Guest SapConsultant Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Hi Everybody, I'm a Junior Business Analyst. I got my MBA Master's degree on March 2012, been working in various consulting firm. I have been working in a famous consulting company for 6 months (till now) on SAP ECC, CRM and BS 7.0. I'm thinking of coming to Australia, probably with the Working Holiday visa around october - march 2013. I will apply also for some skilled visa, but I don't think I will be able to get one (i hava an MBA and not ICT master, plus few months of working experience). I really need suggestions. Please Thanks in advance Fabrizio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junedc Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Hi all, Nice to find this thread. I'm a Java Developer with 7 years of experience mostly in banking compliance. Hope to find any opportunities here. Thanks. June Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PW1 Posted June 5, 2013 Author Share Posted June 5, 2013 Hello everyone, I thought I'd bump the thread to see how everyone is getting on. The thread lost its way a bit, it was originally for people already in OZ that were looking for work rather than those that had not yet arrived, but all is welcome. So if you are in OZ and looking, how are you all finding it at the moment? I have read that the IT job market is saturated right now and difficult. Would your perception of the IT job market reflect this, or have you had difference experiences? Remember to mention your location and what you do in your reply, or a clear picture of the current state of affairs will not be achieved. Cheers! PW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolvesaussie Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 I got offered two jobs from the uk in Melbourne. I am an aussie passport holder tho. not mrga money 80, 000 sql server work. applied for about ten jobs maybe interviewed for four. didnt seem like it was that hard to find work in that area. there were actually so many jobs advertised I couldn't keep up over a period of days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mw291073 Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Hello everyone, I thought I'd bump the thread to see how everyone is getting on. The thread lost its way a bit, it was originally for people already in OZ that were looking for work rather than those that had not yet arrived, but all is welcome. So if you are in OZ and looking, how are you all finding it at the moment? I have read that the IT job market is saturated right now and difficult. Would your perception of the IT job market reflect this, or have you had difference experiences? Remember to mention your location and what you do in your reply, or a clear picture of the current state of affairs will not be achieved. Cheers! PW. Managed to secure a Cisco CCNP network role based in Melbourne from the UK - I am an NZ passport holder. Start in July. Various forums mention how tough it is out there, but I guess it depends what IT area you work in, your skills and visa situation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bromney Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Managed to secure a Cisco CCNP network role based in Melbourne from the UK - I am an NZ passport holder. Start in July. Various forums mention how tough it is out there, but I guess it depends what IT area you work in, your skills and visa situation? Also depends heavily on the city/area, a lot more jobs available in the likes of Sydney & Melbourne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewRomford Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 (edited) The pay rates and opportunities for support roles are nose diving in Melbourne. I have a number of contacts who are spending months out of work between roles. The recruitment agencies remind me of real estate agents in the UK before the GFC. The last desktop role I applied for had over 300 applicants..... Also depends heavily on the city/area, a lot more jobs available in the likes of Sydney & Melbourne. Edited June 8, 2013 by AndrewRomford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MicheleW Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 This may make interesting reading for those looking at heading to Qld. http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/it-pro/government-it/queensland-government-to-outsource-it-services-20130607-2nuac.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewRomford Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 A friend of mine is moving from Melb back to QLD, that's how difficult he thinks it is in Melbourne. If you want to really find out what its like ask a friendly cabbie. Last week, I took a cab to get to a remote site in the city, the driver is doing taxi work as he can't find any IT work in the Server Support field. He was managing 30 - 40 people 18 months ago before being made redundant. His wife has also just been made redundant in her accounting job, who do you believe - I believe my contacts on the ground, it is terrible at the moment.... This may make interesting reading for those looking at heading to Qld. http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/it-pro/government-it/queensland-government-to-outsource-it-services-20130607-2nuac.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibbs Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 (edited) I'm in Perth. Mainly .NET development with SQL admin thrown in. I've been contacted about 3 full time roles in the last month, but don't want to quit my current client. Pay would have been "market rates", so $600 - $760 a day going by the latest review on Robert Walters ($75-$95 ph). I'm contacted fairly often, mainly via LinkedIn. I've had to turn most down though as they all want full-time. Edited June 10, 2013 by Bibbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibbs Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 After another .NET developer. Graduate or junior level for a "blue chip" company. Perth based, full time, normal rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul1Perth Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 After another .NET developer. Graduate or junior level for a "blue chip" company. Perth based, full time, normal rates. What's normal rates? There are a few developers getting made redundant from our place at the moment, some of them are good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibbs Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 What's normal rates? There are a few developers getting made redundant from our place at the moment, some of them are good. We are after a junior .. so it would be $60k - $90k depending on how good a fit they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessica Berry Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 (edited) We have been in Adelaide 6 years now. My partner works in IT in Adelaide his skills are VMware, Microsoft Server, Microsoft Exchange, general server infrastructure support. He hasn't had any trouble finding work and finds his skills are much in demand. He currently works as an IT Consultant, but for one company and goes out to clients and has been there for 2 years. His company take on a steady stream of new people (as their business is growing and due to turnover as people find new opportunities) and are still recruiting, 2 new people start in a few weeks with similar skills to my partners. I recently worked with a new arrival pom who had an IT background. He had worked for the same company for almost 20 years and had quite specialised skills working with a specialised product that is not used in Australia. It took him 3 months to gain work, but he has managed to secure a temporary contract, which looks like it will be extended and it is a great 'foot in the door' opportunity. The difficulty was trying to 'sell' his skills to employers. I spotted the job he has currently and to his credit he trusted my judgement and advice and basically did what I told him ha ha!!! As others have said, it depends a lot on your skill set, but attitude and approach goes a long way too in my experience. Edited July 11, 2013 by Jessica Berry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markshaw59 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Hi all, what is the job market like for newly qualified tecs or juniors? Just done cisco IT essentials and doing 70-680 &70-685 exams in September. Just got first job to get experience and looking to make the move in the next 2 years tops. 457 or perminment visa if poss. Looking around Sydney with a young(ish) family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul1Perth Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Hi all, what is the job market like for newly qualified tecs or juniors? Just done cisco IT essentials and doing 70-680 &70-685 exams in September. Just got first job to get experience and looking to make the move in the next 2 years tops. 457 or perminment visa if poss. Looking around Sydney with a young(ish) family. If you've managed to get your first job experience in the UK then it's going to be much the same here mate. Get as much experience and quals as you can and stick at it. Take every opportunity to learn as much, in as broad an area you can. CISCO are good quals to have, universally accepted, good to get some microsoft server, latest version, linux/unix, networking, security, all desirables. Get yourself on linkedin and start spreading the word. Try and get to know people and the jobs will follow. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobner Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 Hi all..... I'm an IT Professional 15 yrs.. Senior support background... CCNA Security, MCSA, MCITP... Blah blah...... Moved into Project Management, IT Project Delivery (Prince2, ITIL) in Major banks..... (BNYM, HSBC)..... And reading this thread is very insightful.... But you know what I really need..... Is a couple of IT / Technology focused Agencies that target Sponsorship roles... And that is the hardest part...!.. In all of your digging and research... Can anyone point me in the right direction..... Help me separate the 'wheat from the chaff'..?? ... Thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibbs Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 I went to a few IT specialist agencies in Perth. After 26 months I finally got details of a job available. Agencies? I wouldn't bother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adaminoz Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 The company I work for has really struggled to find decent IT staff with good client-facing skills. My comments below are after unsuccessfully helping my employer look for 2 X wintel/infrastructure people (including looking through CVs, advertising directly and through many agents, lots of phone and face-to-face interviews) It seems that people who are decently skilled (to CCNA, MCITP-level, circa 5 years' experience) but also impressive in front of clients for less than $100k are nowhere to be found. Someone in this thread above said that there was 300 applicants for one job. Whilst that may be the case, 285 of them are flawed in one way or the other. They're either personally flawed (anyone who works in IT knows exactly what I mean by that) or are lacking in the sort of the technical learning agility that would have made them develop into decent L2/3 engineers after their few years in the job. My assessment after more than 6 months of searching is that the network/systems market *is* saturated, it's saturated by poor quality candidates. (by the way, if you are nodding along with the above, and are looking for a systems engineer job, send me a PM :-) ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salanthia Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Hi Can anyone give me information on experience of IT recruiters in Melbourne? Which are the main ones, positive and negative experiences etc? Moving out in a few weeks and have just started applying (returning citizen). Seem a reasonable number of jobs available in what is a bit of a niche now (legacy mainframe stuff mainly). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibbs Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 for less than $100k I recon that's your issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjmaddicks Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 (by the way, if you are nodding along with the above, and are looking for a systems engineer job, send me a PM :-) ) Hi Adam, As an experienced systems engineer I am interested in your post, however when I try and pm you it doesn't allow me!! :ssign16: :ssign7: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PW1 Posted August 6, 2013 Author Share Posted August 6, 2013 I recon that's your issue. That he wants someone for less than a 100k? What's the average (ballpark figure)? Cheers, PW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul1Perth Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 That he wants someone for less than a 100k? What's the average (ballpark figure)? Cheers, PW The guy in question was after It seems that people who are decently skilled (to CCNA, MCITP-level, circa 5 years' experience) but also impressive in front of clients for less than $100k are nowhere to be found. So min 5 years experience, with good quals, most people would be doing that stuff after a degree and then wants people to be impressive in front of clients. Those types would be in demand and I reckon min $120k. Different if you're looking for a new graduate to train up or someone to sit behind a desk and write code. Quite a few of those around. A lot of them you wouldn't let near a customer though. They would be maybe $80-$100K. More for a team leader senior programmer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibbs Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 The guy in question was after So min 5 years experience, with good quals, most people would be doing that stuff after a degree and then wants people to be impressive in front of clients. Those types would be in demand and I reckon min $120k. Different if you're looking for a new graduate to train up or someone to sit behind a desk and write code. Quite a few of those around. A lot of them you wouldn't let near a customer though. They would be maybe $80-$100K. More for a team leader senior programmer. Yup, that was my take on it. They want the "perfect" candidate, but don't want to pay the price for one. Like most things : "Fast, reliable, cheap - pick any two" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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