Sandgroper

Precisely why can't the bitter ones just take a breath and look at why after all the time, money, effort and stress (i won't include research as that obviously seems to be lacking) just admit you know what it's me I don't fit in I need to go back to my safe bubble I'm not ready to be away from it, I need familiarity. We always planned on moving to Perth as everything about it suited our needs as a family, the climate the outdoor lifestyle and beaches, but because we had always said we won't move unless one of us secures a good job first which after trying couldn't seem to do in Perth we looked elsewhere and ended up moving to Melbourne just so we had a job waiting we, hated it! Hated everything about it, the 4 seasons in one day the horrendous commute to the city, the level of crime, the cost of decent housing in a decent suburb. So when a close family member fell terminally that was the excuse we needed to head home with our tails between our legs feeling sorry for ourselves and blaming everything we felt on Melbourne. However once back in the UK family member passed away we realised It wasn't Melbourne's fault at all, we'd read about the 4 seasons in one day, read about the commutes if you wanted to live somewhere nice away from the city, knew it was a bloody big city so there was always going to be crime it was our fault we'd messed up it was no good blaming Melbourne which is what we did when ever anyone asked us why we had moved back. So when I hear some of the excuses and whinges on here the flies, the heat, blah blah blah I just PMSL, and often have to call BS, so when some claims to have been experienced bush fires in one state and floods in another which were both extreme weather events in history I'm a little skeptical to say the least, and the convenient allergies well. Why do people get so hung up about being either a successful migrant or not it makes me laugh, if you start a business it's either a success or failure, if you want to be a rock star you succeed or fail, move across the other side of the world to live your move ends up as either a successful or not unless of course you'd never planned on it being forever.

Thank you for stating your own judgement. I follow this forum as i, like others find it helpful and encouraging. Not for sustaining targeted attacks. I have shared some of my experiences to support various ponts of view. Got to admit you are beginning to come across a little bitter at times though, don’t worry not everyone becomes a successful migrant many go home when it doesn’t work out for them just hold yourselves accountable not the location it’ll make the whole experience of moving back easier in the long run.

A break in the weather certainly brings them out, fair play to em I say might not get out again for a while.

Ice will be the least of your worries best you leave about 10.30 make sure you have your wits about you it’s an English pub so they’ll be a bit of scrapping outside at closing time.

You stay safe on the way to the pub could be icy under foot.

No need to take them off get some adapters and just change them to oz ones over time once you are here.

Have to agree I like the speed at which the system works here I've had a doctors appointment in the morning been referred for an ultrasound and had it the same day no chance of that ever happening on the NHS ever. I was given a physio appointment in 16 weeks time in the UK totally unacceptable what was the point I ended up going private and as mention earlier I got nothing back......all those years paying taxes to be forced to go private! The Aus system just seems to work better IMO, I need an operation on my knee and my GP has said we can either go public where there would be around a 2-3 month wait which is totally acceptable as it isn't an emergency the actual wait time stated by WA health is 6 months so they are well under, or I can go private which I am planning on doing for a few reasons I can choose the surgeon, the hospital and the date and it is all covered by my health insurance apart from a gap of about $3-400 for the anesthetist and his technician. I wanted to make sure I had the correct diagnosis on my knee so asked my Dr for a referral to a different consultant which he did no problem, the I visited the consultant who sent me upstairs in the same building for some xrays (bulk billed) and confirmed the diagnosis cost for the referral was $130 of which I got around $40 back from memory all happened within days, that would have took ages on the NHS that's even if I could get to see a second consultant.

Bit of welcome rain yesterday but not a huge amount back to normal now beaut few days ahead, gotta love the Perth climate

What a horrible winter you seem to be having, another cold blast on the way stay safe everyone. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/uk-weather-latest-updates-snow-ice-met-office-warnings-forecast-roads-trains-flights-a8256831.html

United Nations so difficult to dispute the results really.

I can't wait for some of the impending comments

The weather is variable in England but not significantly I doubt you would ever get a 10c difference other than the extreme South of England compared to the extreme North of England and then maybe occasionally not regularly. What can vary a lot is rainfall with Western England getting considerably more rain than Eastern England for instance Hereford near to Bristolman is gets a lot of rain compared to Cambridge where I believe Quoll lives 734 mm compared to 557 mm. It's definitely something anyone considering moving to the UK should research beforehand.

I know they were both terrible winters, along with the horrendous never ending summer rain of 2012. I just find it strange someone who has only been in the UK a few years can claim 'Yes but I'm talking about prolonged periods of snow and ice, we just don't see it now.' Garbage! When it clearly does still happen it may be only 1 or 2 winters in 10 but it still does occur, the UK has never had prolonged periods of snow and ice consistently every winter.

That explains why it is so cheap Middlesbrough is one of the most undesirable places to live in the UK.

Rubbish the winter of 2010/11 was horrendous, you might not have seen it but it was one of those prolonged periods of snow and ice you claim never happen anymore There you go just so you can't deny it ever happened https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/interesting/dec2010

Best of luck with the process a lot more hoops to go through than when we applied but so worth it.

You won't receive an answer to that as I believe it is not true.

Of course I don't take it seriously it's total crap, he does though bugs the shite out of him when ever any thing remotely nice is said about Australia that's why I knew he would be along soon enough and I find it hilarious

If I had traveled half way around the world the last thing I would want to see is an english style pub!! just sayin!

I knew you wouldn't be able to resist, it's a 2018 survey and the results are in get over it

Well I guess we are fairly recent migrants (the last 5 years) and our move has resulted in a better salary, bigger not necessarily better housing, brighter prospects and a better education for the kids IMO a better all round family lifestyle so yes it was worth all the pain and effort for us. And as fairly recent migrants we can absolutely see why families want to migrate.

I think it's completely normal to change your mind a lot in the early stages you haven't even completed an EOI yet, even at the later stages of the process most people have doubts. We made the move with 3 kids in that age range trust me they will be the least of the stress for you,kids that age are very adaptable, i'd say get the ball rolling sooner rather than later it is easier the younger they are, my 3 are doing really well and the out of school activities available to them is far greater than in the UK, my eldest has just started high school on a GAT stream which would not have been available to her in the UK. When we first visited the kids primary school to enquire about enrollment the principal gave us a guided tour visiting each of the year groups our kids would be going into, that would have never have happened in the UK! Sport isn't rammed down there throats they do more here in school such as every morning as soon as the bell goes they go on to the school oval for some form of exercise either a couple of laps or some races. Apart from being a great swimmer my eldest isn't sporty at all I wouldn't worry about that at all. We had decent jobs and that was always a concern leaving them, however we are both in similar jobs now just better paid. You mention holidays we were the same an all inclusive to the med once a year costing a fortune and the odd weekend trip to Europe for the wife and I when the grandparents had the kids. Because of the location we chose we no longer need beach holidays we live it everyday, we love camping so get away doing that as often as we can, we have our first trip booked outside Australia for latter in the year 12 days in Japan visiting 3 different cities, we would never have been able to do a trip like that from the UK. Just up to you and hubby to decide if it's right for you, we were the same but believe we made the correct choice it hasn't been plane sailing by any means but so glad we made the right decision(for us)

I think because so many Brits do move to Perth and make a successful move the ones that are not successful feel a sense of failure in themselves and just have to blame anything but themselves for it not working out! You can tell the bitterness in them from there posts on here and then others that have had unsuccessful moves to elsewhere in Australia just jump on the bandwagon as they have that sense of failure deep down and it's easier to do a bit of Perth bashing than look at themselves and why it didn't all work out for them. As to why so many move here....because it's a great place to live and work and offers a fantastic lifestyle.

can tell you are an aussie!

Perfect temps for Perth a very dry heat so not at all stifling, great for a Saturday night beach camp and fishing.