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Many find WA not to their liking. Beach and sporting fixtures don't suit everybody.

 

Just to clarify, I wasn't saying 'the fish and chips is rubbish' I meant 'all you can get is fish and chips' although obviously in central Perth I'm such there is more variety.

 

I wasnt just slaughtering the place either. I enjoyed my month there. My point was that as a holiday it was fine, but I was expecting much more. The way it is portrayed in the UK is like some sort of Utopia and I just never found that (not Australia's fault).

 

The best way I can describe it is I was there for a whole month and still couldn't tell you what Australia's personality is , you go most places in Europe and within a day you know what it's personality is. With Australia everything was just so generic.

 

Clearly some people disagree, otherwise they wouldn't choose to live there. As I say I have a fair bit of family out there and also most of the people I grew up with now live out there, I know the majority of them love it.

 

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to quote somebody picking me up on 'fish and chips' - I wouldn't go to a foreign country and moan about there fish and chips!]

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Just to clarify, I wasn't saying 'the fish and chips is rubbish' I meant 'all you can get is fish and chips' although obviously in central Perth I'm such there is more variety.

 

I wasnt just slaughtering the place either. I enjoyed my month there. My point was that as a holiday it was fine, but I was expecting much more. The way it is portrayed in the UK is like some sort of Utopia and I just never found that.

 

The best way I can describe it is I was there for a whole month and still couldn't tell you what Australia's personality is , you go most places in Europe and within a day you know what it's personality is. With Australia everything was just so generic.

 

Clearly some people disagree, otherwise they wouldn't choose to live there. As I say I have a fair bit of family out there and also most of the people I grew up with now live out there, I know the majority of them love it.

 

What suburb were you in? I can somewhat agree if you are out in the sticks - Urban Suburban Sprawl can lack any personality.

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Some friends of ours flew out to Bangkok yesterday for the second and final stage of dental work, so that has meant two return flights for two, 5 weeks of holiday (well sort of) hotels etc and still comes out saving money.

Whilst I went to my local dentist for a check-up, she said I do a good job of cleaning my teeth (I do now but paying the price for not doing so when younger) but she still went and did a clean/descale $122 just for that, it took about 3 minutes so lets say 4 that equates to over $1800 per hour:wacko:, so if anybody out there are looking for a new direction in work!!!!

 

My partners former chief had extensive work done in India for a very good price and couldn't praise enough the treatment received. A new man is I believe the term.

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You were in Perth but if you went to Sydney it is TOTALLY different and you would certainly get a lot more to choose from than fish and chips :wink:

 

Perth has an extensive variety of food outlets these days. They come and go. A rather cut throat competitive game. Just how many are of value or even authentic is another thing though.

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I admit to missing the many diverse food outlets in Newtown, Sydney. All authentic, delicious and fairly cheap.

 

Yeah, I'm always pleasantly surprised by price of food in Sydney.

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But there must be at least one theatre, one concert hall, one museum, one art gallery, one social group in a city the size of Perth where you can engage in a little 'culture?' I'll Google and see if there is anything vaguely 'arty' available. Doesn't Tim Winton come from WA?

 

 

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Proud to say Tim Winton is. He is from the same area as me and does a lot of work exposing the treatment towards the ill treatment of seekers of asylum to which we both advocate.

 

Of course Perth is not totally devoid of cultural activity. We attend a lot of functions, some free provided by City of Perth during the summer and includes classical. Recently went to the British Festival where two of the three bands were way above average. Going to another tonight to celebrate St George's Day in the city.(English band)

 

Don't tend to go to the theatre these days but of course some good shows feature. I suspect while out there, culture events don't immediately pass from the lips of locals. I seldom hear it come up for discussion. It cannot be compared to other places where culture is clearly more celebrated and frequented. When I lived in France, I was able to purchase a carnet of tickets allowing me cost price cultural pursuits across the arts all year long. It was sponsored by the local commune (town hall) Even got it cheaper as worked for local government. It was anticipated and discussed.

 

The onus is somewhat different here and the overseas gigs tend to be very expensive for a couple to attend. There are considerations of distance to travel. The lack in many cases of public transport options and the need to curtail drinking intake when driving.

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Not one,many.and many things i dont like either..Australia isnt for me,its just not home

 

Hey that's fine. You are hardly alone. Not sure why some appear surprised that some don't find the love for Australia. I've met many who are underwhelmed by it if not exactly hating it.

It costs a lot of money to reach these shores then a lot more to travel around to discover the diverse spread list of attractions. There are places closer to home of better value but worth doing once imv to see what it is about.

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Hey that's fine. You are hardly alone. Not sure why some appear surprised that some don't find the love for Australia. I've met many who are underwhelmed by it if not exactly hating it.

It costs a lot of money to reach these shores then a lot more to travel around to discover the diverse spread list of attractions. There are places closer to home of better value but worth doing once imv to see what it is about.

 

Even you can find at least one thing you don't mind about living in Austraila. Shak hates everything and everybody.

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Even you can find at least one thing you don't mind about living in Austraila. Shak hates everything and everybody.

 

Err excuse me,and when did i say i HATE everyone and everything?what the hell you banging on about.why dont you go out or something. Leave me alone.weirdo

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Hey that's fine. You are hardly alone. Not sure why some appear surprised that some don't find the love for Australia. I've met many who are underwhelmed by it if not exactly hating it.

It costs a lot of money to reach these shores then a lot more to travel around to discover the diverse spread list of attractions. There are places closer to home of better value but worth doing once imv to see what it is about.

 

Thankyou.i have no idea why some people have a big fat prob wt this.honestly,thought this forum was to express your self,opinions etc.some real bullies on this forum!

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Proud to say Tim Winton is. He is from the same area as me and does a lot of work exposing the treatment towards the ill treatment of seekers of asylum to which we both advocate.

 

Of course Perth is not totally devoid of cultural activity. We attend a lot of functions, some free provided by City of Perth during the summer and includes classical. Recently went to the British Festival where two of the three bands were way above average. Going to another tonight to celebrate St George's Day in the city.(English band)

 

Don't tend to go to the theatre these days but of course some good shows feature. I suspect while out there, culture events don't immediately pass from the lips of locals. I seldom hear it come up for discussion. It cannot be compared to other places where culture is clearly more celebrated and frequented. When I lived in France, I was able to purchase a carnet of tickets allowing me cost price cultural pursuits across the arts all year long. It was sponsored by the local commune (town hall) Even got it cheaper as worked for local government. It was anticipated and discussed.

 

The onus is somewhat different here and the overseas gigs tend to be very expensive for a couple to attend. There are considerations of distance to travel. The lack in many cases of public transport options and the need to curtail drinking intake when driving.

 

It seems to me that we should admire those Australians who hanker for 'culture' strive to create it 'at the end of the world.' rather than knocking them because Australia is not in Europe. I don't know how hard it is to get to the theatre if you live in a Perth suburb, but it's much easier living in a Sydney suburb to get to the city, than it is for someone living outside Southampton (where I come from) to get to The West End - drive or bus to the station, 70-90 minutes on the train to Waterloo, or choose to stay overnight in London, and I'm not sure that theatre prices in London are particularly cheap compared to Australia? A ticket to the English Premier League for many clubs is certainly far above what you would pay to see a football game in Australia.

 

I admit to being a bit of a cultural 'Philistine' myself, but if I was into it, I'm sure I could find like-minded people to socialise with who like the theatre, opera, classical music, just as I can find like-minded people who like football and rock music.

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Thankyou.i have no idea why some people have a big fat prob wt this.honestly,thought this forum was to express your self,opinions etc.some real bullies on this forum!

 

I'm afraid it has been as ever thus. I don't let it waylay me and carry on regardless. I wonder at times if other darker thoughts are not coming to the surface on reading alternative postings that some would prefer not to acknowledge. It is easier obviously being in the praise Australia club in the wining of 'friends' and likes and that sort of thing.

Your doing a splendid job at pointing out the alternatives concerning your take on things. Just what the forum needs. Keep it up.

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It seems to me that we should admire those Australians who hanker for 'culture' strive to create it 'at the end of the world.' rather than knocking them because Australia is not in Europe. I don't know how hard it is to get to the theatre if you live in a Perth suburb, but it's much easier living in a Sydney suburb to get to the city, than it is for someone living outside Southampton (where I come from) to get to The West End - drive or bus to the station, 70-90 minutes on the train to Waterloo, or choose to stay overnight in London, and I'm not sure that theatre prices in London are particularly cheap compared to Australia? A ticket to the English Premier League for many clubs is certainly far above what you would pay to see a football game in Australia.

 

I admit to being a bit of a cultural 'Philistine' myself, but if I was into it, I'm sure I could find like-minded people to socialise with who like the theatre, opera, classical music, just as I can find like-minded people who like football and rock music.

 

I'm sure you don't need reminding that you live a very un Australian lifestyle. As do I but being in Perth to a far lesser extent. You live in the third most densest part of Sydney from memory and as thus can almost relate as living in London in at least accessibility.

Yes there are all sorts of deals available in London to avoid paying full price. Time of performance, season and so on. I used to purchase tickets at the cut price office some thirty years back. No idea how it works now as haven't been to a West End show on last couple of returns.

 

Far easier to find cultural buffs in Europe than here. Especially in art. Went a philistine as you call it in art to France and through relationships left years later able to hold (more or less) my own in discussion together with views of that subject. Same only more so with film. Never would have had that exposure in Perth.

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Recently spent a month over in WA, first time in Oz. I have family out there. Basically I was really looking forward to going as I've always wanted to experience Australia.

 

Ive noticed that there are so many people emigrating there without even ever having been there before. So if your one of them it's probably healthy to get some mixed opinions on the place. Anyway here's my thoughts.

 

First of all, good things. Weather is marvellous. I can see how bringing kids up here would appeal to people, much more outdoorsy life, the beach after school/work is a winner. They have parrots, we have pigeons. Also, where we where there was a brilliant social circle, people really went out of there way to bother with one another, this is probably due to a lack of family, therefore substituting family with friends.

 

However, if took me about 5 days before I starting thinking 'surely this isn't it'.

 

I must admit, after spending a month there, I just don't get it. Australia is by far the overated place

I have ever been.

 

There is a distinct lack of culture, the food is terrible (fish and chips anyone?) extremely expensive, borderline backwards and I genuinely felt like I had stepped into a time machine and came out in 1962.

 

I really wanted to love Australia, it was a dream to go there. But I have never been so underwhelmed in my life. There is very little to do there. I'm glad I went because I actually find myself appreciating the UK a lot more.

 

I would love to visit again, but the East Coast where I've heard there is much more culture and things to see/do.

 

It's interesting browsing the forum because you very rarely see or hear anything negative about the place in everyday life, but there is a good mix of opinion on this forum.

 

We had a free hand when deciding where to go to live in Australia. I am very keen to visit and see Perth and the Western Australia coastline but we were put off by the isolation of the place really (and house prices too but that was a minor consideration).

 

I always think comments like stepped back in time to 1962 quite ridiculous. I would be surprised if you remember 1962 first hand. I am one of the older contributors and I was 2 years old then. Perth looks to be a modern city and certainly nothing like the place in UK where I lived in the 1960s where hardly anyone owned a car, TV, home telephone, freezer, washing machine etc so really nothing like the 1960s.

 

Like anywhere there are pluses and minuses and you have indicated these from your perspective. I think the main issue though was your expectation. Basically it did not live up to the hype in your view. In general life in Australia is considered to be better I feel but that view is mainly propogated by people who have been there either travelling or have lived for some time.

 

Perth and WA in particular does seem to have a distinct difference from other areas in Australia reading these forums as it is like Marmite and seems to receive the most negativity. That said there are plenty of people who clearly love everything it has to offer. I feel that indirectly to label such folk as backward is gratuitously insulting but it happens far too often imo.

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Just to clarify, I wasn't saying 'the fish and chips is rubbish' I meant 'all you can get is fish and chips' although obviously in central Perth I'm such there is more variety.

 

I wasnt just slaughtering the place either. I enjoyed my month there. My point was that as a holiday it was fine, but I was expecting much more. The way it is portrayed in the UK is like some sort of Utopia and I just never found that (not Australia's fault).

 

The best way I can describe it is I was there for a whole month and still couldn't tell you what Australia's personality is , you go most places in Europe and within a day you know what it's personality is. With Australia everything was just so generic.

 

Clearly some people disagree, otherwise they wouldn't choose to live there. As I say I have a fair bit of family out there and also most of the people I grew up with now live out there, I know the majority of them love it.

 

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to quote somebody picking me up on 'fish and chips' - I wouldn't go to a foreign country and moan about there fish and chips!]

 

I was wondering why you appeared to be barking at me. I rather agree with you if the fact be known. A month's holiday in Perth is far to long. This is hardly a tourist city. More a lifestyle city what ever that means. You would have done yourself a favour staying a week and hitting the road. If younger by that I mean under say thirty two teamed up and share expenses with like minded travellers and headed either South or North. Australia is not cheap to travel so hence the numbers. The road trips are worth doing once.

 

Perth can be hard to say what it is. I still find it to an extent like that to this day. Something not quite real about the place. Do find that more here than Melbourne or Sydney.

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Even you can find at least one thing you don't mind about living in Austraila. Shak hates everything and everybody.

 

Well I have been here off and on a very long time and have seen the changes ebb and flow. If I had come to WA on holidays and stayed in a far flung part of empire in a remote part of an already remote city I could well feel much the same. I'm not convinced hate is the correct term. Underwhelmed by it all seems to fit the bill.

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Thankyou.i have no idea why some people have a big fat prob wt this.honestly,thought this forum was to express your self,opinions etc.some real bullies on this forum!

 

I've never understood that myself Shak, and I've been posting on here for years. I don't think you've done anything wrong, you've just been calling things as you see them. Don't be put off from posting mate.

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Thankyou.i have no idea why some people have a big fat prob wt this.honestly,thought this forum was to express your self,opinions etc.some real bullies on this forum!

 

In my short time here I have noticed that myself. I have no time for bullies, that always end up making themselves look silly. My advice either ignore them or give as good as they do ☺

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I wasnt just slaughtering the place either. I enjoyed my month there. My point was that as a holiday it was fine, but I was expecting much more. The way it is portrayed in the UK is like some sort of Utopia and I just never found that (not Australia's fault).

 

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I think that is because there is so many Poms pretending that they are "living the dream" in Perth because they are skint and bored but dont want to let on to everyone back home! I lived there for a while and to me if you are under 5 or over 60 Perth could be ok. There was a Marina not far from where I lived, jeez it was like an Episode of Eldorado, but in Oz instead of the Costas!
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I'm wondering......people who emigrated to Oz?Did you holiday in say Benidorm or somewhere similar?I personally dislike that type of holiday myself.Full of p***** up brits abroad.When I first came to the UK from Australia,my OH (A brit)suggested we take the kids to Costa Brava.Never been to Spain and we were genuinely excited about going.However once we got there?My god! Never again! We unpacked and headed for the pool.Loads of p***** up adults letting their kids run amok! Its that's their idea of a "family"holiday they can keep it. I often wonder if some posters did these type of holidays,and then figured they could do the same in Oz but live?

OP I accept your views of Perth actually.I've never been myself.I did watch a show (did a post of this beginning of this week)on WA and thought it was stunning!However.....you've been there and experienced it yourself,so you are seeing it from your viewpoint. Everyone is different and you're entitled to your opinion.

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