Parley Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Lets stick them with the 15,000 other UK kids awaiting adoptive families then. Not the answer At least they would be alive. Surely better than being dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulv Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 If you believe in abortion you should support her. If you believe in the Daily Mail you should support her abortion too - how else can you get hot under the collar without this click bait?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulv Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 A group of cells aren't a human - so referring to life and death is a moot point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernbird Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 There should be no reason in this day and age for unwanted pregnancy. Contraception is readily available and in the UK it's free. However I still believe we should have the choice. I also believe that other than for medical reasons the time limit should be reduced dramatically. I have had 2 miscarriages. 1 at 12 weeks which was nothing more than a heavy period and 1 at 19 weeks where it was quite obviously a baby. A friend of mine with 4 children had one recently because at 44 she felt she was not able mentally, physically or financially able to deal with another child. I fully understood where she was coming from and supported her decision, her choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gbye grey sky Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 At least they would be alive. Surely better than being dead. If being alive - any kind of life - was best then there would be no such thing as suicide. The biggest problem in the world is that there are too many people on it ruining the lives of so many people and destroying the planet. Sadly, certain religions actively promote more of their own kind being born which is why they are opposed to birth controls and abortion. Easy to be sanctimonious about the rights of unborn children while being blind to the suffering of so many children born into poverty and despair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bell123321 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I hope this story isn't true that she wants to abort to go on Big Brother that would be terrifying disgusting especially with how far she is into her pregnancy! Certainly should not be allowed and she certainly isn't in the correct mind frame. If she did end up on Big Brother she will be kicked out within the first week she certainly wont get the fame she is craving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parley Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 In the UK abortions are legal at 24 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulv Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 In the UK abortions are legal at 24 weeks. But 2 doctors agreeing to this given her publicity hungry agenda would be risking professional suicide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sustain Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I believe her breast augmentation was funded by the NHS because she had a congenital condition which meant she had no breast tissue..so fair play on that one... Oh the poor dear missing brain tissue as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jac2011 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I may be naïve here but surely no one would publicly announce this? Surely this has to be Daily Mail selling papers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellers and Whitehead Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 At least they would be alive. Surely better than being dead. ha..im not laughing because I find what you stated as funny, I'm laughing at your ignorance..if you worked with children who have been 'dragged up', not wanted, neglected etc, you would then realise that some of these would rather be dead. I'm not saying what this woman is doing I agree with, I think it's vile if what has been quoted is true and in the same context as she meant..but abortion can be a good thing if a child is so unwanted..has medical complications.. Lots of reasons why abortion is better than giving birth to an unwanted baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parley Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 What rubbish. Now I'm laughing at you're ignorance. There are many many people who have had very difficult childhoods and even been unwanted. To say they should be dead is absolutely ridiculous. You really are a nutter sometimes with what you come out with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parley Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 And there is a huge difference in someone saying they would rather be dead than you deciding they should be dead. What gives you that right to decide that another person is better off dead. That is obscene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest51810 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 People should have the choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest66881 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 APPARENTLY SHE WANTED BIG BOOBS TO BE LIKE KATIE PRICE, THEN SHE GOT ALL THE NEGATIVE ATTENTION BECAUSE OF THE NHS FOOTING THE BILL, THEN MADE PLANS TO SUE THE nhs FOR MEDICAL NEGLECT? http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/07/28/josie-cunningham-sue-nhs-4800-breast-enlargement-_n_3666142.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parley Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Sorry I probably reacted to the personal insult and would rather just debate the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parley Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 How can someone who works with children think they would be better off if they had been aborted though ? Sorry I'm getting angry about this. To me though a baby has rights even before it is born. Rights that are separate to the mothers. At say 12 weeks or 14 weeks or 18 weeks (not sure when) it is a baby and has the right to life imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest66881 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 In the words of many a scouser, 'calm down calm down' (sorry pabs), yeah we hear what you are getting at Parley, i agree to some extent, but if the baby as medical issues beyond what most would consider a normal lifestyle or the mother was to die via complications later on then maybe abortion would be the best bet for all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulv Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 How can someone who works with children think they would be better off if they had been aborted though ? Sorry I'm getting angry about this. To me though a baby has rights even before it is born. Rights that are separate to the mothers. At say 12 weeks or 14 weeks or 18 weeks (not sure when) it is a baby and has the right to life imo. Earlier in the thread someone who had the terrible experience of a miscarriage at 12 weeks described the aftermath as 'like a heavy period'. But you call a foetus at that age 'a baby'. I trust you're not a medical professional? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest66881 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 This vile creature only deserves one thing and that's illegal sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy1 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I personally could not consider abortion, however, others do have the right to choose. It's such a an emotive subject, but there are so many couples that are unable to have children. If a baby is unwanted then I would hope that the woman in question would have the courage to have the baby and give it to a family who can and does want to provide a happy life. My Mother was raped when she was newly married. Both she and my Father felt unable to raise the baby because of the deep associated trauma. The baby was subsequently put up for adoption. My Mother could have easily had an abortion, but she wanted the child to be able to have a life. I will always respect her for that. There are too many children in horrible conditions that should have been given up for adoption years ago, but their rights are not heard. The woman in the article is a product of our society- it's all 'me,me,me' and the quick route to fame through the monster that is reality tv. It' our own fault, stories like that sell newspapers and advertising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parley Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Earlier in the thread someone who had the terrible experience of a miscarriage at 12 weeks described the aftermath as 'like a heavy period'. But you call a foetus at that age 'a baby'. I trust you're not a medical professional? No I'm not and I don't need to be. That is the whole question around this issue isn't it. when does a fetus become a baby ? I think even at 12 weeks it is fairly well formed - fingers, toes etc. quite baby like. Some of the ladies who have had scans will know a lot better than me though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulv Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 If a 12 week old group of cells is a foetus maybe maternity leave should be from 3 months instead of birth? And we should pay child tax credits and child allowance to these families too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest66881 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 What does a religion have to do with it all? http://www.bbc.co.uk/ethics/abortion/child/alive_1.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maidensarah Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 One of my 13 week scans. Definitely looks like a baby to me. Would not consider an abortion myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.