in line and then queuing at a counter for my dole money. Just like the scene from The Full Monty. We walked in the office in Freo, TV on the wall, magazines on table, comfy chair to sit in. Time came for the interview and guy gets us in the office , tells us what forms we could fill in, what we were due to. Came out and went straight to the pub to celebrate. Couldn't believe what help we were going to get.:cool:

[Incata]

Have you started swotting up on all the national and state specific employment laws yet, because they're very complicated and presumably you will need to be able to advise on these in your capacity as an HR Adviser?

 

Yes I have swotted up on them all but my problem is that I am an in-house recruitment specialist, and have not done an HR generalist role in about 14 years, so would only be considered for Recruiter/Recruitment Manager/Project Manager roles. I was at Head of Recruitment level in the UK but clearly am not going to walk into a role like that, so have been applying for the more junior roles (as there is a lack of the more senior roles at the moment). I have been told I am too senior for Recruiter/Recruitment Manager roles and there is a lack of HR Project Manager roles. The two PM roles I have seen advertised both got put on hold after being advertised for a couple of days.

 

I've considered going the recruitment agency route but they aren't interested in me as I don't have a sales background. I am in the early stages of considering setting up my own business, so that may come to something (and if it doesn't work, at least I will have WA experience!!!)

[Paul1Perth]

Yes I have swotted up on them all but my problem is that I am an in-house recruitment specialist, and have not done an HR generalist role in about 14 years, so would only be considered for Recruiter/Recruitment Manager/Project Manager roles. I was at Head of Recruitment level in the UK but clearly am not going to walk into a role like that, so have been applying for the more junior roles (as there is a lack of the more senior roles at the moment). I have been told I am too senior for Recruiter/Recruitment Manager roles and there is a lack of HR Project Manager roles. The two PM roles I have seen advertised both got put on hold after being advertised for a couple of days.

 

I've considered going the recruitment agency route but they aren't interested in me as I don't have a sales background. I am in the early stages of considering setting up my own business, so that may come to something (and if it doesn't work, at least I will have WA experience!!!)

 

If you are applying for more junior roles I hope you've dumbed down your resume to match what you are applying for. I used to re-do my resume and write a covering letter for each application to match the job I was applying for.

 

I was project managing in the UK in defence IT, was out of work 5 months when we got here in 92 and my first role was filling in for someone on long service leave in the biophysics dept, at Charlie Gairdners Hospital. Vague IT and electronics design work that I hadn't done much of since Uni. Got me a start though and I have never been out of work since.

[VERYSTORMY]

Another blow. Ford to cease Oz production

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22634653

[wolvesaussie]

thats terrible news for geelong. not sure if its still the case but they used to be heavily depending on ford

[Guest chris955]

I grew up in Geelong and yes it was and is very dependant on Ford, also Shell and they are also closing.

[Guest chris955]

Its interesting as Ford obviously are a high profile victim of the current economic situation but this seems to have gone under the radar even though more people will potentially lose their jobs.

http://www.smh.com.au/business/2500-jobs-lost-as-cleaner-goes-bust-20130523-2k2vf.html

[wolvesaussie]

says in the article its the high dollars fault. whats going to happen to v8 racing without the falcon its like the spl without rangers

[Guest chris955]

I have no real interest in the taxi racing but I think they have to be based on a locally built car so it might just be Commodes in the future, or at least until Holden disappear.

 

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says in the article its the high dollars fault. whats going to happen to v8 racing without the falcon its like the spl without rangers

[Paul1Perth]

says in the article its the high dollars fault. whats going to happen to v8 racing without the falcon its like the spl without rangers

 

That's what they are blaming but notice they are not closing the factory till 2016. By that time the dollar might be worth 50c American. What will they blame then? It's poor management decisions over the years that's led to the downfall. I did a robotics course in 1979 and we covered things like building lots of different designs of car on one production line, flexible manufacturing, just in time manufacturing, so you didn't have to hold much stock, the ability to change models and the production line very quickly to suit what people wanted.

 

What did ford do (and Holden too) carried on making cars for the aussie market which a blind man could see was changing before their eyes. They carried on making V8 and V6 saloons which were already looking dated. The market demand was for 4 wheel drives and SUV's but nice looking ones, that were changing their body styling subtly every year. It's not even price that's the deciding factor, otherwise I wouldn't be seeing so many BMW, Merc's and Porsche 4 wheel drives around.

 

No their demise is down to p*** poor management and decision making over the last 10 years or so. They should have had a chat with the guys on the production line as to what they thought they should be making rather than some American making the decisions.

[newjez]

But why don't the Japanese make cars in Oz like they do in the UK?

[Skani]

But why don't the Japanese make cars in Oz like they do in the UK?

 

Nissan and Toyota have made cars in Oz. Nissan closed its Oz factory several years ago...I think Toyota may still be making one or two models here? Not positive though.

 

Economies of scale don't add up here. There's not a large domestic market and the cost of shipping to the larger markets is too great. Whereas the UK has a much larger market on its doorstep.

[newjez]

Australia has a pretty large market on it's door step. But they need to make quality. Maybe they could buy a UK marque and re engineer it. Say Triumph?

 

Nissan and Toyota have made cars in Oz. Nissan closed its Oz factory several years ago...I think Toyota may still be making one or two models here? Not positive though.

 

Economies of scale don't add up here. There's not a large domestic market and the cost of shipping to the larger markets is too great. Whereas the UK has a much larger market on its doorstep.

[Paul1Perth]

But why don't the Japanese make cars in Oz like they do in the UK?

 

Where's Toyota from? I heard on the radio this morning that even the Japanese have factories in India turning out their cars as their own labour rates are too expensive. Globalisation was supposed to be a good thing wasn't it?

[Guest chris955]

Australia has a pretty large market on it's door step. But they need to make quality. Maybe they could buy a UK marque and re engineer it. Say Triumph?

 

The Triumph car brand is owned by BMW and there is talk of relaunching it. It costs a huge amount of money to build cars especially in commercial quantities. I agree the problem isnt having a market as exporting is easy it is about costs, when it costs Ford for example twice as much to build a car in Australia than it does in Europe and four times more than Asia it just doesnt make sense.

[Guest chris955]

There are BMWs made in China, Fords made in numerous countries, Honda, BMW, Nissan, Ford, GM and others made in the UK. Globalisation is good, pricing yourself out of the market is not.

 

Where's Toyota from? I heard on the radio this morning that even the Japanese have factories in India turning out their cars as their own labour rates are too expensive. Globalisation was supposed to be a good thing wasn't it?

[Paul1Perth]

The Triumph car brand is owned by BMW and there is talk of relaunching it. It costs a huge amount of money to build cars especially in commercial quantities. I agree the problem isnt having a market as exporting is easy it is about costs, when it costs Ford for example twice as much to build a car in Australia than it does in Europe and four times more than Asia it just doesnt make sense.

 

So that still makes Europe twice as much to build a car than Asia, so not much sense for them to be built there either.

[Guest chris955]

So that still makes Europe twice as much to build a car than Asia, so not much sense for them to be built there either.

 

It depends very much on the models being built, that is why certain factories build certain models. It is still economically viable. The problem with Australian car manufacturing is the big car obsession and the fact that they arent particularly efficient.

[Skani]

Where's Toyota from? I heard on the radio this morning that even the Japanese have factories in India turning out their cars as their own labour rates are too expensive. Globalisation was supposed to be a good thing wasn't it?

 

Toyota is a Japanese firm. But they make their cars all over the world.

Globalisation is a good thing for those with power - who can manufacture at the cheapest possible price, wherever that be in the world...and pocket the profits.:wink:

[Skani]

Australia has a pretty large market on it's door step.

 

Like....where?

[Guest chris955]

Like....where?

 

​The whole of Asia, China, India etc etc.