Brianm93 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Hi, Im looking for some help regarding moving to Australia. I’m a gas engineer, qualified to SVQ level 3 in domestic natural gas installation and maintenance. I completed my apprenticeship through a company doing both on site and college work. I’ve never done any plumbing at all, so don’t have any plumbing qualifications etc... this worries me as I’ve seen gas engineers saying they’ve opted to go down the plumbers route for applying as it’s easier? i’ve been reading a lot of other people’s posts about the difficulties of applying and the steps which you need to go through to finally land in Oz successfully. I want to move over in the next 3 years with my partner and young son, somewhere in NSW. I’m aware of the points system, that there is tests to be taken, evidence of work to be given. I just don’t know where to start, any help would be appreciated. cheers Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reevo39 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Hi Brian, I worked for British Gas for 12 years as a service and repair engineer on appliances, applied for a skilled 190 visa under the code for gas fitter. We are in Sydney in NSW, however there is only seasonal work (3-4 months) with gas fires, duct heaters etc. Hardly anyone has central heating as it's too hot....I've managed to get a job with a local plumbing and heating firm, but your correct I'll mainly be doing plumbing with I've not much experience in (bathrooms etc).....being honest I don't know what everyone is having problems. We applied for EOI I'm February 2017, sent off evidence got TRA (work evidence-qualifications etc) in March, had invite for visa in may and filled and sent everything over and it was granted on August 11st. We've been here since 5th November and would deffo recommend it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reevo39 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 There is no test to take If u can gain over 60 points. I was lucky as had over 10 years experience and under 33 years old...u may have to sit an English test (ielts) if u require the extra points...evidence u need is basically pay slips, contracts, references from managers etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianm93 Posted January 19, 2018 Author Share Posted January 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, reevo39 said: There is no test to take If u can gain over 60 points. I was lucky as had over 10 years experience and under 33 years old...u may have to sit an English test (ielts) if u require the extra points...evidence u need is basically pay slips, contracts, references from managers etc Thanks for reply, it does sound easy and straight forward the way you’ve put it, I hope It goes as smoothly for me... so if you get 60 points you don’t have to take a theory or practical test on your skills? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reevo39 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 The points is only for the visa to be granted mate. Once u get here, u can apply for something called RPL recognised prior learning(basically our qualifications are recognised visa wise but not for work). You can apply before you get out here, I've been advised to start working for a company under their licence as a gas fitter and plumber and then apply while I'm working gaining experience....you have to then go to TAFE (college) and do gap training and maybe an exam to get your own licence so u can work for yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianm93 Posted January 19, 2018 Author Share Posted January 19, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, reevo39 said: The points is only for the visa to be granted mate. Once u get here, u can apply for something called RPL recognised prior learning(basically our qualifications are recognised visa wise but not for work). You can apply before you get out here, I've been advised to start working for a company under their licence as a gas fitter and plumber and then apply while I'm working gaining experience....you have to then go to TAFE (college) and do gap training and maybe an exam to get your own licence so u can work for yourself. Ah ok that makes sense. I’ve just seen a lot of conflicting comments on other websites about it. Saying that a practical and theory exam on my skills must be done before I can enter Oz. Edited January 19, 2018 by Brianm93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianm93 Posted January 19, 2018 Author Share Posted January 19, 2018 19 minutes ago, reevo39 said: The points is only for the visa to be granted mate. Once u get here, u can apply for something called RPL recognised prior learning(basically our qualifications are recognised visa wise but not for work). You can apply before you get out here, I've been advised to start working for a company under their licence as a gas fitter and plumber and then apply while I'm working gaining experience....you have to then go to TAFE (college) and do gap training and maybe an exam to get your own licence so u can work for yourself. I’ve just realised after doing a bit of reading that the 189 visa does require a skills test to be carried out, but the 190 visa doesn’t require it. I might try and go for the 190 visa, It means first 2 years you need to live and work in NSW but I want to live and work in Sydney anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 53 minutes ago, Brianm93 said: I’ve just realised after doing a bit of reading that the 189 visa does require a skills test to be carried out, but the 190 visa doesn’t require it. I might try and go for the 190 visa, It means first 2 years you need to live and work in NSW but I want to live and work in Sydney anyway. Have you read the requirements for the 190? https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/trav/visa-1/190- You must: have a relevant occupationhave a suitable skills assessment for the occupation meet the points test pass mark of 60 points be nominated by a state or territory government agency be under 45 years of age at time of invitation have Competent English be invited by us to apply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianm93 Posted January 19, 2018 Author Share Posted January 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Nemesis said: Have you read the requirements for the 190? https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/trav/visa-1/190- You must: have a relevant occupationhave a suitable skills assessment for the occupation meet the points test pass mark of 60 points be nominated by a state or territory government agency be under 45 years of age at time of invitation have Competent English be invited by us to apply. I had read over it a few times, sometimes looking over things for hours can fry your mind, thanks for pointing that out for me. I think I’ll stick with the 189 application Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 13 hours ago, Brianm93 said: I had read over it a few times, sometimes looking over things for hours can fry your mind, thanks for pointing that out for me. I think I’ll stick with the 189 application I know what you mean, you look at someting for hours but sometimes youonly see what your mind wants you to see! If you qualify for a 189 that is definietly the better one as you have no obligaion to any state and don't need to worry about any requireents that state puts on applicants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERYSTORMY Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 16 hours ago, Brianm93 said: I had read over it a few times, sometimes looking over things for hours can fry your mind, thanks for pointing that out for me. I think I’ll stick with the 189 application You still must have a passed skills assessment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianm93 Posted January 21, 2018 Author Share Posted January 21, 2018 On 20/01/2018 at 07:23, VERYSTORMY said: You still must have a passed skills assessment. Yeah this is the hurdle I’m most interested in knowing more about. It would be handy to know where I would be sitting the assessment and what might be involved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reevo39 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 You still must have a passed skills assessment. In ordered to get the visa granted you do not need to pass a skills assessment. Only have it verified eg with supporting evidence, such as payslips qualifiactions etc by a governing body (TRA) etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh bodz Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Hi Brian. You need to pass a skills assessment . I’m a plumber and I’m half way through mine. Waiting for my practical in Blackburn in feb. You go through a company called vetassess. I used a company called the down under center.. they have helped me with all of my paperwork and send everything off to vetassess. They do all the hard work you just give them what they need. Makes life a lot easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERYSTORMY Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 9 hours ago, reevo39 said: On 20/01/2018 at 07:23, VERYSTORMY said: You still must have a passed skills assessment. In ordered to get the visa granted you do not need to pass a skills assessment. Only have it verified eg with supporting evidence, such as payslips qualifiactions etc by a governing body (TRA) etc That is a skills assessment https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/trav/visa-1/190-#tab-content-1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reevo39 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 That is a skills assessment https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/trav/visa-1/190-#tab-content-1Yes but u don't need to do a practical or written exam to get visa. I didn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reevo39 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Hi Brian. You need to pass a skills assessment . I’m a plumber and I’m half way through mine. Waiting for my practical in Blackburn in feb. You go through a company called vetassess. I used a company called the down under center.. they have helped me with all of my paperwork and send everything off to vetassess. They do all the hard work you just give them what they need. Makes life a lot easier. All the hard work? In relation to what? Sending your qualifications and evidence of payslips to Australia to get checked off etc? Do u get an Australian certificate of competency with the outcome? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianm93 Posted January 23, 2018 Author Share Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, reevo39 said: 19 minutes ago, VERYSTORMY said: That is a skills assessment https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/trav/visa-1/190-#tab-content-1 Yes but u don't need to do a practical or written exam to get visa. I didn't Is it the same for the 189 visa? I would prefer it if I only had to send away payslips and evidence of employment etc rather than sit a practical exam... I can’t do the 190 visa because I don’t have anybody to sponsor me Edited January 23, 2018 by Brianm93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh bodz Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Is it the same for the 189 visa? I would prefer it if I only had to send away payslips and evidence of employment etc rather than sit a practical exam... I can’t do the 190 visa because I don’t have anybody to sponsor meYour still going to need to do the skills assessment I believe. To reach enough points. There’s 2 stages too the assessment first stage is work evidence and then the practical. Your best off speaking to a immigration agent to run through your options Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianm93 Posted January 23, 2018 Author Share Posted January 23, 2018 9 minutes ago, Josh bodz said: Your still going to need to do the skills assessment I believe. To reach enough points. There’s 2 stages too the assessment first stage is work evidence and then the practical. Your best off speaking to a immigration agent to run through your options I reach 60+ points easily. Does that make a difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 2 hours ago, reevo39 said: 2 hours ago, VERYSTORMY said: That is a skills assessment https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/trav/visa-1/190-#tab-content-1 Yes but u don't need to do a practical or written exam to get visa. I didn't Not all skills assessments require this. Brianm93 needs to look at the specific skills assessment for whatever trade he is applying under and see what the requirements are for that particular trade. Without a skills assessment you cannot lodge an EOI for a 189 or a 190. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh bodz Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 I reach 60+ points easily. Does that make a difference I might be wrong but I was told a skills assessment certificate for a 189 was needed. But you might not need to take a English test because you score high enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustraliaPlease Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 You do need to do a skills assessment which is a practical and written exam. This assessment is also very expensive (from memory without looking at paperwork it’s around the £1,300 mark or just shy of that). Google. There’s plenty of information about it all. Have you done a points assessment test, which tells you exactly how many points you currently sit at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustraliaPlease Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 My mistake...it’s more than the figure I’ve written. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustraliaPlease Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Also, 60 points would not be enough. For plumbers, they are not accepting applicants with less than 70points (it did go up to 75) at this moment in time. It does go up and down from what I’ve seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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