paul1977 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/perth-suffers-biggest-unemployment-increase-of-any-australian-capital-city/story-fnii5thm-1227299798522 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjez Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/perth-suffers-biggest-unemployment-increase-of-any-australian-capital-city/story-fnii5thm-1227299798522 Can't really be that unexpected can it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellybingobingo Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 I will tell you what people told me ...who were supposed to of been my friends by the way .....of course there's jobs plenty of jobs if ya willing to work hard ! Well clearly there's not . Work hard my bum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifi69 Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Well it may have rocketed but its still the lowest rate equal to Sydney. And people aren't getting jobs because public transport from the suburbs isn't great!! What's that all about. I agree about the transport situation from the burbs, but really if you were determined to get a job that shouldn't really matter. Learn to drive, cycle, walk....jeezo. Maybe that's what people mean when they say the jobs are there, if your willing. I personally think ageism and red tape is a bigger barrier to getting employment in Perth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellybingobingo Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Well it may have rocketed but its still the lowest rate equal to Sydney. And people aren't getting jobs because public transport from the suburbs isn't great!! What's that all about. I agree about the transport situation from the burbs, but really if you were determined to get a job that shouldn't really matter. Learn to drive, cycle, walk....jeezo. Maybe that's what people mean when they say the jobs are there, if your willing. I personally think ageism and red tape is a bigger barrier to getting employment in Perth. it depends what you do though FIFi 69 ....lots of people coming out not just wa . And also if it's for my kind of job for people like me , the jobs are there but it's not for not trying ! I drive aswell . I am willing and was willing . It's ageism everywhere aswell not just perth . Not because ya over the hill because they would rather pay a teenager than me , so it's cost . And for supermarkets , coffe shops ya know the kind of thing I can do ...how many are after those jobs . I must be willing do anything because I clean toilets lol its it's not ageism in engineering ....the saying is the greyer the better lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellybingobingo Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 [ATTACH=CONFIG]29474[/ATTACH] Well at least I'm good for business lol , I have my own little skills in demand going on haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellybingobingo Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 [ATTACH=CONFIG]29475[/ATTACH] Just call me hyacinth pmsl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Perth is at the commencement of a rather major downturn yet many still refuse to acknowledge it. These things take time though to filter down. Those here longer may recall 2003 and the start of the boom and stories of massive staff shortages and pay reaching the sky for the most mundane tasks up North at least. I recall the rapid rise in house prices. Should purchased four or five at the time as would be worth many millions now. As such the biggest boom WA has ever experienced is unfolding before our eyes. It does not happen overnight and will be deflating for a considerable period with the jury out on the severity. The market is bad for jobs. It would appear strong for labouring type work, as can't get a tradie that will perform rather simple tasks without paying a rip off cost for a mornings, if that, work. Besides that I would say tough and getting tougher. There are still too many coming in to try their luck from abroad, further distorting the market. Of course those in work and/or haven't had to go through the recruitment process or search for anything at all to apply for will not be prone to the difficulty of the process. Without a car, the Perth market has long been a difficult proposition anyway. Many jobs that is a basic requirement. Where a family need two cars to enable both sides to access work that can indeed be difficult due to cost. Much better public transport is definitely needed and not just more roads. It will not be forthcoming with the crisis of the WA budget anytime soon. WA has largely not made the most of the biggest boom in our history either through taxing the miners or future investment fund. The coming couple of years look to be a real challenge. Interesting to see how we manage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuffythetugboat Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Official figures do not tell the true story. I know of 5 people who are out of work and, for various reasons, do not show up on the unemployment statistics. Positive thinking and hope that the employment situation will improve eventually will not pay the bills in the meantime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 WA the Australian equal to Greece? Hockey telling the state what they must do to in order to win more money. He equates the German Chancellor Frau Merkel while Barnett the WA leader equates the Greek leader. Little sympathy for WA from the other states. Rather the opposite. Perhaps time to sell the state to China for a few trillion and we all get several million dollars per household to move to East Coast or overseas and cut losses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skani Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Official figures do not tell the true story. I know of 5 people who are out of work and, for various reasons, do not show up on the unemployment statistics. Unemployment statistics in Australia are not based on a "list" of unemployed people. The figures are calculated from a survey of a representative sample of the population which is considered to be statistically significant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERYSTORMY Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Not at all surprised. As some of you may know, until last month i was unemployed for 8 months. My local library, where i trotted off to every day to do job applications is now always packed with others doing the same thing. My wife recently managed to get a part time cleaning job at a local hotel. It pays minimum wage, but they had over 200 applicants. I was rejected by Woolworths for a restock role at my local store - they had over 150 applicants for 1 job, paying $20 an hour for nights. As the article mentions, Atlas are laying off about 500 staff. But that is only the tip of the iceberg of those who will lose their jobs as a result. At any FIFO site, there mine charters aircraft every day to bring staff in and out. So, they now lose their jobs. There are deliveries every day for everything from apples to truck tires. They lose their jobs. The 500, doesnt include contractors, who are in effect permanent staff of a contract company servicing the site with everything from chefs to room cleaners to specialist geological staff. They lose their jobs. The there is the indirect loss - all the money these people were spending on everything from cars to clothes disappears, meaning everything from the retailer selling the clothes, to the engineer making the cars lose their jobs. Now, in this year alone there have been thousands of miners laid off. Now hard to see how that impacts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaclec Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I am sure someone will be along just now to tell us its OK, there's still a shortage of brickies...................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul1977 Posted April 12, 2015 Author Share Posted April 12, 2015 Unemployment statistics in Australia are not based on a "list" of unemployed people. The figures are calculated from a survey of a representative sample of the population which is considered to be statistically significant.So it could be higher...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul1977 Posted April 12, 2015 Author Share Posted April 12, 2015 Well it may have rocketed but its still the lowest rate equal to Sydney.And people aren't getting jobs because public transport from the suburbs isn't great!! What's that all about.I agree about the transport situation from the burbs, but really if you were determined to get a job that shouldn't really matter.Learn to drive, cycle, walk....jeezo. pasMaybe that's what people mean when they say the jobs are there, if your willing.I personally think ageism and red tape is a bigger barrier to getting employment in Perth.passing ships comes to mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I am sure someone will be along just now to tell us its OK, there's still a shortage of brickies......................Am sure The Rev I M Jolly (aka VS) will know how many of them have been paid off as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuffythetugboat Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Unemployment statistics in Australia are not based on a "list" of unemployed people. The figures are calculated from a survey of a representative sample of the population which is considered to be statistically significant. None of the unemployed people I know have been surveyed, come to think of it, no one I know in work has ever been surveyed. Anyone out there been surveyed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realitynotincluded Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Now l don't know whether to feel guilty or lucky.... l have 2 jobs.... shucks.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellybingobingo Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I wouldn't feel guilty and I wouldn't feel lucky niether after all life is for living according to ya profile pic lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skani Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 None of the unemployed people I know have been surveyed, come to think of it, no one I know in work has ever been surveyed. Anyone out there been surveyed? [h=2]How is employment measured?[/h]The Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS) conducts a monthly Labour Force Survey. This household survey is designed to produce key estimates of employment (and unemployment) from a sample of approximately 56,000 people. The survey’s definition of employment closely aligns with international standards and guidelines. If you wish to read further: http://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_Library/pubs/rp/rp1314/QG/Employment So...approximately 56,000 people are surveyed each month. A representative sample is taken from each state and each population centre to try and reflect accurately what is happening in the entire country. Stick around long enough and you, too, may one day be surveyed. Prior to the early 1990s, unemployment figures were counted each month from those people registered with the Commonwealth Employment Service. I know because it was part of my job. However, as there was no requirement to register with the CES for those not claiming unemployment benefits, it did not reflect the real situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERYSTORMY Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Am sure The Rev I M Jolly (aka VS) will know how many of them have been paid off as well! Paint what i see. Of course, i could sit here - like many - and say it is all a bed of roses. Move to Perth even your poo comes out shiny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skani Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 So it could be higher...? You'd have to ask the ABS what allowance is made for sampling errors. The UK uses a similar method and a very similar figure (60,000) for its monthly Labour Force Survey, despite the much higher population. You'd have to ask a statistician why they consider these survey numbers produce a valid result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifi69 Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I don't disagree that there is big changes in Perth and WA. A blind man on a galloping horse can see it. Even in the 3 years we have been here, the difference from when we first arrived is v easy to see. But what it will actually mean to joe public isn't yet clear. Tbh, when we first arrived I found it all a bit Mickey Mouse, far too many cashed up bogans and inflated prices. for those of us lucky enough to keep our jobs (fingers crossed on that one) it might just mean a more affordable standard of living. The cost of eating out used to be and still is to certain extent,really stupidly priced but now we are at least seeing places dropping their prices and offering a better deal, hopefully more will follow. Rentals....who would now pay the asking price, never mind over the odds. Friends of ours have renegotiated their weekly rent down from $600 a week to $470. They are still earning the same wages, but said they wouldn't renew their lease because they now having to pay to go thru their PR, while also paying two lots of the school fees brought in on the 457. The owners knew they were good tentants and Didnt want to loose them. Anyway, in the long term, we all still have UK passports.....apparently its booming there. No probs we can just head back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Let us know when it goes pop so us east coasters can buy your jetskis at bargain prices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifi69 Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Let us know when it goes pop so us east coasters can buy your jetskis at bargain prices Our jet ski was a bargain anyway, all we had to do was wait a few weeks while it was shipped from America :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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