Millie1978 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Hi all, after finally getting our PR visas and all the talk we have been doing for the past 3 years, we finally have to make a decision. Originally our plan has always been to move to Perth. My oh is a carpenter but with the down turn over in WA and the economy not looking to rosey over there we might be changing our mind to Sydney. Sydney is booming and no end to the work and he has secured a job with great pay, where as Perth he wouldn't be in a secure job. we know Sydney is v.exp but so is Perth. It's just the accommodation would be very different. Is there any other young families who are in the same boat as us and have changed your plans at the last minute? Is there anyone who has made the move recently to Sydney and living in apts with young kids? We are looking at the eastern suburbs if we do go. Any advice appreciated xxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungo Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Why does it matter if a stranger on the Internet originally thought about moving somewhere else but then moved to Sydney? The only thing that matters are your own plans. Do you have any questions about Sydney? Now I am surprised that you mention costs (suggesting that cost is something you are mindful of) but then announce you are moving to the Eastern Suburbs, the most costly part of Sydney by a mile! Have you thought about other areas, where you might be able to get a house? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 I agree with Bungo , the Eastern suburbs are lovely but the most expensive area you could pick by a country mile! If you want an easy commute near beaches, look at Sutherland shire, or Oatley or Mortdale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpingjellybean Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 we know Sydney is v.exp. We are looking at the eastern suburbs if we do go. Sydney is still affordable even on a lowly wage like mine. Depends where you choose to live. For example, Werrington near Penrith which is about 48km west of the CBD is still quite affordable. Well still over priced in my view but you can still pick up houses there under $400,000. Whereas The Eastern Suburbs you are looking at a few million probably. The Eastern Suburbs is possibly the most expensive part of Sydney - only millionaires live there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collie Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Hey Millie, Congrats on making the move, you'll love it. check on the Irishbrekkieclub on meetup. Eastern suburbs is very pricey. Inner west a lot more reasonable and the northern beaches is quite family friendly. Will post a more comprehensive response when i get time. Col Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millie1978 Posted October 20, 2015 Author Share Posted October 20, 2015 Why does it matter if a stranger on the Internet originally thought about moving somewhere else but then moved to Sydney? The only thing that matters are your own plans. Do you have any questions about Sydney? Now I am surprised that you mention costs (suggesting that cost is something you are mindful of) but then announce you are moving to the Eastern Suburbs, the most costly part of Sydney by a mile! Have you thought about other areas, where you might be able to get a house? Firstly thanks for your reply. If I'm not mistaken isn't the whole purpose of this website is to get information off other people in the same boat as ourselves and exchange info?? So your first line back to me makes no sense!!....as I explained with the downturn in my oh industry in WA I would have been interested to hear back from other families who had maybe changed purely because of work reasons ie:construction..and sacrifice downsizing. We would only be renting until we know what our definite plans would be, so the price you would pay fora 4 bed house close to city in Perth would be the equivalent of a 2 bed apt in the eastern suburbs. With 2 young ones we would be sacrificing the extra space but on the other hand work is guaranteed ....tough decisions to be made! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millie1978 Posted October 20, 2015 Author Share Posted October 20, 2015 Hey Millie, Congrats on making the move, you'll love it. check on the Irishbrekkieclub on meetup. Eastern suburbs is very pricey. Inner west a lot more reasonable and the northern beaches is quite family friendly. Will post a more comprehensive response when i get time. Col Hey collie, thank for reply. We know eastern suburbs are pricey. We would only be renting until we decide what's what until we get there. Will def check out the link you gave me. In WA we could afford to rent a 4 bed house close to city my work in construction as taken a huge knock. Sydney he is guaranteed years of work (well fingers crossed) but we could only afford to rent a nice 2 bed apt and still be close to city. Adding an hour or more time each way for my husbands commute, you really have to think is family quality time together really going to happen if we're apart more than we are here at home. I think if we get there and get organised out in the western suburbs parramatta etc, seems to be a lot of future development plans so he could be lucky and have work closer by then having to commute into the city xxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungo Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Firstly thanks for your reply. If I'm not mistaken isn't the whole purpose of this website is to get information off other people in the same boat as ourselves and exchange info?? So your first line back to me makes no sense!!....as I explained with the downturn in my oh industry in WA I would have been interested to hear back from other families who had maybe changed purely because of work reasons ie:construction..and sacrifice downsizing. We would only be renting until we know what our definite plans would be, so the price you would pay fora 4 bed house close to city in Perth would be the equivalent of a 2 bed apt in the eastern suburbs. With 2 young ones we would be sacrificing the extra space but on the other hand work is guaranteed ....tough decisions to be made! I understand why you want to ask questions about Sydney. I don't understand why you need to find someone that thought about moving to Perth and then decided to move to Sydney. What does it matter whether somebody else changed their mind about where to live?? How does it help you? I was just baffled as to why you think that important, that is all. Yes I am sure a four bedroom house in Perth can be obtained for the same price as an apartment in the Eastern Suburbs of Sydney. Sydney is a lot more expensive than Perth and you appear to have chosen the most expensive area of Sydney as well, but there are other places to live... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millie1978 Posted October 20, 2015 Author Share Posted October 20, 2015 Sydney is still affordable even on a lowly wage like mine. Depends where you choose to live. For example, Werrington near Penrith which is about 48km west of the CBD is still quite affordable. Well still over priced in my view but you can still pick up houses there under $400,000. Whereas The Eastern Suburbs you are looking at a few million probably. The Eastern Suburbs is possibly the most expensive part of Sydney - only millionaires live there. loving the name jumpingJellybean!!....well we are far from millionaires!....we would only rent a 2 bed apt and sacrifice the down sizing but to be close to the city and my oh work. Less commute time for him. Obviously after a while there if we decide it's where we want to be then we would have to buy but like you said we would have to go west for sure!....this is all very new for us as our plans have always been Perth but now his work is drying up there but no end to his work in Sydney!....exciting and scary times ahead xxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millie1978 Posted October 20, 2015 Author Share Posted October 20, 2015 I understand why you want to ask questions about Sydney. I don't understand why you need to find someone that thought about moving to Perth and then decided to move to Sydney. What does it matter whether somebody else changed their mind about where to live?? How does it help you? I was just baffled as to why you think that important, that is all. Yes I am sure a four bedroom house in Perth can be obtained for the same price as an apartment in the Eastern Suburbs of Sydney. Sydney is a lot more expensive than Perth and you appear to have chosen the most expensive area of Sydney as well, but there are other places to live...[/quote my questions are more aimed at carpenters following the work really. There has to be plenty of carpenters on here that like us had planned for so long on moving to WA but now having to go East, it's a whole different ball game if I'm honest. It's the biggest move of our lives and to have come this far down the PR route and now start researching from scratch is very stressful. Sorry if you still don't understand where I'm coming from. I understand that renting in eastern suburbs is exp and we would only be able to afford an apt but it's less commute time. will see what the work front brings out in the western suburbs, a lot of money is being pumped into these areas and plenty of construction going on so fingers crossed in time we could have a house close to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deryans Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Hi Millie, we're an anglo-Irish family (3 kids)who used to live in Sydney, inner West for 10 years or so (fab spot), moved to Adelaide (disaster), and now back in UK. If your other half is a chippie, then there will always be plenty of work for him around Sydney, but beware that the Oz economy is commencing a slight downturn, this impact is as you have observed , occurs more quickly areas such as Mining/construction and locations or cities that have failed to diversify due to lack of vision are not doing well, for example Perth and Adelaide. The issue I see, is his daily commute, if you're living in inner west, say Balmain/Abbotsford/Five Dock area (along the paramatta river) , and he gets a gig in the CBD then it's 20-30min, but if he gets a gig out west, then he is going to spend at least 2 if not 3 hours minimum commuting , if he gets a gig in northern beaches, same deal, 1 hour up, 1 hour back, so you have to think carefully about the community you'll live in, join school board/pre-schools/parents group etc Avoid the eastern burbs, nice to look at, but flat-land, single professionals and expensive for what you get Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpingjellybean Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 well we are far from millionaires!....we would only rent a 2 bed apt and sacrifice the down sizing but to be close to the city and my oh work. Being very close to the CBD would be OK for a couple. But not great with two kids in tow. This is my opinion only of course. There is no train line to The Eastern Suburbs and traffic snarl is bad. So your OH would probably spend "quality family time" stuck in traffic jams. I would suggest the Lower North Shore instead. On a train line. Easy commute to the CBD. Less stressful than the Eastern Suburbs. Less crowded. Plenty of parks and beaches for family leisure time. Maybe somewhere like Wollstonecraft. You could even walk into the CBD from there. Good buses, train and ferry service. In the surrounding area are good pre-schools and schools. Also cafes, bars, restaurants, gyms, and even a funfair (Luna Park). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amibovered Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 If it was me I'd head for where the work is, it'll be hard enough settling into a new country without the worry of becoming unemployed, if you like the lifestyle but don't like Sydney you can always move somewhere else later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpingjellybean Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 If it was me I'd head for where the work is But carpenter jobs tend to be contract work. You could potentially be forever on the move. Seems to be loads Sydney carpenter jobs on Seek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie 2 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Carpenters don't normally use public transport. Tools required for a job usually weigh a ton. If I were you I would rent, short term, just outside of the CBD until you have an idea where your OH will be working. However, as trades work all over the place, in the long term. you would be better finding a suburb you like and settling there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Hi all, after finally getting our PR visas...My oh is a carpenter but with the down turn over in WA and the economy not looking to rosey over there we might be changing our mind to Sydney. Sydney is booming and no end to the work and he has secured a job with great payWe are looking at the eastern suburbs I would also advise you not to waste time looking in the Eastern Suburbs. If you want to be close to the CBD, then look at the INNER west (no further away than Concord or Marrickville). You will get twice as much flat for your money and it is much more family-friendly. Areas like Lilyfield, Glebe, Annandale, etc etc are all very nice and the commute time is about the same as the Eastern burbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collie Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Hey Millie, Do you know where your O/H will be working? Traffic in Sydney is an absolute nightmare (M50*3) so commuting is a factor to consider. Sydney is expensive (although the falling dollar will help if you're transferring money over), although I find it cheaper than Perth, excluding property costs. In my experience day to day living (groceries, cafes, entertainment, restaurants, transport) is about 15-20% cheaper in Sydney than Perth. But rent & property is cheaper in Perth and you get a lot more bang for your buck. I travel to Perth about once a month. Sydney is a big city and to give you a rough idea of size compared to Ireland, it would stretch from Dundalk (Hornsby - Central coast) to Athlone (Penrith- Blue mountains) to Gorey (Wollongong) Regarding areas, below is a bit of a snapshot but is by no means comprehensive. The Eastern suburbs is nice but IMO is a bit too cool for school, quite trendy (think Ross O'Carroll Kelly ) and very expensive. The other thing is that if your o/h is not working in the ES he will be commuting a bit and you need to travel across the city to north, inner west or west. Bondi, Bondi Junction, Randiwick & Coogee are big backpacker areas (lots of paddies, poms etc). The areas between them are lovely but pricey. I quite like Maroubra which is a little further south but great beach and a bit quieter and you probably get a bit more for your money. I have a mate who lived there and loved it but had to move to be closer to work in Frenches Forest. Inner west, I am a little biased as I live in Balmain and love it. Other good areas in the inner-west are Glebe, Annandale, Lilyfield, Rozelle, Leichhardt, Haberfield. I really like Newtown but not sure if it's family friendly, it's more urban and hippy'ish. The inner west is close to the city and the right side of the city (commuting wise) if you're O/H needs to travel west for work. Some great villages with lots of retail, cafe strips etc. You get a bit more bang for your buck. Lower North Shore. Again some lovely areas, can be pricey. Can be very quiet (I jest that everybody north of the bridge is in bed by 9pm.) Reasonable driving distance to the northern beaches. Cremorne, Mosman lovely villages (but quiet). Balmoral beach is very kid friendly (no surf). Not too far from the city. Upper north shore - suburbia - don't know a lot about it as I tend just to drive through on the way to somewhere more interesting. Northern beaches - very nice, can be quiet too but Manly is close by. North of Manly is family orientated. You are a trek to the city (albeit a beautiful trek by ferry from Manly). I have friends who moved that way and bascially just commute for work or the odd night out. ie once you live that way you tend to socialise that way. If you are not working that way you are a serious trek to the other areas of the city. South - don't know too much about down here but have some friends who live in Cronulla and love it. 45mins-1hour to the city. But then again, I know a young Scottish family who moved to Oatley and found it very quiet and boring and moved once their lease was up. Out west - Don't really venture that far often but think West Dublin, I'll leave it at that. Hope this helps. I would look at inner ring or middle ring suburbs with good public transport links. They give out about it a lot but I find Sydney public transport ok but I live in an inner ring suburb. It's a lot better than Perth IME. Maybe post the ages of the kids, what you are looking for in an area and what your budget is for rent and it will help people narrow down suggestions. Most areas have decent parks and playgrounds close by. domain.com.au is where you will see property and rents quoted are weekly. Start browsing the sydney morning herald site too to help you get assimilated (smh.com.au) On the work front, I'm not in that field but know a few who are and they are quite busy. plenty of big building and infrastructure projects going on at the moment. Happy for you to drop me a PM if you like if you have specific queries. Collie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul1Perth Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Sorry I'm changing this post I misread and thought Western suburbs. Eastern suburbs will be expensive, that's the drawback. You might be overestimating the downturn for Perth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryOb1 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Hey Millie, Sadly, the sad truth is that if your oh is a carpenter, there is a lot of work but there will be travel so that is inevitable. So my thoughts would be to think about the family side of it, as with my family, the kids generally take precedence. We used to live in the North-West but found that it was too much hassle at the weekend getting into the city so we moved. We now live in the North Shore, Lane Cove to be exact. We rent, and it is expensive compared to out west, but we like it as it is a very family friendly area. No clubs (discos) but there are a couple of pubs. We are, in the morning, 30 mins on the express bus to the CBD and the Northern Beaches are a 30 mins drive from here on the weekend. If you're Catholic, there is a very good school here too...there is also public one too. Look, that's my two-cents worth, if you want any more info about this area, let me know...... Try to get info from people actually living in the areas that you are thinking about, Ta, Harry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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