Perthbum Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Oh don't be so ridiculous and not to mention tedious. You think happy people never get onto a computer, it is the 21st century for goodness sake, do you think happy people are only in the house when they sleep, never sit down or watch TV. Grow up. maybe all the happy people are out on the streets running naked with a tulip between their teeth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicF Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Remember that people on this forum are usually either about to go to Aus, or don't like it there and want to come home. The people, and there are a lot of people, that have emigrated and love life over there are more than likely out there loving life instead of in front of a computer. I'm in Australia, I'm happy and I spend half my day in front of the computer (well ipad, but same thing really). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARYROSE02 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Remember that people on this forum are usually either about to go to Aus, or don't like it there and want to come home. The people, and there are a lot of people, that have emigrated and love life over there are more than likely out there loving life instead of in front of a computer. Except 'sad' specimens like myself, at home on a Friday night, watching 'Zulu' & heating up a 'Cornish' pastie for dinner, when I could be in any of a score or more of bars and restaurants within a kilometre of my unit. I did have a rather nice hot chocolate from a new place in Penrith which I drank on the train home though. I may pop down the pub a little later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chris955 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Everyone is different, for us as we have left Brisbane to return to the UK we would say no it isnt all it is cracked up to be. For me it is slightly different as I grew up in Australia so Im not a recent arrival. It has become VERY expensive in recent times but can still be a nice place to live like anywhere really. If it is what you want to do then give it a go, if it doesnt work you can always go home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest76088 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 I have run a few fora, and my experience has been regardless of whether they are sitting at home or not (with modern ubiquitous mobile computing they may not be), people are far more likely to comment if they have strong views and are unhappy, than if they are satisfied and happy with moderate views. Who would seek out a forum such as this if they had migrated, integrated and were enjoying themselves? If the migrant had integrated well and had few problems I see that the attraction to socialise online with others that simply share the same homeland may not be so strong. Most of the posts I have read on this forum have been either factually based enquiries or emotionally-laden accounts seeking validation. So I think your comment is not justified. BigD Oh don't be so ridiculous and not to mention tedious. You think happy people never get onto a computer, it is the 21st century for goodness sake, do you think happy people are only in the house when they sleep, never sit down or watch TV. Grow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skani Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Anyway I'm just wondering if oz is all its cracked up to be? It depends on your interpretation of "all it's cracked up to be". That could mean a thousand different things to a thousand different people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northshorepom Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 I have run a few fora, and my experience has been regardless of whether they are sitting at home or not (with modern ubiquitous mobile computing they may not be), people are far more likely to comment if they have strong views and are unhappy, than if they are satisfied and happy with moderate views. I don't really understand why running forums means you have any more insight than the average Joe into whether or not the people who are on them are representative.....because, err, you only see the people who are on them, don't you? Who would seek out a forum such as this if they had migrated, integrated and were enjoying themselves?\Well, plenty of people living here and on this forum who are doing just that. So your question is already answered I suggest, maybe not in the way you think, mind, but you get that. Most of the posts I have read on this forum have been either factually based enquiries or emotionally-laden accounts seeking validation. Really? Most of it just looks like idle chat IMO. And I don't think propensity to engage in idle internet chat has any correlation to happiness Whilst I wouldn't express my views quite so stridently as Rupert, I share them to some extent. I frequently challenge the furphy that "those who are happy don't post here". It's based around a massive fat assumption if you ask me, how can any of us possibly know whether or not those who post here are representative? None of us can possibly say it with any certainty. In some ways when it's posted, it says more about the person who's posted it than anything else. Perhaps they're trying to convince themselves, I don't know? I can say that from almost every one of Rupert's posts I've seen on here, he's clearly happy with his life here. As am I, and countless others who are still on here posting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galahad Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 I'm happy - I'm posting & regarding the 'OZ Factor' - it's a 'YES'...... :yes: (Rupert gets a bit cross sometimes - he's not been the same since he left Nutwood!) :no: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeepingTom Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 I dont know which line of work are you in, but if its just for pure adventure and experiencing a new country, go for it.. But if you are serious about your career progression, then staying put in the Northern Hemisphere would be my choice....We moved from India --> Oz (for a year, applied PR) --> Japan --> Oz (got aussie citizenship )--> now in London.. and IMHO, London has so much to offer in terms of schooling options for your kids, travelling around Europe and the world, culture, theatre, history etc... The World seems so very distant when you are in Oz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest76088 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 An internet user that is sufficiently motivated to register is therefore highly likely to be prevalidated as part of the interest group which represents the population of interest. Bots and phantom IDs are discouraged by the registration process including Captcha, random questions and validated email addresses. You'd be surprised how much information you can glean from a forum member aside from their profile details. Many fora require membership before postings can be read. If you have an administrators account you can see who is logged in, what they are reading, and how long they do it for. If they contribute you can categorise posts by content using review, keyword frequency or similar. Metrics regarding the number of contributions / reading-hour of any member can be maintained to establish their level of engagement. If there is a login-timeout and log of page-fetches then there is a higher level of confidence that they are continuing to actively read the site. Using such methods you have the raw data to design research based on the contributions and metadata described to test pretty much any hypothesis you want regarding the forum membership. Even to the extent to which "Average Joe" commits spelling mistakes, responds only to female posters or posts only once to his own thread. Glad to hear you are one of the happy and prolific posters. No doubt that will be weighted in the results :biggrin: Just to be clear, this is not the kind of analysis in which I indulge, but marketeers and researchers certainly do. BigD I don't really understand why running forums means you have any more insight than the average Joe into whether or not the people who are on them are representative.....because, err, you only see the people who are on them, don't you? \ Well, plenty of people living here and on this forum who are doing just that. So your question is already answered I suggest, maybe not in the way you think, mind, but you get that. Really? Most of it just looks like idle chat IMO. And I don't think propensity to engage in idle internet chat has any correlation to happiness Whilst I wouldn't express my views quite so stridently as Rupert, I share them to some extent. I frequently challenge the furphy that "those who are happy don't post here". It's based around a massive fat assumption if you ask me, how can any of us possibly know whether or not those who post here are representative? None of us can possibly say it with any certainty. In some ways when it's posted, it says more about the person who's posted it than anything else. Perhaps they're trying to convince themselves, I don't know? I can say that from almost every one of Rupert's posts I've seen on here, he's clearly happy with his life here. As am I, and countless others who are still on here posting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARYROSE02 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 What IS Australia 'cracked up to be' anyway? 'Something old, something new, something borrowed, something blue?' 'A coat of many colours?' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilkiwoo Posted October 12, 2012 Author Share Posted October 12, 2012 Great bits of advice coming through! Basically nothing I didn't already know, just need to actually make the leap of faith and actually go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perthbum Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 What IS Australia 'cracked up to be' anyway? 'Something old, something new, something borrowed, something blue?' 'A coat of many colours?' I think the glossy tv programs give a view of oz which is far prettier than in reality, I think this is why the false perception of oz gets out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Ropey HOFF Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Of course it's all it's cracked up to be. Every year its voted top or near top in the polls for being the best country in the world to love in, YEAH BABY !!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blobby1000 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 In many ways coming here, and the way I went about it, is the worst decision I ever made. But I would never have known that if I had not done it. I don't actually regret it, i would just never have done it had I known what it was like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blobby1000 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Of course it's all it's cracked up to be. Every year its voted top or near top in the polls for being the best country in the world to love in, YEAH BABY !!!!!! Oh no not more quantified surveys to confirm Australia's greatness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blobby1000 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Brisbane is lovely and I am sure you will like it. Yes I think Australia is all it is cracked up to be and more- but a lot depends on you and your attitudes. Aussies just hate to be criticized ( even when it is justified)- they are very patriotic and different from many in the UK in that respect. Sure, they will have a good whinge about government etc but underneath- there is a patriot! And its bloody hard living in a country where you have to constantly tread on egg shells. It is exhausting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chris955 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Oh no not more quantified surveys to confirm Australia's greatness :biglaugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Ropey HOFF Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 In many ways coming here, and the way I went about it, is the worst decision I ever made. But I would never have known that if I had not done it. I don't actually regret it, i would just never have done it had I known what it was like You do know that Australia is a big country don't you? you don't know what it is like, you know what a tiny part of Melbourne is like, you didn't like it, but others do and others love many other places in all of the other states. Australia keeps getting voted top or near to the top on these surveys and polls, the UK never features. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chris955 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 He does have the advantage of actually having lived in Australia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Ropey HOFF Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 He does have the advantage of actually having lived in Australia One place, isn't all of Australia though is it, it's still more than myself though, it's one place more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest76386 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 And its bloody hard living in a country where you have to constantly tread on egg shells. It is exhausting. Thats your experience. I know British, Irish , Scottish and Welsh families that have all moved to Australia and have never been better off and enjoyed there life more than they ever did at home. Go into a Irish bar or a bar where british get together in oz. They dont whinge about oz, they whinge about the state there home is in mostly from my experiences. See it at work as well. They love the country and appreciate it and the people. Might be a surprise to some but they fit in and get along well with everyone as well. Dont listen to a selected fews views and let it put you off. Australia has so many opportunities and a great way of life if you take advantage of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheArmChairDetective Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Hi guys, I'm new to PIO, just stumbled upon it by mistake but boy am I glad I did! Lots of useful advice I could have done with a few months ago! Anyway I'm just wondering if oz is all its cracked up to be? I've got a life changing decision to make in the coming weeks and would be thankful of any advice! I've been offered a good job in Brisbane, I've just received my perm res visa through the company and set to go next year! I'm settled in the uk but always looking for my next adventure. Help me make my decision a little easier, please! Yey or nay! I say Yay, go and have a life adventure. You won't know if you like it if you don't and once there if you decide it's not for you so be it. You could of course not go and then spend the rest of your life wondering "What If". Of course, migrating to any country involves hard work, adapting to a change of culture and fitting in as best as possible. Most certainly Australia won't be "Little Britain" and nor should it be. Go enjoy yourself. Thats your experience. I know British, Irish , Scottish and Welsh families that have all moved to Australia and have never been better off and enjoyed there life more than they ever did at home. Go into a Irish bar or a bar where british get together in oz. They dont whinge about oz, they whinge about the state there home is in mostly from my experiences. See it at work as well. They love the country and appreciate it and the people. Might be a surprise to some but they fit in and get along well with everyone as well. Dont listen to a selected fews views and let it put you off. Australia has so many opportunities and a great way of life if you take advantage of it. A good post, straight speaking. Karma Given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Go,make yer own mind up,what other people want might not be the same as you want,so altho opinion/advice is a help i suppose,you know yerself theres only one way to find out,sorry for stating the obvious,but thats the only way to know for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakeboard1980 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 My best bit of advice after reading posts on here over the past couple of years is just remember......Australia is NOT the UK. Do not expect it to be and you might be 1/2 way there. Good luck with you decision OP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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