A good news stories out there???

[Kezzles]

Hi all,

ive been on this forum for a couple of months now and I've really only just begun the whole process. I'm awaiting skills assessment from vetasses and sat my IELTs last Saturday. The forum is great to see what's going on and for getting advice! However, when I've asked or seen other posts about job prospects it all seems doom and gloom! Messages saying its tough, don't expect to get a job, forget a job in your field (HR) take any old job to get in the door, your experience counts for nothing etc, you get the picture... So, it would be great to hear about any good positive results where you have managed to find work particularly if it's what you wanted. Any tips you can share will be great.

Thanks, oh and I'm applying for a 190 visa for SS to WA.

Kez

[CML1410]

Hey Kerry, can't wait to see what you get back! Maybe the success stories are too busy living and enjoying life and don't come on this forum to complain ........ lol Carmel

[pablo]

Just bumping it up now Aus is awake,cant help meself sorry,hopefully there will be some uplifting posts for people,good luck Kezzles

[Kezzles]

Just bumping it up now Aus is awake,cant help meself sorry,hopefully there will be some uplifting posts for people,good luck Kezzles

 

Thanks Pablo hopefully!! It's a pretty bleak outlook so far, surely there are some good news stories otherwise why would anyone move to Australia!!

Im pretty confident in my ability to find work but a bit of encouragement wouldn't harm...

Cheers

[Bobj]

Here you go, Kezzles;

 

Came to Australia in 1963 as a single lad of 22 and here are a few great things that have come to pass since then...

 

http://www.pomsinoz.com/forum/out-about-oz/60134-bobj-reminiscing.html

 

So, don't dwell on the negative posts, hey?

 

Cheers, Bobj.

[Kezzles]

Here you go, Kezzles;

 

Came to Australia in 1963 as a single lad of 22 and here are a few great things that have come to pass since then...

 

http://www.pomsinoz.com/forum/out-about-oz/60134-bobj-reminiscing.html

 

So, don't dwell on the negative posts, hey?

 

Cheers, Bobj.

 

 

Cheers Bob, you should write a book!!! :biggrin:

[Rupert]

Thanks Pablo hopefully!! It's a pretty bleak outlook so far, surely there are some good news stories otherwise why would anyone move to Australia!!

Im pretty confident in my ability to find work but a bit of encouragement wouldn't harm...

Cheers

 

I never came out with the expectation that I should have to take a backwards step on the career ladder, I think if you start with that mentality it shows and makes you look like you are not sure of yourself. I think it is important to be confident and positive.

 

We moved out three years ago on the skilled migrant visa. We did a pre move trip to test the job market, my OH had a job offer within a few days and I got a job offer as I was at the airport about to leave. My job was a step up, my OH had a comparable position but on a slightly lower rate because that occupation just pays less here. However 8 months later his boss resigned and my OH got that role with a 45% pay increase so that was then a step up up too.

 

We are both with our same companies still. My OH gets opportunity to attend overseas conferences and meetings, just a few times a year which keeps it fun. I am now on succession planning pathway to executive level. We were doing well in the UK too and very happy there with career and other aspects of life, but focusing on career in particular, I think if you are good then on balance it is easier to shine in Australia because of the smaller pool.

 

is this optimistic enough?

 

:biggrin:

[Kezzles]

I never came out with the expectation that I should have to take a backwards step on the career ladder, I think if you start with that mentality it shows and makes you look like you are not sure of yourself. I think it is important to be confident and positive.

 

We moved out three years ago on the skilled migrant visa. We did a pre move trip to test the job market, my OH had a job offer within a few days and I got a job offer as I was at the airport about to leave. My job was a step up, my OH had a comparable position but on a slightly lower rate because that occupation just pays less here. However 8 months later his boss resigned and my OH got that role with a 45% pay increase so that was then a step up up too.

 

We are both with our same companies still. My OH gets opportunity to attend overseas conferences and meetings, just a few times a year which keeps it fun. I am now on succession planning pathway to executive level. We were doing well in the UK too and very happy there with career and other aspects of life, but focusing on career in particular, I think if you are good then on balance it is easier to shine in Australia because of the smaller pool.

 

is this optimistic enough?

 

:biggrin:

 

yeah!!!! Thanks I was feeling like your post above but god some comments on here are frankly depressing!! I'm good at what I do (not boasting) but I've built up a good career in past 10 years so I know I can do this! Thanks so much for your message!

[Jessica Berry]

My OH works in IT. Within a week of arriving he had a temp job and within 3 weeks of arriving he had a perm job. He stayed in this job for 4 years, then decided it was time to move on. From looking on seek for a new job, applying for a job through an agency, meeting with the agency, being interviewed by the company and being offered the job and negotiating his salary he had a new job in 2 weeks and only went for one interview. If he was to lose his job for any reason we are very confident he would secure work very quickly. He has skills that are in demand, presents well at interview and of course has me advising him ha ha!!! He works at a higher level than he did in the UK and earns more than double what he did in the UK.

[Jessica Berry]

Where my OH works there are a few migrants and they have done well for themselves in IT.

 

I have worked with migrant poms that now work as a Director and 2 as HR Managers, they all came out around the same time as us and came without jobs and started from scratch.

 

Everyones journey is different and that includes your job journey. I often tell people the story of a couple we met who came out to Adelaide. On paper the husband of the couple and my OH were almost the same, they did almost the same job, had a very similar skill set, they were the same age and had similar personalities. He had no trouble getting a job, but the couple lasted 3 months over here and went back to the UK. Yet my OH has flourished in his career and absolutely loves living here.

 

Everyone is different and has different expectations.

[Alaska]

It really depends on where you move and what occupation you are in.

 

Just bear in mind that all the people I know who have moved here and are in work, no longer come on the forum. Often people come on when they have a problem with something like work so it isn't going to be a representative sample.

 

I am not looking for work so can't comment from my experience, but the people I know have found work but some have taken a while and lots of applications. Once they have that first job things have seemed to be much easier when they want to move on.

[VERYSTORMY]

It varies from job to job. There are some careers doing very well and others not and even specialism within - a guy with the same qualifications as myself working in oil and gas is seeing good times. In minerals it's pretty bad. Also varies by state. I think all you can do, is research your own industry as much as possible.

[Kezzles]

Thanks all for your comments, the sun is beaming down in London today so I'm feeling happy and looking forward to my Aussie adventure!

[CML1410]

It really depends on where you move and what occupation you are in.

 

Just bear in mind that all the people I know who have moved here and are in work, no longer come on the forum. Often people come on when they have a problem with something like work so it isn't going to be a representative sample.

 

I am not looking for work so can't comment from my experience, but the people I know have found work but some have taken a while and lots of applications. Once they have that first job things have seemed to be much easier when they want to move on.

 

I knew it!!! I had a feeling that the people who are out there living and happy are not on here! I know it might be tough getting that first 'break' but fingers crossed and a bit of luck we willl be fine!! :biggrin:

[BearRules]

I work in a small software house in Hobart. It was the second job I applied for, the first being unsuitable as the job was advertised as a developer role but turned out at interview to be IT support. I've been in the job for 16 months.

 

Compared to my work in the UK, I am much happier in my current job. The work is more interesting, and as its a small company I get direct customer contact.

 

We have just recruited a new developer. The advert was put on Seek, and despite providing direct contact details, some applicants still chose to apply via a recruitment agency. This costs my boss thousands in recruitment fees, so direct applicants were favoured during the selection process.

[Rupert]

I knew it!!! I had a feeling that the people who are out there living and happy are not on here! I know it might be tough getting that first 'break' but fingers crossed and a bit of luck we willl be fine!! :biggrin:

 

Of course PIO does not comprise unhappy, unemployed people! It is the 21st century, it is perfectly normal to use the intranet and plenty of happy and / or employed do so.

[Alaska]

Of course PIO does not comprise unhappy, unemployed people! It is the 21st century, it is perfectly normal to use the intranet and plenty of happy and / or employed do so.

 

No it doesn't but it really isn't a representative sample and by definition most people are looking for "help" of some kind. Yes, there are some of us who are happily settled who stick around for various reasons and some who are plain addicted etc. I can honestly say that pretty much all the people who I have met in real life, who have used the forum, have moved on when they are well settled.

[CML1410]

Of course PIO does not comprise unhappy, unemployed people! It is the 21st century, it is perfectly normal to use the intranet and plenty of happy and / or employed do so.

 

I was responding to the words 'Just bear in mind that all the people I know who have moved here and are in work, no longer come on the forum'. I didn't say anythign about PIO comprising unhappy, unemployed people. As a newbie I have heard quite a few stories on here of how people just haven't gotten work so this thread will be interesting for us to hear all the good luck stories!!

[Jessica Berry]

Some good news, my contract has been extended for another 3 months - yeah!!! Although I did have to remind my boss that I only had 11 working days left until I was finishing and then she put the paperwork in to get the extension approved, you can't rush things especially in Adelaide! :biggrin:

[Incata]

It does not matter how good you think you are, if you can't get an interview because they want people with local experience. It makes not a jot of difference whether you are excellent or hopeless at what you do if they won't even look beyond the first job on your CV (and when they see it is not at a company in WA, put it on the reject pile). I notice that all the people who have posted so far got their roles over a year ago when the market was booming. Currently it isn't.

 

If you have enough money to last you at least 6 months, and a partner in a genuine shortage occupation you should be fine. HR in WA is not a shortage occupation and there are a large number of HR people with local qualifications and experience who are looking for work, and they are taking priority over newcomers. There were hundreds of HR redundancies between September and December in Perth last year and many of those are still unemployed and still looking for work.

 

Try posting a question for experienced HR people in Perth and see how many without experience in WA have managed to secure work since last September, that will give you a more realistic view of what it is like here at the moment. Alternatively, pick up the phone and call some of the recruitment agencies with specialist HR recruitment teams (Michael Page, Robert Walters or Hudson for example) and ask them about the situation at the moment for people without WA HR experience. You may get a shock.

 

It's up to you whether you are realistic about the situation out here or not, but if you have a good job in the UK at the moment, you should think very carefully and do a lot more research about the actual situation here, before deciding when and if to move. In 6 months or a years time, the situation may have improved significantly. If you are on your own, or your partner is not in a genuine shortage occupation so can secure work quickly, and you have no savings, you could be in trouble very quickly.

[Kezzles]

Some good news, my contract has been extended for another 3 months - yeah!!! Although I did have to remind my boss that I only had 11 working days left until I was finishing and then she put the paperwork in to get the extension approved, you can't rush things especially in Adelaide! :biggrin:

Well done you!!!

[Kezzles]

It does not matter how good you think you are, if you can't get an interview because they want people with local experience. It makes not a jot of difference whether you are excellent or hopeless at what you do if they won't even look beyond the first job on your CV (and when they see it is not at a company in WA, put it on the reject pile). I notice that all the people who have posted so far got their roles over a year ago when the market was booming. Currently it isn't.

 

If you have enough money to last you at least 6 months, and a partner in a genuine shortage occupation you should be fine. HR in WA is not a shortage occupation and there are a large number of HR people with local qualifications and experience who are looking for work, and they are taking priority over newcomers. There were hundreds of HR redundancies between September and December in Perth last year and many of those are still unemployed and still looking for work.

 

Try posting a question for experienced HR people in Perth and see how many without experience in WA have managed to secure work since last September, that will give you a more realistic view of what it is like here at the moment. Alternatively, pick up the phone and call some of the recruitment agencies with specialist HR recruitment teams (Michael Page, Robert Walters or Hudson for example) and ask them about the situation at the moment for people without WA HR experience. You may get a shock.

 

It's up to you whether you are realistic about the situation out here or not, but if you have a good job in the UK at the moment, you should think very carefully and do a lot more research about the actual situation here, before deciding when and if to move. In 6 months or a years time, the situation may have improved significantly. If you are on your own, or your partner is not in a genuine shortage occupation so can secure work quickly, and you have no savings, you could be in trouble very quickly.

 

thanks for your insight into this, I certainly will be calling up agencies etc before we make any definite plans to move out. Do you work in HR then or know someone who does?

I scan the job sites weekly and there are new jobs popping up all the time, I'm not saying those jobs are available but it must be a good thing for those already there looking. I'd heard many HR professionals had been laid off through my contacts in Perth. I'm hoping with my breadth of experience I can diversify into other areas if someone gives me a break?!

 

we are completely realistic and don't expect to walk into jobs we have open minds and we are up to the challenge, hopefully taking a sabbatical from our jobs here in case it all goes wrong!

[Rupert]

It does not matter how good you think you are, if you can't get an interview because they want people with local experience. It makes not a jot of difference whether you are excellent or hopeless at what you do if they won't even look beyond the first job on your CV (and when they see it is not at a company in WA, put it on the reject pile). I notice that all the people who have posted so far got their roles over a year ago when the market was booming. Currently it isn't.

 

ly.

 

We moved over three years ago, not one year ago and the market was not particularly great then either. Indeed I heard no end of this "local experience" clap trap even back then and how difficult it is to get the first job and how it would be necessary to take a backwards step blag blah blah, I think some even suggested I might need to retake qualifications or at least register with an Australian body..

 

But I took no notice of any of it, I didnt take any notice of this concept of "australianising" my CV either. I found none of it to be true, in fact even since then, I have found my Australian colleagues practically high five down the corridors if one of them manages to attract a Brit to a role. There is plenty to be positive about and I think it is important to keep positive and believe in yourself.

[CML1410]

We moved over three years ago, not one year ago and the market was not particularly great then either. Indeed I heard no end of this "local experience" clap trap even back then and how difficult it is to get the first job and how it would be necessary to take a backwards step blag blah blah, I think some even suggested I might need to retake qualifications or at least register with an Australian body..

 

But I took no notice of any of it, I didnt take any notice of this concept of "australianising" my CV either. I found none of it to be true, in fact even since then, I have found my Australian colleagues practically high five down the corridors if one of them manages to attract a Brit to a role. There is plenty to be positive about and I think it is important to keep positive and believe in yourself.

 

 

Rupert I have to say I love your post! Thank you for being a breath of fresh air in amongst all of the doom and gloom!! Best wishes Carmel

[Kezzles]

We moved over three years ago, not one year ago and the market was not particularly great then either. Indeed I heard no end of this "local experience" clap trap even back then and how difficult it is to get the first job and how it would be necessary to take a backwards step blag blah blah, I think some even suggested I might need to retake qualifications or at least register with an Australian body..

 

But I took no notice of any of it, I didnt take any notice of this concept of "australianising" my CV either. I found none of it to be true, in fact even since then, I have found my Australian colleagues practically high five down the corridors if one of them manages to attract a Brit to a role. There is plenty to be positive about and I think it is important to keep positive and believe in yourself.

 

Thanks Rupert after yesterday's cyber bashing on here I really appreciate your words!!