MattC Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Bit of an open ended post and very hypothetical, however I am keen to get other peoples views. Made redundant from the iron ore sector in 2014. Retrained as a learning facilitator and taught in a TAFE and not for profit organisation over the past twelve months, however work in the sector has also dried up. I have now been out of work for 8 weeks. Can't get a job in Perth metro due to having a lack of "Perth metro Experience" or alternatively I am over qualified. Can't get a job in the UK as I am not on British shores. Although the work environment is more positive than here. I am a citizen and utilizing savings to get by, which won't last forever. I have a mortgage and my unit is up for rent. I am quite settled here in WA, but at the same time I can't live on "fresh air". It's all very much a chicken and egg situation. I acknowledge I am very fortunate, but at the same time and to a certain degree "standing still". Anyone else out there that is in a similar situation?!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouse Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 It took me nearly eighteen months to get a decent job when I first moved here so I feel your pain - I remember how depressing it was. I did get there though so if you like it here hang on as long as you can. You only need one opportunity. I would say that Australia and Perth more than anywhere else I've been is all about networking and who you know. While it may feel icky to be constantly chasing people up, meeting for coffee, sending LinkedIn messages etc it really does count for a lot over here. So if you have any contacts, be tenacious and don't hold back. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight7 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 I'd be looking East- leave the West. More jobs on this side and the population is growing fast too. Have a look at the job ads here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BacktoDemocracy Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) Bit of an open ended post and very hypothetical, however I am keen to get other peoples views. Made redundant from the iron ore sector in 2014. Retrained as a learning facilitator and taught in a TAFE and not for profit organisation over the past twelve months, however work in the sector has also dried up. I have now been out of work for 8 weeks. Can't get a job in Perth metro due to having a lack of "Perth metro Experience" or alternatively I am over qualified. Can't get a job in the UK as I am not on British shores. Although the work environment is more positive than here. I am a citizen and utilizing savings to get by, which won't last forever. I have a mortgage and my unit is up for rent. I am quite settled here in WA, but at the same time I can't live on "fresh air". It's all very much a chicken and egg situation. I acknowledge I am very fortunate, but at the same time and to a certain degree "standing still". Anyone else out there that is in a similar situation?!! You have my sympathy, don't know what your area of work is but there is a bit of a upturn in some sectors here but biggest problem seems to be cost of property where the work is, the sotheast is booming but property prices are high and commuting can be a bit of a nightmare altho some are commuting very long distances to hang onto jobs and live in cheaper areas. Lots of specialist job sites here and there seems to be shortages in some areas of work and people on here have got jobs from Aus via Skype interviews, it might be useful to get in touch with specialist recruiters and get a professional CV done that you can use for jobs here once you know what they are looking for. Wouldn't like to advise on what to do re coming back but I have noted quite a few on here commenting how the perth job market is contracting and if that is the case then native Australians will be favoured for any jobs that are going over the heads of any migrants regardless of how qualified. Edited December 7, 2015 by BacktoDemocracy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolman Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 The Midlands region is seeing really strong growth and housing is much more reasonably priced in the area. Included in that region is Worcestershire, Herefordshire, Shropshire, Gloucestershire, Warwickshire etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest30085 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Would you consider a move within Australia (obviously depending on employment), or is it Perth or bust? It may be worth considering, maybe put the feelers out. Although I found Perth to be who you know rather than what you know, and if you don't know anyone then it's a bugger! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 I'd say until you only have 3-6 months of outgoings in savings left - basically when you are hitting your 'rainy day' fund BUT that assumes you are moving somewhere the prospects are better, either because there is more work or because you have contacts. No point spending money relocating to be no better off. Try to find work, any work to eek your savings out as long as possible and it also shows drive and flexibility to a future employer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERYSTORMY Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 I can sympathise. I am in mining and was laid off and spent months out of work. It is hard. All I would say is don't wait until the savings have all gone before acting. Wether that is a move within Australia or back to the UK it will cost $$$. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 It's a question of plugging away hoping for the best. Perth, I have usually found is a tough nut to crack. (not being in the trades) Not so easy to rent out at the moment either. Although a lot will depend on location and a realistic rental price, taking on board present market conditions. Are you able to claim social security, New Start payment? Do you have a spare room to rent out? Are you a Handyman sort of fellow? If so try working for yourself. Still a lot of work it would appear for capable hands on people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessica Berry Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Not sure if you have seen one of my previous postings on how long it takes to find a job.... http://www.pomsinoz.com/forum/jobs-careers/242095-statistics-time-takes-find-job.html If I was advising you in Adelaide, at this time of year (Nov, Dec, Jan are generally the worst times to look for work here) I would say 8 weeks is not long at all and I wouldn't be stressing until after the 6 month stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Who can say? the job market is contracting yet imitation remains outrageously high. Adelaide has issues somewhat unique to that city. Perth is definitely hard. Who can say with confidence outside of their area? The fact remains the best place is where/if you have a network of any sort. Word of mouth jobs always far easier than non existent jobs advertised on line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERYSTORMY Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Not sure if you have seen one of my previous postings on how long it takes to find a job.... http://www.pomsinoz.com/forum/jobs-careers/242095-statistics-time-takes-find-job.html If I was advising you in Adelaide, at this time of year (Nov, Dec, Jan are generally the worst times to look for work here) I would say 8 weeks is not long at all and I wouldn't be stressing until after the 6 month stage. Assuming he can survive 6 months! I am laid off next week and our survival time is down to about 1 month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dxboz Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 You have done well VeryStormy to last this long - I thought your last job was more permanent - obviously not. I have noticed lots more jobs for geos today worldwide - maybe things are on the up for geos? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Assuming he can survive 6 months! I am laid off next week and our survival time is down to about 1 month. Would moving back to the UK help though? That months money would be swallowed up in moving and no benefits in the UK until you are 'habitually resident' and this can take up to 6 months. I presume I wouldn't move anywhere unless the work prospects are much better, unless you have other good reasons to move such as family support in the UK. Not saying that you are thinking about it VS, aimed at the OP I suppose the real question is if you were to end up destitute and homeless which country would you rather be in? Most people when they are down on their luck don't move countries, of course most don't have the option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuffythetugboat Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Given that you may be out of work for a while you'd better claim the Newstart allowance from Centrelink. It would slow down the speed of your bank account emptying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helenodd Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Hi there my OH was made out of work twice in last 18 months in uK once expectedly and the first unexpectedly which was v tricky for him and us. only you know your finances but I'd say also use any contacts and also be confident and have a smile in your voice ( if that makes sense) when talking to recruiters. Don't be afraid to sell yourself and your clear resourcefulness by retraining which shows you can learn and teach others very well, so could learn new skills the areas in UK which are mentioned are indeed apparently in growth and cheaper housepricewise but it'll take a while and capital to relocate and find work if theses are new geographical areas won't it? feel your pain as very stressful but at least you can get out for therapeutic free walks runs etc! There'll be a job around the corner and suddenly you'll wish you'd filled your spare time in a different way....good Luck ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amibovered Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Would moving back to the UK help though? That months money would be swallowed up in moving and no benefits in the UK until you are 'habitually resident' and this can take up to 6 months. I presume I wouldn't move anywhere unless the work prospects are much better, unless you have other good reasons to move such as family support in the UK. Not saying that you are thinking about it VS, aimed at the OP I suppose the real question is if you were to end up destitute and homeless which country would you rather be in? Most people when they are down on their luck don't move countries, of course most don't have the option. You can be habitually resident more or less from the day you arrive, the problem is proving it, a tenancy agreement is good, or utility bills in your name, you can claim housing benefit as soon as you can prove residency and claim non contributory jobseekers allowance (aka the dole) after 3 months although you may have to wait up to 6 weeks for the first payment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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