Visa Capping - Senate Inquiry

[Guest pinal]

I would hope that would be the case Shane, however the 'leaked' WA SMP list doesn't have hairdressers on it despite there being overwhelming evidence of a state wide demand. The while thing stinks to be honest, it's obvious that there is a goverment vendetta against hairdressers so who knows what they'll come up with next.

I read a post saying that with regards to the capping they might use English language ability along with age criteria to pick and choose which applications they wish to grant visas to.

Hopefully things will becme clearer on July 1st.....

 

 

Hi Paul,

 

Can you please mention link of 'leaked' WA SMP list ?

[jools123]

Hi Paul & Tara

 

I did read about the age thing aswell. My wife and I are both 37 and our daughter is 16. What would they class as to old. I dread to think !!

 

Shane

omg paul and i are both 39 this year are we bordering on old:biglaugh:

are boys are 3 and 4 so this keeps us young and paul thinks he is a teenager most of the time( midlife crisis maybe)

were gonna both be old and grey by the time this gets

sorted:mad:

jools x

[electrical guy]

hi all

is there any body who can guess which applicants are more capped offshore or onshore and why

[Guest rajinmelb]

First these poor souls were cheated by colloges who took all the fees and then went bankcorrupt, Then the employers who demanded money insted of paying money for the exprience and now its turn of the fedral government after promising residency, acepting the application, making them wait for years and then they say NO, Welome to Australia MATE!

[Ozzieland]

First these poor souls were cheated by colloges who took all the fees and then went bankcorrupt, Then the employers who demanded money insted of paying money for the exprience and now its turn of the fedral government after promising residency, acepting the application, making them wait for years and then they say NO, Welome to Australia MATE!

 

Absolutely.... and that these colleges / institutes, students have spent so much to study in only to be fleeced, are Cricos (Government recognized)... So now, who is to blame !!!

[virtual_bajwa]

hi all

is there any body who can guess which applicants are more capped offshore or onshore and why

 

Well,

Nobody can tell this to you. Only and only Minster is the right person. Well may be he himself does not know because in this unpredictable environment even he is out of resources. But I hope whatever he does it would be best for Australia and best for all of us who are waiting for long time.

[yc1ten]

Well,

Nobody can tell this to you. Only and only Minster is the right person. Well may be he himself does not know because in this unpredictable environment even he is out of resources. But I hope whatever he does it would be best for Australia and best for all of us who are waiting for long time.

 

Totally agree with you Virtual. I think it is best for all of us to stop speculating because no matter how hard we try to get the answer on which will be capped, WE WILL NEVER GONNA GET AN ANSWER.......:biglaugh:

[Guest gmac]

George, I read the outline as actually saying that while there has been "A shift in Australia’s skilled migration program from demand-driven to supply-driven", that isn't what the government wants and that the current moves are intended to shift the emphasis back to 'demand driven'. Perhaps I've misunderstood what you were getting at.

 

I am rather confused by this and I am certainly no Johnny come lately economist.

 

From what I do understand though it is perfectly acceptable to talk about the supply and demand driven Australian labour market. I read recently that certain occupations, for example those described as being "niche" occupations ( where employment opportunities will be significantly fewer than say bricklayers ) are no longer appropriate to GSM programme, and are more appropriate to ENS or other methods of migration.

 

It was Skills Australia who have provided independent advice to the Australian Government on the development of a new list of skilled occupations for use in Australia’s General Skilled Migration program.

 

The following fact sheet is informative and gives details of the report "Australian Workforce Futures."

 

You will also be able to access the media statement released on Monday May 17th 2010.

 

Skills Australia

 

Cheers,

 

Gary

[User Name]

Offence already taken.

 

Thanks for cheering up all the Cooks, Chefs and Hairdressers on here mate.

 

I dont know what your issue is really. If you got issues with cooks + chefs + hairdressers being treated unfairly and what not then take it up with DIAC.

 

The guy you quoted spoke whats reality here and put the blame on right spot - the government. If you find that offensive, theres nothing more to say.

[User Name]

hi all

is there any body who can guess which applicants are more capped offshore or onshore and why

 

Best guess is the ones that have too many applicants - hairdressing, cookery (sorry to bring you guys up so many times), accountants.

 

Have a bad feeling IT applicants might get hit hard too who knows. Chrissy wants more meds and engineers.

[John Gilfillan]

I dont know what your issue is really. If you got issues with cooks + chefs + hairdressers being treated unfairly and what not then take it up with DIAC.

 

The guy you quoted spoke whats reality here and put the blame on right spot - the government. If you find that offensive, theres nothing more to say.

 

 

My issue is that my Fiance has studied and practised very hard in her proffession as a Cook and other people on here have a pride in what they have achieved only to have been thwarted by chancers who have seen a gap in the system and now we are having to pay the price for it. We have taken this up with DIAC and also with Chris Evans. I also do find it offensive for your information and I am probably not alone on here. So in summary, I do have issues with thi,s as we have all been made scapegoats for previous government decisions to let any Tom, Dick or Harry walk in to Australia and I will remain defiant until the end.There is also plenty more for me to say.

[Guest Makvlad]

Hey everybody!

I has been silently reading Poms for several months, so feel now it is time to join your warm company First of all thanks to all who help and answer questions (esp. Gill and George Lombard).

Here is what goes on my behalf to all the addresses mentioned above:

 

I would like to comment on the Migration Amendment (Visa Capping) Bill 2010.

When the Australia Minister of Immigration announced his views on the renovation of current GSM program in February I was full with positive expectations. Since being a working Life Scientist I prepared for the best. According to the Minister's example (scientist vs hairdresser) the new Point test should make it faster and easier for me having such a prospective occupation to get a PR and it should mean that my long time waiting will be over soon.

The announced Bill has hardly made my life better. Now I am living miserable days waiting for my application being ceased any time. What if it happens even some years later? That is even much worse. I cannot make any long term plans both career and personal. The migration turned for me (and hundreds more scientist I guess) into lottery. According to the Minister's suggestion I tried to find a job in Australia. But is anybody aware that for a postdoc from non-US and non-EU countries it is almost impossible to do it being offshore? I spent more than two years waiting and several thousands dollars to prepare for working at one of Australia's most promising branch of economy (which is science). Now it seems nobody cares about it.

My brother (IT specialist) and sister-in-law (Medical doctor) who are sponsoring our family are really shocked with the news. And that is not only because they fulheartedly want to reunite with our family and live happy next to their own brother and sister. It is obvious that family sponsored stream of immigration is inseparable of mutual help and support for new Australian immigrants. The second important issue is a physical and material aid.

Living family members close together creates an effective and functional microcommunity helpful to solve different problems. Let me give just a couple of examples. My sponsoring sister-in-law living in Australia planned to shear her children care with my wife who looks after our little daughter. After our arrival the sister-in-law could

start working as medical doctor, but now she has to put her employment aside. The second example is that my sponsoring brother would be eager to renovate his old house but he physically cannot do it himself. So his family just has to wait until we come to Australia suffering for the situation.

Thus, I utterly believe that ceasing application for family sponsorship stream may cause rather negative impact on Australia’s families (read economy), especially of newcomers.

I realize that not being an Australian citizen I cannot do much but many of my close relatives and friends live there. They strongly support my concerns and are ready to protect their happy lives with their families.

[ranjith47]

Best guess is the ones that have too many applicants - hairdressing, cookery (sorry to bring you guys up so many times), accountants.

 

Have a bad feeling IT applicants might get hit hard too who knows. Chrissy wants more meds and engineers.

 

Well. Accounting applicants might go down from July 10 coz of the introd. of the IELTS 7 Min score for being assessed as accountants, which is really fair.!! But, there are a lot of backlogs and a lot of students who still can manage 7 in IELTS so it could well be capped. Minister Evans was also not happy about Accountants in the beginning due to its abuse being made by International Students. Well, For one, " Do an Accounting Course and Get an easy Permanent Residence to Australia " was the way it was advertised back in India. Who would not be tempted to get out of the busy ,crowded lifestyle and start a new life in a better place?!

 

But I cannot simply put the blame on the government alone.! Blame should also be on the Students abusing the system too.!!! - Hope evrything comes out good and everyone wins!!

[Guest yayaga]

Here is a such warm place, sad to say I wrote letter to minister last sunday, but I did not get any reply till now. :sad:

[Guest pinal]

I would hope that would be the case Shane, however the 'leaked' WA SMP list doesn't have hairdressers on it despite there being overwhelming evidence of a state wide demand. The while thing stinks to be honest, it's obvious that there is a goverment vendetta against hairdressers so who knows what they'll come up with next.

I read a post saying that with regards to the capping they might use English language ability along with age criteria to pick and choose which applications they wish to grant visas to.

Hopefully things will becme clearer on July 1st.....

 

 

 

 

Hi Paul / All friends

 

Can you please mention link of 'leaked' WA SMP list ?

 

 

 

 

Could I see List?

[virtual_bajwa]

Here is a such warm place, sad to say I wrote letter to minister last sunday, but I did not get any reply till now. :sad:

You might get it after one month undersigned by Mr. Peter who attended last road show at Sydney..And the reply would not be more than a standard reply.

[electrical guy]

You might get it after one month undersigned by Mr. Peter who attended last road show at Sydney..And the reply would not be more than a standard reply.

hi mr bajwa

as u and i are victim of same situation pre sept applicants and whats ur thinking ,will there any exemption for offshore because they have filed gsm application as already skilled professional not a student :unsure:

[Guest paulandtara]

Hi Pinal,

 

No one has actually seen the list from Poms in Oz yo my knowledge. However Gill (Gollywobbler) has heard from a contact that cooks are on it but hairdressers are not. That's all we know at the moment I'm afraid.

[virtual_bajwa]

hi mr bajwa

as u and i are victim of same situation pre sept applicants and whats ur thinking ,will there any exemption for offshore because they have filed gsm application as already skilled professional not a student :unsure:

Hey Electrical guy,

Do not expect any respite from this Govt. if he would have does this it should have done earlier. So policies of a Govt. can not be changed. From last few changes it has been clearly visible that they are in no mood to spear offshore applicants. So do not expect much from him. Specially I am not doing this. Wait and Watch.

[electrical guy]

i hope for best but if they are doing this with a legal way they have only accuse of limited number of visa to a subclass other measurements like ielts(6) ,occupation demand (modl/sol/ensol),sponsorship and work experience(16yrs) are not giving too much to cancel or capping.in my case there is a another complication that after sponsorship my visa class changed to 136 to 137instead of 176 reasoning that the class 176 was not in phase at the time i had lodged.but now they treating us in according to new rules .isnt double standard for a single one.

[electrical guy]

have anybody knows about subclass137 in detail( approxi no. of visa allotted in one year)

[bungeeman]

My issue is that my Fiance has studied and practised very hard in her proffession as a Cook and other people on here have a pride in what they have achieved only to have been thwarted by chancers who have seen a gap in the system and now we are having to pay the price for it. We have taken this up with DIAC and also with Chris Evans. I also do find it offensive for your information and I am probably not alone on here. So in summary, I do have issues with thi,s as we have all been made scapegoats for previous government decisions to let any Tom, Dick or Harry walk in to Australia and I will remain defiant until the end.There is also plenty more for me to say.

 

John,

 

This may be of interest to you!

 

All Not Lost For Chefs and Cooks Following Changes to Skilled Occupation List | Getting Down under

 

Cheers

 

Ben

[Jeffster]

Made my submission. I will wait to see how this pans out in the Senate then go and see Senator Xenaphon, if it is worth it, his office is across the road from mine.

[Guest keenuz]

im cook and nthing is in our favor for sure and worst part is that i struggled alot in AUS from last 2.5 years and finally im just week away from submitting my 885 subclass visa and i took IELTS exam 6 times to score seven (7) in each section.

Now iam confused that should i file my PR or not . Well all i can say GILL and GEORGE LOMBARD helped me alot so special thanks to them and thanx to everyone on PIO .

for chris evans i must say that he is really helping australia to gain skilled people after ruining 1000s of onshore students life and last good thing i want to hear is chris evans party lost elections. HURRAAAY

[ranjith47]

im cook and nthing is in our favor for sure and worst part is that i struggled alot in AUS from last 2.5 years and finally im just week away from submitting my 885 subclass visa and i took IELTS exam 6 times to score seven (7) in each section.

Now iam confused that should i file my PR or not . Well all i can say GILL and GEORGE LOMBARD helped me alot so special thanks to them and thanx to everyone on PIO .

for chris evans i must say that he is really helping australia to gain skilled people after ruining 1000s of onshore students life and last good thing i want to hear is chris evans party lost elections. HURRAAAY

 

Dont give up hope brother. If you are genuinely interested in working in Australia as a Cook then Go for it.! You will find a way no matter what policies change.... You will find The Way.!