Sarathkumar Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 What happens if one gets Victorian state nomination and got 190 Visa ..but not able to find a job offer in Victoria within two year of compulsory stay in the nominated occupation? Is it possible to go to other state if a job is offered there without completing 2 years of compulsory stay in the nominated state? Any input is much appreciated. Thanks Sarath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammygirl Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 They are being much stricter about this now and have cancelled visas. BUT. if you can show you have genuinely tried to find work and have a possibility of work in another state (preferably a regional area) you can ask to be released from this obligation by your sponsoring state. I woulnt just assume that because people have moved in the past with no consequences that this is still the case. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhand Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 3 hours ago, Sarathkumar said: What happens if one gets Victorian state nomination and got 190 Visa ..but not able to find a job offer in Victoria within two year of compulsory stay in the nominated occupation? Is it possible to go to other state if a job is offered there without completing 2 years of compulsory stay in the nominated state? Any input is much appreciated. Thanks Sarath What you committed to is: that you and any of your dependants must live in Victoria for the first two years of your visa. This two-year period begins when you enter Australia permanently on the Skilled Nominated visa (subclass 190), or if you are already onshore, when your visa is granted by the Department of Home Affairs. It’s not mandatory to continue to work in your nominated occupation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarathkumar Posted February 25, 2019 Author Share Posted February 25, 2019 Rammygirl: what if I can not get a job in materials research (my specilization) in Victoria even after a genuine effort (say for eg: after getting 10 rejection letter in victoria)..can I move to sydney of I can get a job offer from there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoll Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Sarathkumar said: Rammygirl: what if I can not get a job in materials research (my specilization) in Victoria even after a genuine effort (say for eg: after getting 10 rejection letter in victoria)..can I move to sydney of I can get a job offer from there? Only 10 rejections? They'd probably say you're not really trying. Give it 6 months then ask them for permission (with rejections to support) to move interstate. As had been said, it doesn't have to be in your area of specialisation, any job will do to start you off. Edited February 25, 2019 by Quoll 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammygirl Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 I agree 10 rejections isn’t a lot really. I guess there aren’t many positions open though. You need to apply for related jobs that will get you a foot in the door and approach possible employers directly, jobs are not always advertised. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karstedt Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 You are not required to work in your occupation.... or at all under the 190 LOL. They may be happy to tell you to piss off unless you have tried getting jobs stocking shelves too. After 2 years however, you are free to move, even if you were under/unemployed the entire time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarathkumar Posted February 26, 2019 Author Share Posted February 26, 2019 Do you know by any chance the VIC state can give the release letter...I mean under what circumstances they usually do this?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aus_expert Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 (edited) On 27/02/2019 at 08:16, Sarathkumar said: Do you know by any chance the VIC state can give the release letter...I mean under what circumstances they usually do this?? Release letter? It's difficult! It is a condition of your visa to live in Vic and it cannot be changed. Moreover, your future employer from NSW or QLD ( any other state than VIC) when they carry out VEVO check prior giving you an employment offer, they would know that you are sponsored by a Victorian state government and legally are not allowed you to offer a job. All the best! Edited March 5, 2019 by aus_expert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aus_expert Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, aus_expert said: 1 Edited March 5, 2019 by aus_expert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 45 minutes ago, aus_expert said: Release letter? It's difficult! It is a condition of your visa to live in Vic and it cannot be changed. Moreover, your future employer from NSW or QLD ( any other state than VIC) when they carry out VEVO check prior giving you an employment offer, they would know that you are sponsored by a Victorian state government and legally are not allowed you to offer a job. All the best! Incorrect I'm afraid. The 190 is a moral agreement, not a legal one, and there is nothing to legally prevent any employer in any State or Territory from making a job offer to a 190 holder in another State. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammygirl Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Nemesis said: Incorrect I'm afraid. The 190 is a moral agreement, not a legal one, and there is nothing to legally prevent any employer in any State or Territory from making a job offer to a 190 holder in another State. Have you checked recent posts by agents. States have been tightening up and people have had visas cancelled for not living in the state. Also they are questioning this when applying for citizenship now. it is because people were not staying in sponsoring states that this has happened a loophole closed. It is a condition on the visa and states are monitoring it. Yes employers can make an offer but if a visa holder moves they can jeopardise their visa. Edited March 5, 2019 by rammygirl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 25 minutes ago, rammygirl said: Have you checked recent posts by agents. States have been tightening up and people have had visas cancelled for not living in the state. Also they are questioning this when applying for citizenship now. it is because people were not staying in sponsoring states that this has happened a loophole closed. It is a condition on the visa and states are monitoring it. Yes employers can make an offer but if a visa holder moves they can jeopardise their visa. I'm well aware of the fact that finally States are tightening up on the moral obligation. I've read all the posts by agents. However it is not correct to say that it is "not legal for an employer to offer a job to a 190 holder in another State." That is incorrect, as I said in my post nd I stand by it. I made no comment on the moral obligation side of it (which I personally think has been far too lax for far too long). I merely corrected the statement about the legal position of the prospective employer. Whether the applicant should accept that job is a whole different ball game which I chose not to dive in to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammygirl Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, Nemesis said: I'm well aware of the fact that finally States are tightening up on the moral obligation. I've read all the posts by agents. However it is not correct to say that it is "not legal for an employer to offer a job to a 190 holder in another State." That is incorrect, as I said in my post nd I stand by it. I made no comment on the moral obligation side of it (which I personally think has been far too lax for far too long). I merely corrected the statement about the legal position of the prospective employer. Whether the applicant should accept that job is a whole different ball game which I chose not to dive in to. The first line of you post was saying it was only a moral agreement though, rather than a condition imposed by the state. I did agree that there are no obligations on employers. 6 hours ago, Nemesis said: Incorrect I'm afraid. The 190 is a moral agreement, not a legal one, and there is nothing to legally prevent any employer in any State or Territory from making a job offer to a 190 holder in another State. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 2 hours ago, rammygirl said: The first line of you post was saying it was only a moral agreement though, rather than a condition imposed by the state. I did agree that there are no obligations on employers. I stated that it is a moral agreement, not a legal one. If it were a legal obligation then the 190 would be cancelled if someone moved away from the State and they would not be eligible for citizenship due to them breaching their visa conditions and being onshore illegally - ie visa fraud. However, as things stand, although States are finally seeing sense, it is still not a legal obligation to remain in the sponsoring State or Territory and even the moral obligation is not yet widely enforced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aus_expert Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 8 hours ago, Nemesis said: I stated that it is a moral agreement, not a legal one. If it were a legal obligation then the 190 would be cancelled if someone moved away from the State and they would not be eligible for citizenship due to them breaching their visa conditions and being onshore illegally - ie visa fraud. However, as things stand, although States are finally seeing sense, it is still not a legal obligation to remain in the sponsoring State or Territory and even the moral obligation is not yet widely enforced. I am here to give the best possible advice and I stand by my comments. I do know for the fact that employers in NSW are refusing to offer you a job if you are sponsored by any other state. I am not going into nitty- gritty and give examples here. It’s a no brainer guys- you are SPONSORED by a state for your PR. Ofcourse , you’ll have consequences if you don’t abide by the rules ! Doesn’t matter LEGAL OR MORAL ! You’ll have consequences ! All the the best who are involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 6 hours ago, aus_expert said: I am here to give the best possible advice and I stand by my comments. I do know for the fact that employers in NSW are refusing to offer you a job if you are sponsored by any other state. I am not going into nitty- gritty and give examples here. It’s a no brainer guys- you are SPONSORED by a state for your PR. Ofcourse , you’ll have consequences if you don’t abide by the rules ! Doesn’t matter LEGAL OR MORAL ! You’ll have consequences ! All the the best who are involved. I don't have an issue with their refusal to offer jobs because of the State Sponsorship by another State. 'Refusal to offer' is different to it being 'illegal'. My only point was that it is not illegal to offer a job to someone holding a 190 for a different State. Simple, straightforward statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 9 hours ago, aus_expert said: I am here to give the best possible advice and I stand by my comments. I do know for the fact that employers in NSW are refusing to offer you a job if you are sponsored by any other state. I am not going into nitty- gritty and give examples here. It’s a no brainer guys- you are SPONSORED by a state for your PR. Ofcourse , you’ll have consequences if you don’t abide by the rules ! Doesn’t matter LEGAL OR MORAL ! You’ll have consequences ! All the the best who are involved. Are you a migration agent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shisman Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 (edited) Hi All, I just received my citizenship approval today. Timelines below Application Lodged Date: 30 March 2019 Received Interview/Test email: 1 July 2019 Interview/Test Date: 14 Aug 2019 Citizenship Approved:15 Aug 2019 Council : Wyndham Ceremony Mail Received: Waiting Ceremony Date: Waiting Here is where I stayed over the last 4 years in order with 190 from VIC Mar 2015 - Nov 2015 - QLD Nov 2015-Jun 2018- NSW Jul 2018- Till date -VIC Employers don't even care what type of visa you have. Lots of scaremongers told me not to do it. Here I am after 4 years. But from what I read in latest immigration news, they might make it stricter Thanks Shisman Edited August 15, 2019 by shisman error 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 55 minutes ago, shisman said: Hi All, I just received my citizenship approval today. Timelines below Application Lodged Date: 30 March 2019 Received Interview/Test email: 1 July 2019 Interview/Test Date: 14 Aug 2019 Citizenship Approved:15 Aug 2019 Council : Wyndham Ceremony Mail Received: Waiting Ceremony Date: Waiting Here is where I stayed over the last 4 years in order with 190 from VIC Mar 2015 - Nov 2015 - QLD Nov 2015-Jun 2018- NSW Jul 2018- Till date -VIC Employers don't even care what type of visa you have. Lots of scaremongers told me not to do it. Here I am after 4 years. But from what I read in latest immigration news, they might make it stricter Thanks Shisman so you are openly saying that you broke your commitment to VIC - and in doing so robbed another migrant of the chance to live there.. Glad you are so pleased with yourself that you are shouting about your lack of morals . The sooner the 190 s abolished, the better, with cheats like you around. For the info of other prospective frauds, migration agents have reported on this forum that if you break the conditions of the 190 you do know risk having your visa cancelled. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martina Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 2 hours ago, shisman said: Hi All, I just received my citizenship approval today. Timelines below Application Lodged Date: 30 March 2019 Received Interview/Test email: 1 July 2019 Interview/Test Date: 14 Aug 2019 Citizenship Approved:15 Aug 2019 Council : Wyndham Ceremony Mail Received: Waiting Ceremony Date: Waiting Here is where I stayed over the last 4 years in order with 190 from VIC Mar 2015 - Nov 2015 - QLD Nov 2015-Jun 2018- NSW Jul 2018- Till date -VIC Employers don't even care what type of visa you have. Lots of scaremongers told me not to do it. Here I am after 4 years. But from what I read in latest immigration news, they might make it stricter Thanks Shisman It's because of people like you that the government is making it harder and harder for others to migrate. There's nothing to be proud of on your side. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shisman Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Its amazing to see that every one is giving their two cents. I have done nothing illegal and you all don't even know what's the reason I didn't even move initially. I had kept the authorities informed every six months with the reason and it was acknowledged as well. This was meant for those who had a similar plight to mine. Thanks Shisman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 1 hour ago, shisman said: Its amazing to see that every one is giving their two cents. I have done nothing illegal and you all don't even know what's the reason I didn't even move initially. I had kept the authorities informed every six months with the reason and it was acknowledged as well. This was meant for those who had a similar plight to mine. Thanks Shisman If you went about things the right way by informing the sponsoring state that you needed to move, then there is no problem with your action. However you should tell people that you did so, not give the impression - as you have above -.- that people can just up sticks and move, abandoning their sponsorship Check out recent posts on 190 by agents - they state that people may well have their visas cancelled if they abandon their moral obligation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enam Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Hi experts members in this conversation, I need a little advise, is there any issues for submitting two EOI (SA & Vic) at the same time? Thanks in advance Enam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samlakin Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 On 15/08/2019 at 19:51, Nemesis said: so you are openly saying that you broke your commitment to VIC - and in doing so robbed another migrant of the chance to live there.. Glad you are so pleased with yourself that you are shouting about your lack of morals . The sooner the 190 s abolished, the better, with cheats like you around. For the info of other prospective frauds, migration agents have reported on this forum that if you break the conditions of the 190 you do know risk having your visa cancelled. Give it a rest Jesus! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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