ptlabs Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Hi all, Victoria released their SMP today (1 Nov 2010), one day before they formally enter caretaker mode for the state election. Some MODL/CSL IT occupations/specialisations have been preserved in the new SMP, so that would be good news for people holding 2231-79 MODL/CSL type assessment letters. More here: Eligibility Lists - Live in Victoria and Ptlabs Consulting - Articles on Australian Immigration Cheers Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest triumph01 Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Thanks for the info. Well they didn't provide any information regarding existing SS holders, that how they will cater them? Regards, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JK2510 Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Hi, has anything been confirmed about whether the cat 2 processing will start? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clickettuk Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Are the "State Sponsosrship Eligibility Lists" the same as "State Migration Plan"? I can't see any mention of a State Migration Plan in the VIC website. Are you sure they have formally announced their SMP??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PasonJayne Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Are the "State Sponsosrship Eligibility Lists" the same as "State Migration Plan"? I can't see any mention of a State Migration Plan in the VIC website. Are you sure they have formally announced their SMP??? From the looks of this i would say things are moving again: State Migration Plan Signed - Live in Victoria 4500 quota i gather this will cover all outstanding applications that fall in to this plan as well as new SS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ebstar Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Are the "State Sponsosrship Eligibility Lists" the same as "State Migration Plan"? I can't see any mention of a State Migration Plan in the VIC website. Are you sure they have formally announced their SMP??? Just spoken to our agent this is the eligibility list and these are likely to be on smp when released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VickyMel Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Thanks Jason that was a great link and what a relief - it really does look as if this is the SMP list. I notice (looking through it again for the 5th+ time) that some of the occupations have lines through them as they have reached their quota on those occupations. Gosh this confusion as to whether it really is the SMP or not is scary!!! Fingers crossed! VickyMel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libbysmum Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Further clarification is also needed, in terms of those with previous state sponsorship who fall into categories of either a) those occupations whose quota has been met, or b) those occupations which have not made it onto the SMP. Where do these people now stand?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest smithys Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Just wanted to say a big congrats to you VickyMel - so pleased for you!!! Let's hope now the other States follow suit and will get their SMP's out there - as mentioned I think Vic wanted to get this done before their elections. Hopefully we may still get all the States releasing now as either it will get VERY confusing not to mention frustrating for priority processing or we may have Vic waiting for other States until DIAC update their processing order. Good luck all xx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dragsterwish Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Thanks Jason that was a great link and what a relief - it really does look as if this is the SMP list. I notice (looking through it again for the 5th+ time) that some of the occupations have lines through them as they have reached their quota on those occupations. Gosh this confusion as to whether it really is the SMP or not is scary!!! Fingers crossed! VickyMel Hi Vicky, those crossed occupations are occupations that have reached their quota sub-allocated by Vic govt. That's how SMPs work. So Vict is not accepting anymore of those application with those skills. Do you know what it means? It means that Vic has already taken into the quota those they have already sponsored for the quota to be reached. Welcome to the new world of SMPs! Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest smithys Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Further clarification is also needed, in terms of those with previous state sponsorship who fall into categories of either a) those occupations whose quota has been met, or b) those occupations which have not made it onto the SMP. Where do these people now stand?? As I see it, those who have ALREADY received Sponsorship in the occupations where the quota had been met are considered in that quota so should be OK. As for scenario B, that is a valid point and really not sure what will happen here. I hope to think provision will be made for these people, but who can tell???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VickyMel Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Hi Vicky, those crossed occupations are occupations that have reached their quota sub-allocated by Vic govt. That's how SMPs work. So Vict is not accepting anymore of those application with those skills. Do you know what it means? It means that Vic has already taken into the quota those they have already sponsored for the quota to be reached. Welcome to the new world of SMPs! Cheers! I think we all expected the quotas to work like this (it was the open endedness that caused many of the problems). As I see it, those who have ALREADY received Sponsorship in the occupations where the quota had been met are considered in that quota so should be OK.As for scenario B, that is a valid point and really not sure what will happen here. I hope to think provision will be made for these people, but who can tell???? Hopefully they (all the states) will be fair to the previous SS applicants who get caught up in this either re the quotas or if the occupation is no longer on the new lists. Lets hope the details start coming out sooner rather than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dragsterwish Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 I think we all expected the quotas to work like this (it was the open endedness that caused many of the problems). Yeah, I agree with you totally. I hope someone would contact Vic to clarify those points raised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gollywobbler Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Thanks Jason that was a great link and what a relief - it really does look as if this is the SMP list. I notice (looking through it again for the 5th+ time) that some of the occupations have lines through them as they have reached their quota on those occupations. Gosh this confusion as to whether it really is the SMP or not is scary!!! Fingers crossed! VickyMel Hi VickyMel It is definitely the SMP List for VIC. That bit is certain. Peter Chiam (ptlabs) never makes silly mistakes and Alan Collett also says that it is the SMP: Go Matilda - Your Gateway to Australia - News However, a huge amount of analysing still needs to be done. I have not read the article by Ptlabs in detail because he focusses on IT skills and I haven't a clue about any of the IT occupations. As yet, I have not had time to read Alan Collett's article either. Cheers Gill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Collett Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 I wonder whether people are expecting too much of what a SMP actually is, and what the process will entail? Unless I'm missing something (always possible!) I see the SMP sponsorship process as being little different to the STNI process that existed up to May of this year: * A list of occupations that can be sponsored by the State or Territory Government (albeit now with a quota). * A process to be undertaken to secure Sponsorship, which is probably going to be somewhat more rigorous than was the case in the past - this is the element of the process where I think most of us are awaiting details from each State and Territory Government. The real difference has most likely gone on behind the scenes - and is most probably now complete - whereby the State and Territory Governments have had to meet DIAC requirements as to research and submission of formal Plans before the Australian Government would agree to sign off on them. Best regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musmanasghar Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Hi All Congratulation to those who fall in VIC SMP ... a couple of hours ago I spoke to my agent ... In reply of my question Q: when SMP holders will get priority from DIAC? 1-after release from individual State. 2- After all states will release there SMP. A: according to my agent, it depend upon individual state, and SMP holders will get priority as soon as there state will release its SMP and its date of effectiveness ... so i m hoping for good change now ... Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlem Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Hi Alan I think most of us are making a big thing of the SMPs as we are state sponsored but currently sitting in cat 4 with nowhere to go. I need to be on Smp or our oz dream is over, and will be for others aswell . I wonder whether people are expecting too much of what a SMP actually is, and what the process will entail? Unless I'm missing something (always possible!) I see the SMP sponsorship process as being little different to the STNI process that existed up to May of this year: * A list of occupations that can be sponsored by the State or Territory Government (albeit now with a quota). * A process to be undertaken to secure Sponsorship, which is probably going to be somewhat more rigorous than was the case in the past - this is the element of the process where I think most of us are awaiting details from each State and Territory Government. The real difference has most likely gone on behind the scenes - and is most probably now complete - whereby the State and Territory Governments have had to meet DIAC requirements as to research and submission of formal Plans before the Australian Government would agree to sign off on them. Best regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lankan1 Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Hi all, Victoria released their SMP today (1 Nov 2010), one day before they formally enter caretaker mode for the state election. Some MODL/CSL IT occupations/specialisations have been preserved in the new SMP, so that would be good news for people holding 2231-79 MODL/CSL type assessment letters. More here: Eligibility Lists - Live in Victoria and Ptlabs Consulting - Articles on Australian Immigration Cheers Peter Hi Thanks so much for the info I'm an IT applicant with the unlucky ANZSCO code 261399. I heard VIC is very tough on giving sponsorships, unlike SA, QLD. Is it true ? Do they look for anything else other than the stuff mentioned in this list? Ideally my ANZSCO is 261399, 2+ years J2EE experience, IELTS overall 7. :frown: Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VickyMel Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Hi Alan I think most of us are making a big thing of the SMPs as we are state sponsored but currently sitting in cat 4 with nowhere to go. I need to be on Smp or our oz dream is over, and will be for others aswell . Yes this is why I was so terrified of taking it as a cert when a few people started querying... just terrified my bubble will be burst again - it means so much. But as Gill says the fact that Peter and Alan (thanks guys) are also taking it a such really sounds good - also the way it is worded on VIC looks right too. VickyMel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VickyMel Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Hi Thanks so much for the info I'm an IT applicant with the unlucky ANZSCO code 261399. I heard VIC is very tough on giving sponsorships, unlike SA, QLD. Is it true ? Do they look for anything else other than the stuff mentioned in this list? Ideally my ANZSCO is 261399, 2+ years J2EE experience, IELTS overall 7. :frown: Thanks VIC can be a bit tough on IT applicants (they don't automatically accept everyone - they were rejecting about a third or so IT applicants) - take a look through this thread - but it is OLD now. http://www.pomsinoz.com/forum/migration-issues/65713-vic-state-sponsered-update.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chintu Welfare Work Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 This is bloody reticules. They want to bring new people in 'AUSTRALIA' from overseas who have got experience and 7 band in IELTS and same time time they want to kick out existing people waiting for their occupation their to be listed on 'SMP'. If existing people had an experience of one or two years and 7 band in each module of IELTS , why they bloody wait for THIS SMP. They would have got thier PR & working in their own field, I mean why they bother for SMP. I am really fed up up with this politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mansukhpatel Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Hi all, Victoria released their SMP today (1 Nov 2010), one day before they formally enter caretaker mode for the state election. Some MODL/CSL IT occupations/specialisations have been preserved in the new SMP, so that would be good news for people holding 2231-79 MODL/CSL type assessment letters. More here: Eligibility Lists - Live in Victoria and Ptlabs Consulting - Articles on Australian Immigration Cheers Peter Hi, This is great news of all those IT specialist. Just abit confused about how do one go about translating my current ASCO code (2231-79) to ANZSCO Would it be 261399 (Software & Applications Programmers NEC) as i think I came across this on DIAC's website for those holding 2231-79 or is it one of the others. Finally things are looking up :biggrin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jamie Smith Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Hi Alan I think most of us are making a big thing of the SMPs as we are state sponsored but currently sitting in cat 4 with nowhere to go. I need to be on Smp or our oz dream is over, and will be for others aswell . No it's not. The Government message now is, unless you are a) critically skilled or b) sponsored by a State (something they will ease into and expand later), then c) you need an employer a sponsor. There are ways and means. The days of "get a visa, go to Australia, get a job" now only apply to those who have the most popular occupations. There is nearly 2 years supply of applicants for the "get a visa, get a job" people. Expect this will be pushed down as the Government sees fit. For everyone else, think 457, ENS and RSMS. 457 has no quota. Remember that, it will be imporant in days to come. Employer sponsored visas are going to be hard for DIAC or the Minister to cut back. ENS and RSMS and 457 give you what you need which is a job on arrival in Australia. What better outcome could you have? The issue now is, almost everyone will need to find an employer who wants you. Many will need help to find that employer. That structure is the new Australian visa system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlem Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Have sent you a pm No it's not. The Government message now is, unless you are a) critically skilled or b) sponsored by a State (something they will ease into and expand later), then c) you need an employer a sponsor. There are ways and means. The days of "get a visa, go to Australia, get a job" now only apply to those who have the most popular occupations. There is nearly 2 years supply of applicants for the "get a visa, get a job" people. Expect this will be pushed down as the Government sees fit. For everyone else, think 457, ENS and RSMS. 457 has no quota. Remember that, it will be imporant in days to come. Employer sponsored visas are going to be hard for DIAC or the Minister to cut back. ENS and RSMS and 457 give you what you need which is a job on arrival in Australia. What better outcome could you have? The issue now is, almost everyone will need to find an employer who wants you. Many will need help to find that employer. That structure is the new Australian visa system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest yorkh Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Hi, This is great news of all those IT specialist. Just abit confused about how do one go about translating my current ASCO code (2231-79) to ANZSCO Would it be 261399 (Software & Applications Programmers NEC) as i think I came across this on DIAC's website for those holding 2231-79 or is it one of the others. Finally things are looking up :biggrin: same question here, as per the eligibility list for IT occupations it requires some preferred specialisations like Java, C++/C#, which is not specified in new ANZSCO code by ACS, then how to judge it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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