Why, why, why, Chris Bryant?

[Thom]

Another reason I left the Labour party

 

Why, why, why, Chris Bryant? The senior Labour MP wants Welsh rugby fans to stop singing Tom Jones's great yowling anthem Delilah.

 

 

Mr Bryant says it glorifies violence and is 'about the murder of a prostitute', therefore can be held partly responsible for the rise in domestic violence incidents after matches.

 

 

Rightly, he is concerned about attacks on women and piously informs us that the song, which Jones himself belts out before rugby matches in his homeland, 'goes right to the heart of the issues we are discussing'.

 

 

 

 

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3441510/Hands-Delilah-Labour-MP-wants-ban-hit-song-inciting-wife-beating-right-men-joyless.html#ixzz3zoY4MIet

 

 

 

 

This man voted to bomb Syria, but is wanting this song banned in case it "incites violence"? The hypocrisy is strong in this one...

[Gbye grey sky]

Have you actually seen the lyrics for this song.

 

Not saying I necessarily agree with him but he has a point.

 

I saw the light on the night that I passed by her window

I saw the flickering shadow of love on her blind

She was my woman

As she deceived me I watched and went out of my mind

 

My my my Delilah

Why why why Delilah

I could see, that girl was no good for me

But I was lost like a slave that no man could free

 

At break of day when that man drove away I was waiting

I crossed the street to her house and she opened the door

She stood there laughing

I felt the knife in my hand and she laughed no more

 

My my my Delilah

Why why why Delilah

So before they come to break down the door

Forgive me Delilah I just couldn't take any more

 

She stood there laughing

I felt the knife in my hand and she laughed no more

 

My my my Delilah

Why why why Delilah

So before they come to break down the door

Forgive me Delilah I just couldn't take any more

[Thom]

There have been hundreds of popular tunes about murder, it doesn't mean that a single damn one of them has ever led to any incident.

 

 

 

They call me 'The Wild Rose'

But my name was Elisa Day

Why they call me it, I do not know

For my name was Elisa Day

 

From the first day I saw her, I knew she was the one

She stared in my eyes and smiled

For her lips were the color of the roses

That grew down the river, all bloody and wild

 

When he knocked on my door and entered the room

My trembling subsided in his sure embrace

He would be my first man and with a careful hand

He wiped at the tears that ran down my face

 

They call me 'The Wild Rose'

But my name was Elisa Day

Why they call me that, I do not know

For my name was Elisa Day

 

On the second day, I brought her a flower

She was more beautiful than any woman I've seen

I said, "Do you know where the wild roses grow

So sweet and scarlet and free?"

 

On the second day, he came with a single red rose

He said, "Give me your loss and your sorrow"

I nodded my head, as I lay on the bed

"If I show you the roses, will you follow?"

 

They call me 'The Wild Rose'

But my name was Elisa Day

Why they call me that, I do not know

For my name was Elisa Day

 

On the third day, he took me to the river

He showed me the roses and we kissed

And the last thing I heard was a muttered word

As he knelt above me with a rock in his fist

 

On the last day, I took her where the wild roses grow

She lay on the bank, the wind light as a thief

And I kissed her goodbye, said, "All beauty must die"

And I lent down and planted a rose between her teeth

 

They call me 'The Wild Rose'

But my name was Elisa Day

Why they call me it, I do not know

For my name was Elisa Day

My name was Elisa Day

For my name was Elisa Day

 

 

[Gbye grey sky]

Perhaps you are right and 'Delilah' is the perfect anthem for a rugby match. And if you feel so strongly about it, it is a good job you got out of the Labour Party when you did.

[Thom]

I got out of the Labour party as it abandoned it's core vote. It stopped being the party of the WORKING man and woman, and became a party dominated by the middle class. It also developed an unhealthy obsession with minorities, gender politics, race, dole claimants, and basically anyone other than the working man and woman of the UK.

[Gbye grey sky]

I got out of the Labour party as it abandoned it's core vote. It stopped being the party of the WORKING man and woman, and became a party dominated by the middle class. It also developed an unhealthy obsession with minorities, gender politics, race, dole claimants, and basically anyone other than the working man and woman of the UK.

 

So which party represents the white, male, heterosexual, non-middle class working male these days in your view.

[Paul1Perth]

The Welsh fans just love a good sing. The lyrics don't matter. Just another case of PC gone mad.

[bunbury61]

Another reason I left the Labour party

 

 

 

This man voted to bomb Syria, but is wanting this song banned in case it "incites violence"? The hypocrisy is strong in this one...

 

Thom,iam with you on this one ...who the **** is Chris Bryant anyway ?...i had to look him up on google .

Iam sure the voters in rhondda wont forget him come the next election .

When welsh sporting fans ( and stoke city fans ) sing the song ,iam sure the meaning of the song is the last thing on their minds ...ITS THE TUNE .

Bloody hell ,all this pc crap is doing my head in .

Work hard ,have a few drinks and a sing song...what next ?....banning kite flying like the Taliban .

In the words of harry Enfield ...chris Bryant ....NO !

[amibovered]

He'll be OK when someone explains to him it's a song, not a documentary.

[Parley]

Tom Jones sang Delilah at the Grand Final in Melbourne 2 years ago.

 

It was a big hit for him.

[Thom]

So which party represents the white, male, heterosexual, non-middle class working male these days in your view.

 

None.

[Diane]

Must be something about songs with Delilah in the title.... my kids used to do a great duet to Hey There Delilah by The Plain White T's until my daughter decided the line about the girl 'being done with school in two years' implied some sort of weird pedo thing was going on... although she's since realised that in the US "school" means Uni as often as not so is probably all above board...

 

Anyway, off topic sorry, it was just the Delilah link that drew me in....

[Gbye grey sky]

Let's face it, the song itself is a bit crap on every level. Tom Jones could sing the phone book and make it sound good though. A truly amazing voice and still got it.

[Parley]

I suppose with your way of thinking we would be severely limited on what movies or tv dramas we can watch too.

Anything with a murder or other crime should never be watched.

[bunbury61]

Another reason I left the Labour party

 

 

 

This man voted to bomb Syria, but is wanting this song banned in case it "incites violence"? The hypocrisy is strong in this one...

 

...Delilah is being sung very loudly in the stadium before the wales v Scotland 6 nations match.

So theres your answer mr martin ....stick to politics ,and serving your people

[Quinkla]

Another reason I left the Labour party

I'm surprised you ever thought the Labour Party would be a comfortable place given the political views you post on this site.

 

As it goes, I think there's no harm in occasionally reminding people what songs actually mean - otherwise you get people singing them in inappropriate contexts without realising. We already (rightly) ban The Billy Boys from football matches, so why should it be acceptable to adopt a song about murdering a sex worker as a rugby anthem?

[Quinkla]

I got out of the Labour party ... It also developed an unhealthy obsession with minorities, gender politics, race, dole claimants, and basically anyone other than the working man and woman of the UK.

You know they used to sing the Internationale?

 

C'est la lutte finale

Groupons-nous, et demain

L'Internationale

Sera le genre humain

[Thom]

I'm surprised you ever thought the Labour Party would be a comfortable place given the political views you post on this site.

 

I was a Labour party member from 1978 to 2002, I was a union member from 1975 to 2003, I was a shop steward from 1986 to 2003.

 

We already (rightly) ban The Billy Boys from football matches, so why should it be acceptable to adopt a song about murdering a sex worker as a rugby anthem?

 

A) Delilah is only a bloody song.

B) There is no political import to it.

C) She wasn't a "sex worker".

D) This sort of nanny statism needs to be curbed

Edited February 14, 2016 by Thom

[Gbye grey sky]

It was interesting to read a Rupert Murdoch biography to learn that in his younger days he was very much influenced by socialist thinking. I guess, like born again Christians and ex-smokers, converts are almost more passionate about their new views than many who have held those opinions their whole life.

 

For that reason I am not surprised about your background. Many people, as they age, become more right-wing in their views.

[Quinkla]

I was a Labour party member from 1978 to 2002, I was a union member from 1975 to 2003, I was a shop steward from 1986 to 2003.

This surprises me because your primary political view, judging by your posts on this site, is a dislike of immigration and Muslims. In fact, you have posted often to attack Jeremy Corbyn for his attempts to steer the Labour Party back to its original socialist roots. It may not be the way you would wish to come across, but if I had had to guess your politics during the 1970s and 1980s, I would have guessed at NF.

[JockinTas]

This surprises me because your primary political view, judging by your posts on this site, is a dislike of immigration and Muslims. In fact, you have posted often to attack Jeremy Corbyn for his attempts to steer the Labour Party back to its original socialist roots. It may not be the way you would wish to come across, but if I had had to guess your politics during the 1970s and 1980s, I would have guessed at NF.

 

I was a Labour supporter in the 60's and 70's in the UK. One thing that did get up my nose during that time was Labour revoked the right of Kenyan Asians to come to Britain in 1968 even though they held British passports. In 1972 the Tory government let the Ugandan Asians in although India, Pakistan and Bangladesh were encouraged to take a fair quota. Canada also made a generous response to an intake. There will always be a negative response to a large intake of refugees no matter which country.

[Thom]

This surprises me because your primary political view, judging by your posts on this site, is a dislike of immigration and Muslims. In fact, you have posted often to attack Jeremy Corbyn for his attempts to steer the Labour Party back to its original socialist roots. It may not be the way you would wish to come across, but if I had had to guess your politics during the 1970s and 1980s, I would have guessed at NF.

 

LOL!! Well I find that insulting to be honest with you. What have I said about Muslims and immigration to give you this view of me? Please quote me.

 

I changed my politics during the Bliar debacle. The more I looked at what I valued in life, and in politics, the more it seemed the Labour party had moved away from me and my working class roots.

 

I found, to my surprise, that many working class people were now shunning Labour as it had become middle class dominated, yet uncaring about the WORKING man and woman, and fixated with minorities and dole claimants.

 

Corbyn may have some ideas that fit with my 1970's socialism and ideals, but they are not appropriate for 2016.

[tonyman]

I was a Labour supporter in the 60's and 70's in the UK. One thing that did get up my nose during that time was Labour revoked the right of Kenyan Asians to come to Britain in 1968 even though they held British passports. In 1972 the Tory government let the Ugandan Asians in although India, Pakistan and Bangladesh were encouraged to take a fair quota. Canada also made a generous response to an intake. There will always be a negative response to a large intake of refugees no matter which country.

[Quinkla]

LOL!! Well I find that insulting to be honest with you. What have I said about Muslims and immigration to give you this view of me? Please quote me.

 

Just a selection - but the impression is left not so much by any single post as by the sheer, unrelenting volume of it.

 

But in these instances we have another motivation on display, the racist belief that white girls, of any age, are sluts and deserve to be used by men, ignoring also the age of consent..

 

Funny how we're so hard on some forms of racism, but not others.

Today's daily dose...

 

When we stop getting a weekly dose of Muslim atrocity, maybe then the threads will end.

 

Time to seal the borders of the UK.

 

Germany is starting to regret its "open door" policy

 

The slave trade happened generations ago Britain should not be shamed into doing anything!! In fact we should be thanked for our role on it abolishment.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34401412

 

So if we see one sad and emotional picture of someone who has put his small kids in that dangerous position, we should change a whole country's stance on illegal immigration?

[Quinkla]

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Actually, Daniel Andrews has said Victoria will happily accommodate the asylum seeker children and his government will guarantee service provision for them. All the other Premiers said the same. So this meme doesn't really hit home, does it?