Skillselect ENS 186 Timeline

[Mehar]

7 minutes ago, P102Be said:

I am cook trt

applied both nom and visa on 24 Jun 17

high risk , 2 ppl

ask for further docs 1 May 18 ,   New police check, Health exam, and Partner IELTs and did submit 27 May 18

grant both nom and visa 8 Jun 18

 

wish your guy get your PR soon soon, this page help to clam me down a lot, thank for all info I got from you.

my wait is over

Congratulations 

[Marisawright]

1 hour ago, pzuk said:

I completely get your point. But to give the flip side, when you spend that amount of time in a country, you do create a life here. 

Yes, but you should know it's a risk and be prepared.  Years ago, my first husband had a three-year contract in another country.   We had the chance of a second contract but we decided against it. Why?  Because we looked at the probability of being able to stay long-term, and it was less than 50-50.   We decided that if we stayed longer, we'd put down roots and it would then be too disruptive to leave if things didn't work out.   So we went home.   

Yes, I know it feels awful when it goes wrong and I wouldn't wish it on anyone, but it doesn't change the fact that it's partly self-inflicted.

[Parkesy]

14 minutes ago, Marisawright said:

Yes, but you should know it's a risk and be prepared.  Years ago, my first husband had a three-year contract in another country.   We had the chance of a second contract but we decided against it. Why?  Because we looked at the probability of being able to stay long-term, and it was less than 50-50.   We decided that if we stayed longer, we'd put down roots and it would then be too disruptive to leave if things didn't work out.   So we went home.   

Yes, I know it feels awful when it goes wrong and I wouldn't wish it on anyone, but it doesn't change the fact that it's partly self-inflicted.

Think thats a fair comment. The self infliction comes largely from a desire for a better life which rightly or wrongly, means our decisions are based on emotion as opposed to a clear analysis  of the situation. 

Are you both engineers ha? Very rational view you took!

[pzuk]

35 minutes ago, Parkesy said:

Think thats a fair comment. The self infliction comes largely from a desire for a better life which rightly or wrongly, means our decisions are based on emotion as opposed to a clear analysis  of the situation. 

Are you both engineers ha? Very rational view you took!

Very rational! I like to think I'm rational but reckon I'm probably more emotional with these type of things

48 minutes ago, Marisawright said:

Yes, I know it feels awful when it goes wrong and I wouldn't wish it on anyone, but it doesn't change the fact that it's partly self-inflicted.

I do agree with you. Everyone has different circumstances though. You're lucky you have that choice in that situation, as am I. I'm just aware that some people come from countries where they are looking and hoping to stay to get a better life for themselves and their families, so I'm hesitant to call it self-inflicted. But I do agree

[Prashant Shukla]

Someone has removed Aug 2017 from the spreadsheet. I just want to inform the admin; if you have the backup please restore.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1INy6sxuUIisgLOT7CcskWLjQjHV_6yVvUBRHceWE_a0/edit#gid=1606993133

[Parkesy]

5 minutes ago, Prashant Shukla said:

Someone has removed Aug 2017 from the spreadsheet. I just want to inform the admin; if you have the backup please restore.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1INy6sxuUIisgLOT7CcskWLjQjHV_6yVvUBRHceWE_a0/edit#gid=1606993133

There isn't an admin for this sheet, its community managed.

The forum does have its own tracker which you can find in the menu options.

[Parkesy]

8 minutes ago, Prashant Shukla said:

Someone has removed Aug 2017 from the spreadsheet. I just want to inform the admin; if you have the backup please restore.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1INy6sxuUIisgLOT7CcskWLjQjHV_6yVvUBRHceWE_a0/edit#gid=1606993133

August hadn't gone, it had just been moved. It was right there at the bottom...

[Prashant Shukla]

7 minutes ago, Parkesy said:

August hadn't gone, it had just been moved. It was right there at the bottom...

Well it wasn't there at all when I checked. I am in Dec so, i was just trying to save aug people the trouble.

Thanks for ur help.

[Parkesy]

4 minutes ago, Prashant Shukla said:

Well it wasn't there at all when I checked. I am in Dec so, i was just trying to save aug people the trouble.

Thanks for ur help.

It was. It was to the far left next to status. Anyway, its back for you.

[pzuk]

I'm actually confused as to how I'm going to waste time at work without this forum once my visa (hopefully) gets granted

[canuck64]

9 minutes ago, pzuk said:

I'm actually confused as to how I'm going to waste time at work without this forum once my visa (hopefully) gets granted

I think I get the most e-mails from noreply@bordergov .... this is an obsession, cant wait to see finalised. 

[Parkesy]

24 minutes ago, canuck64 said:

I think I get the most e-mails from noreply@bordergov .... this is an obsession, cant wait to see finalised. 

HAHA! So good. Me too!

[Kim12]

On 30/11/2017 at 20:16, Waris said:

Hello everyone, i m new in this forum so I don’t how to ise that, but i need some suggestions plz help me . Me and my frnd apply ENS 186 TRT on 15/11/2017 same day, she apply as cook , and Me as Chef in same restaurant, she just got her PR now, but my one nothing. Any suggestions when my turn 

Edited June 8, 2018 by Kim12

[Kim12]

Nom and both apply same day for her its came same day, we apply from same MA as well, her file lodge 1 hr before me. She just got golden email now. Any idea when i got my one, anyone here in  same boat. Plz reply 

[wait2befree]

5 hours ago, Marisawright said:

The reality is, though, that if someone comes to Australia on a temporary visa, they know it's a temporary visa when they sign up.  If they rashly made decisions on the basis they're here for life, that was their choice.  If the employer gave them the impression they were secure and guaranteed to be able to stay, the employer should be shot because that's very far from the case. More than half of all 457 holders end up going home.  Length of service or being a "genuine employee" are not part of the criteria.

When you're on a 457, you're on a temp contract with a possibility of maybe being able to migrate in the future.    I wish everyone the best of luck in making the transition, but it's a lottery and the government has been making it ever more difficult.  I wish people would think it through more, before they even apply for a 457, but I guess the unfortunate thing is that it's human nature to think "I'll be the lucky one who'll get to stay".

 

I understand your point, but watch from few different point of view, 

Yes is true what you say ,thinking become permanent just because we are in 457 it's a mistake....and yes when we sign up we know is only a temporary visa with expire date ......BUT! In the option of 457 what we signed say : after 2 years work for the same employer if company is happy to offer 186  we can apply and transition.

In short in fair view for me is

if you are in 457 and you work hard ,and you have all requirements,you are half way to pr, the only obstacle can be if the company is happy or not to offer 186 or 187( because is not in our power the choice) or if company quit,bankruptcy or similar...

But from the point the company where you work offer you nomination for 186 or 187 2 year contract, the company is in profit and can sustaining the offer promised,if you have all requirements for which reasons we have to talk of lucky??? In theory have to be granted....ok basically is lucky , but like in everything if you have all requirements don't have to be like gambling but have to be normal get the result.

 

like if you study for some test, and you are very prepared you'll have to pass without problem, don't have to be lucky game!!!! I wanna see if you are ready for the test and you fail just because who check the test have some silly reason example in question where is multi choiches, you answer all correctly and you have to take 10 points, but the teacher give you 5 and explain you ( you have answered at all question correctly but sorry I don't believe you really know all the answer, I believe you was just lucky and that's why I give you 5) End of story!

how you feel?? Is Fair? You study, and you answered correctly but still fail because the decision is not in your power and doesn't matter how good you are who have the power give the points what they want???

[MP007]

Any Software/Developer got approval this week?

 

[Vic154]

I'm actually confused as to how I'm going to waste time at work without this forum once my visa (hopefully) gets granted

You can be like me and still come on here to see what’s going on ;-)

[Siddu]

29 minutes ago, Kim12 said:

Nom and both apply same day for her its came same day, we apply from same MA as well, her file lodge 1 hr before me. She just got golden email now. Any idea when i got my one, anyone here in  same boat. Plz reply 

What’s your time line ?

occupation de/trt? Which pese ?

[bobobz]

Nom and both apply same day for her its came same day, we apply from same MA as well, her file lodge 1 hr before me. She just got golden email now. Any idea when i got my one, anyone here in  same boat. Plz reply 

I guess it depends on the occupations. mine is Chef too applied in Aug 2017. Theres many cook granted recently for June applications, it is very good for your friend who got approved alr when she did in November. I havent heard any Chefs got granted recently (on this forum). So.. when you will get it? I dont know. cause I dont know mine either

[MP007]

over all good week for Cook and Marketing/Sales 

Hope other occupation will be picked soon. 

[wait2befree]

In addition I wanna say is totally clear they try to found any small reason for reject all this application.

in last year they showed very good, and every country have they're politic about immigration and is fair they change rules and laws how they want. But like in any contract or game is rule, and when you start play is those rules , is not fair you sign some contract and half way they change the rules.

is like World Cup soccer is in Russia this year ,the regular time is 90 minutes, imagine if Russia score 1 goal after few minutes and they change the rule of time from 90 minutes to 10 minutes??? 

What they tried last year to change rules even for who was already in 457 was not fair...Is fair change the rules for who isn't in the game, because is your choice choose if keep going maybe with lucky and cant crying after or leave it because not anymore interested with new rules but for who was in the game with previous rules is totally no fair....

I saw lot of reasons for reject visa like training benchmarks or they thinking the company don't need anymore you.

when people's spend $10.000/20.000 for this kind of visa is not nice get refuse for not they're mistake, the mistake is of company or migration agent, is not nice milking people like that without give a chanches to fix, If company didn't pay at all for training benchmarks is right they get fined but who apply still get his or her visa, if forget pay or wrong count example like only 1 month have to give chanche to fix , because is just a mistake is not because people try to not pay.

 

thisis my point of view...for other reason like who don't have requirement is fair enought they reject, but not for the genuine applicant.

[Marisawright]

1 hour ago, wait2befree said:

I understand your point, but watch from few different point of view, 

In the option of 457 what we signed say : after 2 years work for the same employer if company is happy to offer 186  we can apply and transition.

That is not what it says, and I am sorry if you misunderstood it.  Many people do.  Sometimes the employer (or an unscrupulous agent) makes it sound easier than it is, because they want you to go ahead.

But what it actually says is, if the company is happy to offer the 186, you can apply and if you are eligible, you may be able to transition to PR.   But it is not up to the company, it is up to the government.  It depends on what the immigration requirements are at the time.

I'm not so familiar with how the 186 works, but look at the 189 skilled visa:  you can have all the qualifications and experience and points needed, but that does not mean you will get the visa. There is a limit on the number of visas granted each year, so they pick only the very best, with the most points.  It is a competition.

If you are coming from a country where life is poor, I can understand you taking this big risk, because you have no alternative.   I am always surprised when people coming from England or some European countries take a 457 hoping to transition to PR, because they are taking risks for a very small (or perhaps non-existent) improvement in their lifestyle.

Edited June 8, 2018 by Marisawright

[Kim12]

Thx for reply, we both apply same day 15/11/2017 with same MA and she was cook and i m chef same restaurant. TRT 186 direct aproval, no documents requested both nom and visa came same day. I hope my turn next week.

[Alibaba]

6 hours ago, P102Be said:

I am cook trt

applied both nom and visa on 24 Jun 17

high risk , 2 ppl

ask for further docs 1 May 18 ,   New police check, Health exam, and Partner IELTs and did submit 27 May 18

grant both nom and visa 8 Jun 18

 

wish your guy get your PR soon soon, this page help to clam me down a lot, thank for all info I got from you.

my wait is over

Congrats bro . Did the immi called you or your employer?? 

[Sardar]

Friends! I got my nomination and visa approved today.

Nomination application: 26th June 2017

Visa application: 26th June

Marketing Specialist EN 186

Nomination and visa approved: 8th June 2018

I will continue to visit this forum to hear good news from all of you!!