How many cat 6 applied in 2008

[mchugh1980]

Hi Everyone

 

Well just wondering how many of us catergory 6's applied in 2008? myself and OH applied in Dec 2008

 

As far as we are aware they have more or less sorted all cats 1-4 and are working on cat 5 so when 1st July happens and its new year 2010/2011 they might actually start to process Cat 6

 

If we can work out how many there is of us we might have some kind of idea if we'll get pocessed 2010/2011 (thats if we dont get capped and ceased first!!!!)

 

Please can you reply with dates application lodged and your details etc

 

Many thanks

 

Claire

[Bluecatcollectables]

Hi,

I applied in December 2008 also. Let us hope that they will get to process category 6 soon. Would be nice :wink:. I would not worry too much about this capping business. My agent informs me that the applications which might be capped will be from people who would not actually have been successful with their Visa application the first place. Ie. bad IELTS test results and peope who lodged a very long time ago, ie pre 2007. ( i have actually no idea how they could be in the system so long, pre September 2009, but maybe they did not hand in all the necessary documents?) Anyway, I hope other Category 6 applicants will join this post, as I am also interested to find out how many of us there are. Good luck to all of us hopefully very soon :hug: Blue Cat Collectables

[Guest linxinkai]

Same here， applied dec 2008， onshore 885

So far all our material in eGSM still shows 'required'...

I donot really think they will start to process cat6 any time soon, im trying to get into cat4 before the end of this year,but still waiting for new policy about priority list after 1st/july

[mark roberts]

Hi,

I applied in December 2008 also. Let us hope that they will get to process category 6 soon. Would be nice :wink:. I would not worry too much about this capping business. My agent informs me that the applications which might be capped will be from people who would not actually have been successful with their Visa application the first place. Ie. bad IELTS test results and peope who lodged a very long time ago, ie pre 2007. ( i have actually no idea how they could be in the system so long, pre September 2009, but maybe they did not hand in all the necessary documents?) Anyway, I hope other Category 6 applicants will join this post, as I am also interested to find out how many of us there are. Good luck to all of us hopefully very soon :hug: Blue Cat Collectables

 

My application was sent in October 2008, since then I have received state sponsorship from Victoria, which DIAC told me will be backdated to my original application, waiting to see what happens on 1st July.

[Guest lindyverm04]

We are not 2008, but 7 months later - July 2009!

 

176 Family sponsored (evisa) -lodged July 2009. I am a primary school teacher which is not on the new SOL. :mad:

[Guest gmac]

Hi McHugh,

 

Didn't submitt in 2008 but still awaiting CAT 6. Here goes:

 

Name: Gary Mac

What Visa: GSM PR 176 Family Sponsored

How far along are you: Applied 22/ 04/ 09 Human Resource Manager [1213- 11] IELTS 8.5

Where you going to be living: Perth

 

Cheers,

 

Gary

[Guest Gollywobbler]

Hi,

I applied in December 2008 also. Let us hope that they will get to process category 6 soon. Would be nice :wink:. I would not worry too much about this capping business. My agent informs me that the applications which might be capped will be from people who would not actually have been successful with their Visa application the first place. Ie. bad IELTS test results and peope who lodged a very long time ago, ie pre 2007. ( i have actually no idea how they could be in the system so long, pre September 2009, but maybe they did not hand in all the necessary documents?) Anyway, I hope other Category 6 applicants will join this post, as I am also interested to find out how many of us there are. Good luck to all of us hopefully very soon :hug: Blue Cat Collectables

 

 

Hi there Blue Cat Collectables

 

Your agent is completely mistaken. Is this person registered with the MARA?

 

https://www.mara.gov.au/agent/ARSearch.aspx?FolderID=394

 

The people who have been waiting since before 1st September 2007 lodged visa applications that were correct in every respect, for the most part. Because of that fact, the Minister cannot refuse their applications - Section 65 of the Migration Act 1958 requires the Minister to process those applications instead.

 

Since the Act slams the door on a wrongful visa refusal, the Minister's next trick was to claim that he would use his powers under Section 39 of the Migration Act 1958 in order to cap & terminate those applications instead - just get rid of them so as to pretend that the applications had never been made.

 

It was pointed out to the Minister that this notion contains a load of potential legal problems for him as well.

 

So now the Minister is trying to slide his new Visa Capping Bill 2010 under the radars. If the Bill becomes Law then it will (finally) give him the powers that he actually wants. However the new Bill has run into difficulties in the Senate (the Upper House of Parliament in Australia.) The Senate referred the Bill to the Legal & Constitutional Affairs Committee of the Senate. Originally this Committee was told to consider the proposed Bill, consider what everybody apart from the Minister thinks about the proposed new powers and to provide a formal Report on the whole thing on 15th June 2010.

 

The Committee has decided that the Government's timetable is much too short, so the Committee intends to insist on having more time in which to sort the whole thing out properly, it seems:

 

Parliament of Australia: Senate: Committees: Legal and Constitutional Affairs Committee: Migration Amendment (Visa Capping) Bill 2010 [Provisions]: Information about the Inquiry

 

It seems that if this Bill is decided at all before Parliament is prorogued prior to the next General Election in Oz, the Bill will not become Law as quickly as the Minister may have hoped. It is open to the Senate simply to chuck the whole thing out and to tell the Minister for Immi to wait and see whether his Government is re-elected in the forthcoming General Election. If it is re-elected and Krudd decides to keep Senator Evans as his Minister for Immi, then Evans would have the chance to introduce the whole thing properly in the next 3 years of Parliament in Oz.

 

Apparently it is quite unusual for the sitting Government in Australia to be defeated on any Bill which is introduced so late in the day. However it is possible that it will be defeated - traditions exist for the purpose of being broken in politics, I suspect.

 

What is your own situation, please? Please read the Bill. If it goes ahead, your visa application could be capped & terminated, whatever your agent prefers to imagine.

 

ParlInfo - Title Details

 

The main page for the Senate Inquiry is here:

 

Parliament of Australia: Senate: Committees: Legal and Constitutional Affairs Committee: Migration Amendment (Visa Capping) Bill 2010 [Provisions]

 

Please tell me about your occupation, your age and why you are - I assume - family sponsored instead of being sponsored by one of the States/Territories in Oz.

 

Cheers

 

Gill

[Guest lindyverm04]

Hi Jill

 

Thanks for all the information you keep providing us. We want to go to Brisbane (Queensland) as we have family there. Queensland state are/were not sponsoring primary school teachers, so had no other option but to go family sponsored. Primary school teachers were on SOL list at time of application in July last year!

 

So now we wait and just pray that we don't get capped!!:cry:

[mark roberts]

The whole things a mess, I was hoping to get my visa before the end of my 22 years service in the British Army, which is at the end of the year, serves me right for trying to time it perfectly. The only good thing for me is that my trade of Automotive electrician is on the new SOL, and Victoria states skilled sponsorship current form, hopefully the 1st July will bring some good news for us both.

[Guest Gollywobbler]

The whole things a mess, I was hoping to get my visa before the end of my 22 years service in the British Army, which is at the end of the year, serves me right for trying to time it perfectly. The only good thing for me is that my trade of Automotive electrician is on the new SOL, and Victoria states skilled sponsorship current form, hopefully the 1st July will bring some good news for us both.

 

 

Hi Mark

 

I completely agree with you that the whole thing is an unholy mess.

 

As far as I know, though, automotive electricians are in great demand almost everywhere in Oz.

 

Hopefully 1st July will bring some streamined processing for you.

 

Cheers

 

Gill

[Les Mighalls]

As far as I know, though, automotive electricians are in great demand almost everywhere in Oz.

 

Not to mention, frightfully expensive, too!

[Guest Gollywobbler]

Hi Jill

 

Thanks for all the information you keep providing us. We want to go to Brisbane (Queensland) as we have family there. Queensland state are/were not sponsoring primary school teachers, so had no other option but to go family sponsored. Primary school teachers were on SOL list at time of application in July last year!

 

So now we wait and just pray that we don't get capped!!:cry:

 

Hi Lindy

 

Last year, I did a load of research into the issues surrounding Teachers in Oz in order to help a couple of PiO members on here. (But please bear in mind that I have no children so I really haven't a clue about educating a youngster!)

 

The two Teachers that I was interested in both wanted to go to WA. The one who would interest you is a lady. She is a Primary School Teacher and her family live in Perth. Primary School Teachers were not in demand in Perth Metro - there seem to be hundreds of primary schools and the State-run ones seem to need hundreds of Teachers, including in Perth, according to the job-adverts on the State websitem but for some reason the State of WA wanted Teachers to head for the "rural and remote" parts of WA, mainly.

 

This Teacher phoned the WA State sponsorship people and spoke with Sue Harcus, who was the Manager at the time. Sue told her that there is a big shortage of Teachers for all age groups throughout WA (and it could be Australia wide but I am not sure.) Sue said that the reason for the problem is Retirement Pensions for Teachers.

 

Teachers who work for the State Government Depts of Ed are Public Servants, obviously. Seemingly most Public Servants are able to retire at 55 and to collect 100% of their Super, at 55, in a lump sum. Until recently, Teachers were required to wait until they were 60 or 65 but something changedwith regard to their Pension rights during 2008. The upshot was that the Teachers in WA came into line with the rest of the PS workers in WA and can now retire at 55.

 

Sue said that this has caused huge problems because loads of them suddenly retired as they were 55 or over by the time of the change and loads of the younger ones have said that they intend to retire when they are 55. Certainly, I found loads of articles on Google encouraging newly-retired Teachers in WA to continue to teach as supply teachers etc.

 

Hearing that the girl's family are in Perth, but that Victoria was offering to sponsor Primary School Teachers for the sc 176 visa, Sue Harcus advised the girl to apply for an off-list sc 176 Nomination from WA. That was granted after about a month and the girl's visa was granted not long afterwards.

 

Therefore I suggest as follows:

 

1. Do loads of research via Google Australia (just tell Google to find Google Australia and then make Google Australia your home page so that your machine will default to Google Australia as its home page whilst you sort this out.) Is there a similar problem in QLD with Teachers in the State sector suddenly retiring at 55?

 

2. Contact Smart Teachers.

 

Smart Teachers : Search for Teaching Jobs in London & UK, Australia

 

I heard about a Catholic school in WA called Nagle College. The College or the Catholic Education people have sponsored some Teachers to teach at the College and apparently Smart Teachers located the jobs and the Teachers.

 

3. It may be well worth contacting the Catholic Education Office for QLD as well, to see what they say.

 

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I am told (by my sister who lives in Perth, whose sons both attend Catholic schools) that the Catholic Education people do not insist that the Teachers must be Catholics in the primary school sector.

 

4. Plenty of private schools in Oz are independent schools but they are not Catholic schools:

 

Independent Schools Queensland

 

5. The website for the QLD Education Dept is below.

 

Department of Education and Training

 

It is worth contacting these organisations just to ask questions if nothing else, I reckon. Take little notice of their job adverts. If they want you, they can probably find space for you.

 

6. It is confirmed now that it will be possible for QLD to put Primary School Teachers into their State Migration Plan if they want to. (It is possible because although the occupation is not on the new SOL, it is on the existing ENSOL. States will be able to put occupations from the current ENSOL into their SMPs.) The current ENSOL is below:

 

http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/pdf/1121i.pdf

 

 

It has also been confirmed that in addition to the occupations on the State's SMP, each State will be allowed to nominate 100 "off-list" places. That is, the State will be able to sponsor 100 extra people whose occupations are not on the SMP but the people will get the same priority as if their occupation were on the SMP for the relevant State.

 

Having done ALL of the above - and not instead of doing all of the above, please - the boss of the QLD State Migration office is a man named Jacob Reinders. His details are below:

 

https://www.mara.gov.au/agent/ARDetails.aspx?ud=1931&BackToSearch=True&FolderID=394

 

If somebody has plainly not done their research properly and cannot tell me precisely what the story is in my own State, I would give the wannabe applicant extremely short shrift if I were in Mr Reinders' shoes.

 

However if you can make out a detailed, well-argued case for him to consider then he may be willing to consider what you say.

 

Cheers

 

Gill

[Guest lindyverm04]

THANK YOU Gill, and sorry for spelling your name incorrectly earlier!!:notworthy:You are a star!!!

[Bluecatcollectables]

Hi Gill,

 

I am 44 years old now and my occupation comes under the category of Marketing Specialist. I have an IELTS score of 8. This was actually achieved under the Academic English Test - not the easy option. I did not know at the time that the ordinary english test would have sufficed - Never mind. My sister is in Mount Eliza, Victoria and is sponsoring me. I could have gone under the Last Remaining Relative Visa, as both our parents are deceased and she is my only close relative. But my partner has a brother and sister, who, incidentally, we never see (only at Funerals and Weddings, you know the sort of thing). Therefore my sister suggested sponsoring me. At the time State sponsorship was only another option (remember priority processing was not in force at the time). Anyway, my agent suggested that I could swap to State Sponsorship, but this would mean paying again, which to be quite honest, I did not want to do, adding the fact that I may not necessarily achieve anything, as my application was already old (Dec 08) and I did not want to loose my place in the queue, if there is such a thing.

Anyway, I am hopeful that we will be looked at in the coming australian financial year. If all else fails, hope is a beautiful thing :spinny:

[Guest perry]

hi everyone...

i applied for my 886 (visa cat6) in 10 dec 2008 and still waiting for it:sad:. I hope this bill is never passed and everyone who deserves gets the visa they r after........

[Guest perry]

Hi again...

i have aquestion for GILL or anyone how can help me with it...

I had my drving licence suspended for 1 year because of drink driving about 1 year back and i had to mention that in my application forms.... Is that a matter of concern in respect to my P R application approval...

waiting for a reply....

[Bluecatcollectables]

Actually, having thought about it, maybe this Cap & Kill bill is illegal. In terms of a contract, whereby both sides are involved in a transaction - like a purchase transaction for instance, both parties are clear about the rules of involvement and a clear and concise guideline is adhered to. For one party to suddenly change the rules, within the life-span of the transaction, if you like, would legally be classed as a 'breach of contract'. The minister might be able to impletment this bill in the furture, but I have my doubts about the legality if it is applied retrospecively.

[Bluecatcollectables]

Hi again...

i have aquestion for GILL or anyone how can help me with it...

I had my drving licence suspended for 1 year because of drink driving about 1 year back and i had to mention that in my application forms.... Is that a matter of concern in respect to my P R application approval...

waiting for a reply....

 

 

Hi there,

 

It might not look very good on an application, but the offence does not come with a jail sentence, which is what the Immigration Department uses as a guideline. Also with you being honest about this, it should at least count for something. Good Luck anyway:cute:

[Ozzieland]

Actually, having thought about it, maybe this Cap & Kill bill is illegal. In terms of a contract, whereby both sides are involved in a transaction - like a purchase transaction for instance, both parties are clear about the rules of involvement and a clear and concise guideline is adhered to. For one party to suddenly change the rules, within the life-span of the transaction, if you like, would legally be classed as a 'breach of contract'. The minister might be able to impletment this bill in the furture, but I have my doubts about the legality if it is applied retrospecively.

 

I would think it would apply to international purchases as well. But in this scenario, who do you approach and if the Government unfortunately does come out with this bill the rules of the game will change. That is why we are calling this whole situation wrong because this is a totally one sided deal. You buy a product from a certain person although it is available everywhere and you are later told that you cannot have this product because we cannot afford to sell it to you. The only difference is that here the product is paid for by money as well as a commitment of our lives and the reality is told to you after waiting for a period of over 3 years and a refund of only 1/3 of the money deal !!!

[virtual_bajwa]

Hi Gill and all the members out here in this thread,

Well I am not from the 2008 but applied in on 30th Aug 2007. This has been a very long waiting game. I went thru all he processes of any application. Like Assessment,IELTS,Medical, PCC and job verification. But still I am waiting. Even after 3 years to my application I still do not know what will happen to my application. I can not think of category 6 to be started soon as there are no signs of it.

[Bluecatcollectables]

You buy a product from a certain person although it is available everywhere and you are later told that you cannot have this product because we cannot afford to sell it to you. The only difference is that here the product is paid for by money as well as a commitment of our lives and the reality is told to you after waiting for a period of over 3 years and a refund of only 1/3 of the money deal !!!

 

Yes, as you state correctly the contract has already been made, when the DIAC accepted the money. Yes, they can say you can have your money back, but what about the interest earned on it? Will they give you this back too?

 

In the shopping scenario a purchase may be brought back to the seller and they are obliged to either offer you a refund or an exchange for something similar. All well and good, but this little bit of legislation often comes with a time-limit! ie. 'you have 45 days to return the item.... blah, blah... And talking about Governments, does anybodyactually know of a case where governmental Laws were applied retrospecively - I can't think of one!

[murky]

Hi Everyone

 

Well just wondering how many of us catergory 6's applied in 2008? myself and OH applied in Dec 2008

 

As far as we are aware they have more or less sorted all cats 1-4 and are working on cat 5 so when 1st July happens and its new year 2010/2011 they might actually start to process Cat 6

 

If we can work out how many there is of us we might have some kind of idea if we'll get pocessed 2010/2011 (thats if we dont get capped and ceased first!!!!)

 

Please can you reply with dates application lodged and your details etc

 

Many thanks

 

Claire

 

 

Hi everyone,

 

I'm new to this site. I applied on a 175 as a plumber in June 2008, hoping to go to NSW. Myself, my OH and 2 teenage kids did police checks and medicals in May 2009. We were then told a few weeks later that we would be put on hold til 2012. We could not believe our luck. We hope things start moving again soon for all us catagory 6 applicants.

 

murky

[Bluecatcollectables]

And I consider myself unlucky to be caught up in all this. So sorry to hear about your story! I imagine when they get to us Category 6 applicants, you should be on the very top of their list!

[Guest malaysia2008]

Hi All,

My application was lodged in September 2008, under subclass 475 "ASCO 2231-11". family sponsored and provisional.

Any1 can explain 2 me what do the categories mean and which category I'm in.

Hopefully July will bring to all of us the good news that we r waiting 4..

Many thanks in advance..

[murky]

And I consider myself unlucky to be caught up in all this. So sorry to hear about your story! I imagine when they get to us Category 6 applicants, you should be on the very top of their list!

 

Thanks

 

We thought we had our first glimmer of hope on Friday morning, when i checked our application status on the gov website. Everything still says required on the checklist and says that they have received police checks and meds. I clicked at the bottom on visa status and the 'no current visa' had disappeared. So we got all giddy thinking our case was being looked at. But nooooo it was put back on the day after so back to square one. :confused:

 

Murky