Helenmc Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Hello,I’m hoping to migrate to aus to carry out my bachelors degree in nursing, but I’m not sure if I will be able to get a student grant.I’d be a mature student at 36 and I’m a parent of one... I’ve looked on the university of the Sunshine Coast and it states that uk students wouldn’t be able to apply for the student loan. Has anyone accessed any other grant in order to pay for the course fees. Thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amber Snowball Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 23 minutes ago, Helenmc said: Hello, I’m hoping to migrate to aus to carry out my bachelors degree in nursing, but I’m not sure if I will be able to get a student grant. I’d be a mature student at 36 and I’m a parent of one... I’ve looked on the university of the Sunshine Coast and it states that uk students wouldn’t be able to apply for the student loan. Has anyone accessed any other grant in order to pay for the course fees. Thanks in advance If you will have permanent residency you pay home fees but have to pay them up front, no government help to pay them. Don’t think you would be eligible for austudy which is a means tested payment for students over 25. If you are on a temporary visa then you pay international fees and definitely have to support yourself. At least this is my understanding but I could be wrong. Centrelink has a tool you can put your information into to see if you are eligible for any payments. Search Centrelink and then click students and the tool is in there. Others may be more across this and be able to confirm details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helenmc Posted June 28, 2019 Author Share Posted June 28, 2019 Aww thanks... the course is $26,600 per year and it’s a 3 year course [emoji30]. I’ll have a look on that site. Thanks again x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amber Snowball Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Just now, Helenmc said: Aww thanks... the course is $26,600 per year and it’s a 3 year course . I’ll have a look on that site. Thanks again x Yes eye watering aren’t they! Universities love an international student! Are you coming on a temporary visa just to study? If you are you need to be aware of child care / school fees for temporary residents in some states as well. I have no idea how people do it, never been that rich! Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helenmc Posted June 28, 2019 Author Share Posted June 28, 2019 There’s school fees [emoji30], yep don’t think that’s going to be an option anymore. Might have to study in the uk and come out in 3 years. X Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amber Snowball Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 15 minutes ago, Helenmc said: There’s school fees , yep don’t think that’s going to be an option anymore. Might have to study in the uk and come out in 3 years. X I’ll tag @Quoll as she is pretty au fait with states and if they charge school fees. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Helenmc said: There’s school fees , yep don’t think that’s going to be an option anymore. Might have to study in the uk and come out in 3 years. X ARe you looking at a Student Visa or something else visa-wise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helenmc Posted June 28, 2019 Author Share Posted June 28, 2019 Student visa if possible. X Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoll Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 If you are a student then your child will have to pay fees as the dependent of a student in all states. They vary according to state but in Qld this year a primary student costs $271 per week, going up to $277 pw next year so around $10k pa (on top of your own international student fees). Also remember that as a student if you needed to work to supplement your income you would only be allowed to work 20 hpw - if you can find a job at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helenmc Posted June 28, 2019 Author Share Posted June 28, 2019 Wow!!! Thankyou for this, I honestly don’t think this is an option any longer. I appreciate your advice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 49 minutes ago, Helenmc said: Wow!!! Thankyou for this, I honestly don’t think this is an option any longer. I appreciate your advice I think you've wise to rethink it. Frankly, coming on a student visa is only feasible if you're single, and even then it's tough unless you've got rich parents (a lot of international students in Australia are from rich Asian families). The fees are very high. You are allowed to work part-time, but good luck finding an employer who wants to hire you - you can't be flexible with your hours and you're only on a temp visa, good luck with that. Even if you manage to survive financially till the end of your course, there's no guarantee you'll get a permanent visa at the end of it. Depending on the course, you may need to get a Graduate visa for another two years to get the necessary work experience. Then you've got to apply for a permanent visa and pray they haven't changed the rules in the meantime (it happens a lot). You were asking about jobs in Hervey Bay recently - does this mean that you aren't even eligible to get a PR visa or is it just that you can't find a job in your current occupation in that area? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 6 hours ago, Helenmc said: There’s school fees , yep don’t think that’s going to be an option anymore. Might have to study in the uk and come out in 3 years. X As a student, you will also be limited to only 20 hours per week work during term time. - I really think it would be in your best interest to study in the UK. Additionally, having studied in Aus, this won't automatically guarantee that you can stay - if migration is your ultimate goal then training first in the UK and following that pathway may have more chance of success. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helenmc Posted June 29, 2019 Author Share Posted June 29, 2019 I think you've wise to rethink it. Frankly, coming on a student visa is only feasible if you're single, and even then it's tough unless you've got rich parents (a lot of international students in Australia are from rich Asian families). The fees are very high. You are allowed to work part-time, but good luck finding an employer who wants to hire you - you can't be flexible with your hours and you're only on a temp visa, good luck with that. Even if you manage to survive financially till the end of your course, there's no guarantee you'll get a permanent visa at the end of it. Depending on the course, you may need to get a Graduate visa for another two years to get the necessary work experience. Then you've got to apply for a permanent visa and pray they haven't changed the rules in the meantime (it happens a lot). You were asking about jobs in Hervey Bay recently - does this mean that you aren't even eligible to get a PR visa or is it just that you can't find a job in your current occupation in that area? In a best case scenario I would love to come and work... but I only have a diploma in health studies and a city and guilds level 2 in supporting vulnerable people, oh and 13 years work experience in youth homelessness and management. Although my job role fits into primary health care manager you require a bachelors degree to get a positive skill set through VETASSESS. My next option was skill set community worker as some of my experience fits into that break down but there’s also criteria that in my qualifications that don’t 100% match. There is a chance I could get a 2 year visa as community worker is only on the short skill set as primary manager is 4 year.... but....It’s $700 for the skills assessment through ACWA and its just money that I can’t afford to loose. I have researched and researched.All the skills jobs (that offer sponsorship) are in Sydney!! It’s not really a place I want to be.That’s why I looked into study but there’s no way I can afford $80,000 plus school fees. I honestly don’t know the next step, I have applied for loads of jobs that I know that I have the skills to do but they don’t offer sponsorship.If anyone out there could help in anyway I would appreciate it. Thanks so much x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Helenmc said: In a best case scenario I would love to come and work... but I only have a diploma in health studies and a city and guilds level 2 in supporting vulnerable people, oh and 13 years work experience in youth homelessness and management. Although my job role fits into primary health care manager you require a bachelors degree to get a positive skill set through VETASSESS. My next option was skill set community worker as some of my experience fits into that break down but there’s also criteria that in my qualifications that don’t 100% match. There is a chance I could get a 2 year visa as community worker is only on the short skill set as primary manager is 4 year.... but.... It’s $700 for the skills assessment through ACWA and its just money that I can’t afford to loose. So, to summarise: Your occupation is on the skilled list for a 189 visa (a PR or permanent resident visa) but you don't have the required qualifications. Therefore your only option is to go to university and get the bachelor's degree. You would get credits (sometimes called "advanced standing") for your existing qualifications, so you wouldn't have to do the full degree. It's worth checking with some universities, you may be surprised how much credit you can get. Then you might have to work for a couple of years to get the required experience, because experience often doesn't count until you've got the qualification - but again, that's worth checking so you know where you stand. That's your only option, I'm afraid. There is NO point in looking for a 2 year visa, or for an employer to sponsor you. Both of those will only get you a short-term contract. At the end of it, you may be eligible to apply for PR - but ONLY if you have the required qualifications, which you won't have, so you'll be back where you started. There's no magic that happens just because you're already living in Australia, it's exactly the same. You'll have to go back home and start all over again. I know it's hard to accept that there's no other way, but the hard fact is that it's $%^** difficult to emigrate to Australia, and the majority of the population simply aren't eligible to do so. Australia is very, very fussy these days because it's not desperate for people any more. Edited June 29, 2019 by Marisawright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helenmc Posted June 29, 2019 Author Share Posted June 29, 2019 So, to summarise: Your occupation is on the skilled list for a 189 visa (a PR or permanent resident visa) but you don't have the required qualifications. Therefore your only option is to go to university and get the bachelor's degree. You would get credits (sometimes called "advanced standing") for your existing qualifications, so you wouldn't have to do the full degree. It's worth checking with some universities, you may be surprised how much credit you can get. Then you might have to work for a couple of years to get the required experience, because experience often doesn't count until you've got the qualification - but again, that's worth checking so you know where you stand. That's your only option, I'm afraid. There is NO point in looking for a 2 year visa, or for an employer to sponsor you. Both of those will only get you a short-term contract. At the end of it, you may be eligible to apply for PR - but ONLY if you have the required qualifications, which you won't have, so you'll be back where you started. There's no magic that happens just because you're already living in Australia, it's exactly the same. You'll have to go back home and start all over again. I know it's hard to accept that there's no other way, but the hard fact is that it's $%^** difficult to emigrate to Australia, and the majority of the population simply aren't eligible to do so. Australia is very, very fussy these days because it's not desperate for people any more.Thankyou so much for the help... yep, suppose I need to put by dream on hold for 3 years at least. Thanks again x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoll Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 The other thing to bear in mind is that your child’s father will need to give permission for them to leave the country and some dads won’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helenmc Posted June 29, 2019 Author Share Posted June 29, 2019 Yes he’s given me this already, he has very very little contact with him. That was one of the 1st things I got haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 46 minutes ago, Helenmc said: , suppose I need to put by dream on hold for 3 years at least. Thanks again x Yes, that's about the size of it. The idea of the temporary/employer sponsored visas are tempting, but it's too much expense and upheaval when you've got children to consider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon the Hat Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 On 29/06/2019 at 09:20, Helenmc said: Thankyou so much for the help... yep, suppose I need to put by dream on hold for 3 years at least. Thanks again x Slightly late here, but also be clear that if you study nursing, you will have to work after you qualify in the UK before you can get a visa as a nurse, it isn't just a case of come as a newly qualified graduate nurse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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