Kaleem Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Hi all, I was sponsored for 190 by Tasmania and I moved here in April 2019. My family and I loved it and we were very happy. But unfortunately, some 8 months ago I lost my job due to covid and hasn't been able to find work in my field of work. I have tried to survive without job for 8 months but it is becoming increasingly difficult and moving interstate seems like the only options. I am now planning to move to mainland but I was wondering if this will cause any troubles in the future e.g. citizenship application and resident return visas etc since I will be moving before completing two years commitment ? Some people have said that there is no condition attached to the visa to spend two whole years in the nominating state but I still want to be sure. Any help is appreciated. Regards 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausvisitor Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 3 hours ago, Kaleem said: Hi all, I was sponsored for 190 by Tasmania and I moved here in April 2019. My family and I loved it and we were very happy. But unfortunately, some 8 months ago I lost my job due to covid and hasn't been able to find work in my field of work. I have tried to survive without job for 8 months but it is becoming increasingly difficult and moving interstate seems like the only options. I am now planning to move to mainland but I was wondering if this will cause any troubles in the future e.g. citizenship application and resident return visas etc since I will be moving before completing two years commitment ? Some people have said that there is no condition attached to the visa to spend two whole years in the nominating state but I still want to be sure. Any help is appreciated. Regards If you moved to TAS in April 2019 then you are only a month away from 2 years anyway, I'd imagine by the time you sorted an out-of-state job you'd be at two years anyway Or am I missing something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaleem Posted February 24, 2021 Author Share Posted February 24, 2021 5 hours ago, Ausvisitor said: If you moved to TAS in April 2019 then you are only a month away from 2 years anyway, I'd imagine by the time you sorted an out-of-state job you'd be at two years anyway Or am I missing something? I am actually all sorted to move next week. So it will be a month short of 2 years cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNinja Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 11 hours ago, Kaleem said: Some people have said that there is no condition attached to the visa to spend two whole years in the nominating state Surely then the via should be called 'skilled independent' rather than 'state sponsored? Why don't you defer your move for 1 month? I would imagine this would be the safest play, rather than risk having a visa cancellation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaleem Posted February 25, 2021 Author Share Posted February 25, 2021 This is what I found on Tasmania immigration website. Can I move to another state? As a nominee you agreed to make all reasonable efforts to work and live in Tasmania, but ultimately the decision to move interstate is yours. We do not provide waiver or release letters and cannot enter into discussions about your request to move interstate. The Tasmanian Government is not permitted to provide migration advice or an indication of your future visa or Australian Citizenship pathways. Please contact a migration agent or Department of Home Affairs if you require further clarification in relation to your visa obligations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaleem Posted February 25, 2021 Author Share Posted February 25, 2021 3 hours ago, DukeNinja said: Surely then the via should be called 'skilled independent' rather than 'state sponsored? Why don't you defer your move for 1 month? I would imagine this would be the safest play, rather than risk having a visa cancellation. because I have work offer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNinja Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Kaleem said: because I have work offer Cancelled visa = no work offer anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toots Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Sorry things didn't work out for you here @Kaleem. Very best wishes to you and your family with the move to that big island north of Tasmania. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaleem Posted February 25, 2021 Author Share Posted February 25, 2021 6 hours ago, Toots said: Sorry things didn't work out for you here @Kaleem. Very best wishes to you and your family with the move to that big island north of Tasmania. Thanks Toots. It’s really a huge setback for my family and me. We loved this place and made some really good friends. I’m hopeful that if I ever get a work offer from Tassie in future we all would be very happy to move back to Devonport 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domo Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Apparently it's a 'moral obligation' to stay in your nominated state. There is nothing legally binding you to stay in the state of tasmania or any other state, that is my understanding, which I was informed by my immigration agent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaleem Posted February 25, 2021 Author Share Posted February 25, 2021 59 minutes ago, Domo said: Apparently it's a 'moral obligation' to stay in your nominated state. There is nothing legally binding you to stay in the state of tasmania or any other state, that is my understanding, which I was informed by my immigration agent. I talked to the department of home affairs yesterday and they said refer to your visa conditions on VEVO. On further probing they said that 190 doesn’t have any condition binding the visa holder to the nominating state. It is upto the individual to make the call. But the state nominates the candidate so he can stay in the state. I also emailed the state growth department of Tasmania and they said they don’t issue release letter and wished me luck for the move. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domo Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 22 minutes ago, Kaleem said: I talked to the department of home affairs yesterday and they said refer to your visa conditions on VEVO. On further probing they said that 190 doesn’t have any condition binding the visa holder to the nominating state. It is upto the individual to make the call. But the state nominates the candidate so he can stay in the state. I also emailed the state growth department of Tasmania and they said they don’t issue release letter and wished me luck for the move. That further verifies my statement, my immigration agencies statement, and now the departments statement. Best of luck to you and your family, mate! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Domo said: Apparently it's a 'moral obligation' to stay in your nominated state. There is nothing legally binding you to stay in the state of tasmania or any other state, that is my understanding, which I was informed by my immigration agent. This is true. Sadly, the reason it's so hard to get a 190 visa now is because so many people flouted their moral obligations in the past. The states got fed up of people promising to live and work in the state, and then buggering off. Hence the drastic cut in the number of 190 visas being offered and the move to the 489 and now the 491 instead. A case of the dishonest few spoiling it for everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domo Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Marisawright said: This is true. Sadly, the reason it's so hard to get a 190 visa now is because so many people flouted their moral obligations in the past. The states got fed up of people promising to live and work in the state, and then buggering off. Hence the drastic cut in the number of 190 visas being offered and the move to the 489 and now the 491 instead. A case of the dishonest few spoiling it for everyone else. I'm sorry, which occupation did you fall under when you applied for your permanent visa? Or were you born an australian citizen? Edited February 26, 2021 by Domo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domo Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Marisawright said: Edited February 26, 2021 by Domo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Domo said: I'm sorry, which occupation did you fall under when you applied for your permanent visa? Or are you an australian citizen? I'm a citizen these days but I migrated over 30 years ago. Let me be clear, I have no beef with the OP, or anyone else who arrives on a 190 visa then does their best to make a life in the state they've promised to live in. But there have been so many people who have simply lied, and never had any intention of living in that state. They probably thought it was no big deal, but the result HAS been a big deal, for the hundreds of people who now have to put up with all the disadvantages of the 491 instead. And if people go on abusing the 190, the states will only become even more reluctant to offer them. Edited February 26, 2021 by Marisawright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domo Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Just now, Marisawright said: I'm a citizen these days but I migrated over 30 years ago. Let me be clear, I have no beef with the OP, or anyone else who arrives on a 190 visa then does their best to make a life in the state they've promised to live in. But there have been so many people who have simply lied, and never had any intention of living in that state. They probably thought it was no big deal, but the result HAS been a big deal, for the hundreds of people who now have to put up with all the disadvantages of the 491 instead. Please don't deflect the question, which occupation did you apply under and which state was it for? Please inform us on how you became a naturalized Australian citizen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mt9754 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 I would do what you think is right. Personally I would think being 2 months short due to lack of employment opportunities is morally ok. If you were looking to move interstate before even setting in the state, or 6 months in, then that would be a totally different matter. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Domo said: Please don't deflect the question, which occupation did you apply under and which state was it for? Please inform us on how you became a naturalized Australian citizen. What business is it of yours? My migration experience was over 30 years ago when it was all very different, and therefore not relevant to your experience. In fact, I don't even recall there being a choice of visas we could get - we just filled in the forms ourselves, which were fairly simple, and that was that. Getting citizenship was also easier, with a waiting time of 2 years. I joined these forums to do research when we were planning to go in the opposite direction. There used to be a special section of these forums devoted to people returning to the UK, which I found very helpful. It didn't work out but I have stayed because it's a sociable place and I am sometimes able to offer help (in both directions). In the process, I've learned a great deal about the migration process, which I find fascinating. Edited February 26, 2021 by Marisawright 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calNgary Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 I have tidied this thread up and removed some personal comments. Can we please try and stay on track and respond to the OP's post without going off in a different direction. Thanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calNgary Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 On 25/02/2021 at 00:10, Kaleem said: Hi all, I was sponsored for 190 by Tasmania and I moved here in April 2019. My family and I loved it and we were very happy. But unfortunately, some 8 months ago I lost my job due to covid and hasn't been able to find work in my field of work. I have tried to survive without job for 8 months but it is becoming increasingly difficult and moving interstate seems like the only options. I am now planning to move to mainland but I was wondering if this will cause any troubles in the future e.g. citizenship application and resident return visas etc since I will be moving before completing two years commitment ? Some people have said that there is no condition attached to the visa to spend two whole years in the nominating state but I still want to be sure. Any help is appreciated. Regards Hi Kaleem I cannot see an issue at all with you making the move, as im sure your now aware it is just a moral obligation to stay in the State that sponsored and you are able to move if you cannot find work, so after 8 months of trying i dont think anyone at all would blame you for accepting a job offer in another State. Lots of luck with the move and good luck in your new job Cal x 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaleem Posted February 27, 2021 Author Share Posted February 27, 2021 22 hours ago, calNgary said: Hi Kaleem I cannot see an issue at all with you making the move, as im sure your now aware it is just a moral obligation to stay in the State that sponsored and you are able to move if you cannot find work, so after 8 months of trying i dont think anyone at all would blame you for accepting a job offer in another State. Lots of luck with the move and good luck in your new job Cal x Thanks Cal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akram Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Dear All, I have state-sponsored 190 ACT and I have not yet made my first entry yet because of COVID. My company has offered me an internal transfer of job to Sydney. I am worried to accept the offer because of the obligation to stay for 2 years in the ACT. I am sure if I write to ACT they will inform me that I have not made any efforts to stay in the ACT. What shall I do any suggestions? Also, will it affect my RRV and citizenship if I apply in the future? Shall I accept the offer to stay & work in Sydney & then try for a job in the ACT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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