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Hi everyone, i am really looking for some honest advice..... We are a family of five, three children aged 14, 11 and 9. We currently live in ireland. Due to the current situation in ireland, i am looking at moving overseas. my husband is ex raf and four years ago when he left the service i insisted we moved back to my home town in ireland and since then it has been a disaster. my husband is in it the hardware side and is working but with limited prospects here, i was in family support however due to embargos etc i struggled to get work and am now in the food industry. we are aged 44 and 39. basically here we are working to survive with little left at the end of the month after bills and are really after a good quality of live for ourselves and our children. I would just like advice from people like us who have done it and if it has been worth it. thank you everyone

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Hi everyone, i am really looking for some honest advice..... We are a family of five, three children aged 14, 11 and 9. We currently live in ireland. Due to the current situation in ireland, i am looking at moving overseas. my husband is ex raf and four years ago when he left the service i insisted we moved back to my home town in ireland and since then it has been a disaster. my husband is in it the hardware side and is working but with limited prospects here, i was in family support however due to embargos etc i struggled to get work and am now in the food industry. we are aged 44 and 39. basically here we are working to survive with little left at the end of the month after bills and are really after a good quality of live for ourselves and our children. I would just like advice from people like us who have done it and if it has been worth it. thank you everyone

Hi Rachel do you know if you can get a visa? Reason I ask is until you get a visa everything else is academic really.

 

Anyway to answer your question of has it been worth it; for us it has been as we love it, warts and all but don't get me wrong it's not been easy and for a few people it hasn't worked out - so really it's such an individual thing that you won't know until you try I guess. We expected Aus to be sort of familiar but for loads of reasons it was actually very different however we decided early on to embrace the differences rather than get upset by them wherever possible and that way we accepted and embraced our new life.

 

Good luck with everything and hope it works out for you guys if that's what you want.

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You certainly sound a bit miserable in the situation which you find yourself at the moment, so I can't think you would be worse off trying somewhere new.

 

even if you don't qualify for Oz, there are plenty of flourishing places all over the world, you never know where you may end up.

 

OH was applying for jobs in UAE when he came across the one that got us into here....and it wasnt somewhere we had thought off, but we did our research and took the gamble.

Good luck.

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We three kids were roughly the same age as your kids on arrival and my father was an ex RAF pilot. Worked out very well for all five of us so if you can get a VISA give it a go.

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If his occultation is on the CSOL - I am guessing it is if it is eligible for business sponsorship, then it is also eligible for state sponsorship. Soni would look at each states list to see if any states are sponsoring it.

 

It may be worth speaking to a registered migration agent as most will give an initial assessment for free

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If Australia is not an option ( it is hard to get in, and can be expensive to establish yourselves), then have a look at Canada, they will take just about all skills.

Good idea. When we looked at moving we assessed the various countries we fancied then chatted to a registered Migration Agent and assessed the best option for us. That way you find the best likelihood.

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Do you mean a 457 visa?
If you are correct that they need a 457 visa & reading other thread posts on how hard it is to get a job in oz at the moment I would be very worried for them as they have young children. If they secured a job and otained a 457 then lost the job they would be in a far worst situation.
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If you are correct that they need a 457 visa & reading other thread posts on how hard it is to get a job in oz at the moment I would be very worried for them as they have young children. If they secured a job and otained a 457 then lost the job they would be in a far worst situation.

That's is why I asked the question K & C - if they can get a skilled visa under their own steam that would be preferable to a 457 visa (even though more lengthy / difficult to obtain) as at least they won't be dependant on an employer and also on a 457 there are other expensive considerations especially for children's schooling and health care etc.

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That's is why I asked the question K & C - if they can get a skilled visa under their own steam that would be preferable to a 457 visa (even though more lengthy / difficult to obtain) as at least they won't be dependant on an employer and also on a 457 there are other expensive considerations especially for children's schooling and health care etc.
Plus knowing how my cousins are fixed it southern ireland with no pot to pi-- in with lack of jobs have they got a rainy day fund or just there suite cases ?.
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That's is why I asked the question K & C - if they can get a skilled visa under their own steam that would be preferable to a 457 visa (even though more lengthy / difficult to obtain) as at least they won't be dependant on an employer and also on a 457 there are other expensive considerations especially for children's schooling and health care etc.

 

But if they are eligible for a 457 they are eligible for state sponsorship and that should be their first stop. See if any states are sponsoring.

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Plus knowing how my cousins are fixed it southern ireland with no pot to pi-- in with lack of jobs have they got a rainy day fund or just there suite cases ?.

Agree - the 457 is dodgy not in the least as it is employer dependent - if the employer decides to suddenly finish them for whatever reason then they have 28 days to get out of Australia (unless this has changed?) which means they could be put on a plane back to Ireland at their own expense and no jobs in Ireland to return home to. I have heard of people who then subsequently unavoidably broke their lease on their rental and ended up also losing their bond.

 

457 visas can and do work - and have been invaluable to some - but at least if people know the pitfalls they can work out the pro's and cons and build this into their plans.

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But if they are eligible for a 457 they are eligible for state sponsorship and that should be their first stop. See if any states are sponsoring.

 

Is that how 457 works these days I.e. company sponsorship and state sponsorship works hand in hand? OK if the two are exclusive then you are right - they should see if the skills are required in any specific state and apply that way maybe. Of course that doesn't mean they have a job to go to which is what some people prefer. Anyway, some great comments and food for thought which the poster should appreciate.

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That's one of the reasons why we chose Aus but it was good to keep our options open just in case.

 

My wife used to live in Canada when her Dad had a job there. She did most of her schooling there and liked it a lot. At least it let her know there was something different than just accepting our life in the UK, as soon as I mentioned emigrating she was up for it. She didn't care for the cold much though and when we thought of Aus and Perth in particular the climate, size of the City, price of houses all looked appealing.

 

Don't know whether it's any easier to get into Canada tbh. Surely they don't just accept any applicant?

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My wife used to live in Canada when her Dad had a job there. She did most of her schooling there and liked it a lot. At least it let her know there was something different than just accepting our life in the UK, as soon as I mentioned emigrating she was up for it. She didn't care for the cold much though and when we thought of Aus and Perth in particular the climate, size of the City, price of houses all looked appealing.

 

Don't know whether it's any easier to get into Canada tbh. Surely they don't just accept any applicant?

 

You are correct Paul - when we looked into Canada it wasn't easy to get into and neither was Aus - they were equally as difficult. Luckily I had the choice and we chose Australia mainly for the climate and lifestyle and it ticked all our boxes.

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Hi, I would suggest you stay in ireland and count your blessings..!!

 

Sorry if I am putting a stick in your spokes but I speak from experience.

 

It is expensive and uprooting, if it doesn't work then you and your family could be absolutely shagged..!!

 

Good luck in whatever you choose, FNS

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Is that how 457 works these days I.e. company sponsorship and state sponsorship works hand in hand? OK if the two are exclusive then you are right - they should see if the skills are required in any specific state and apply that way maybe. Of course that doesn't mean they have a job to go to which is what some people prefer. Anyway, some great comments and food for thought which the poster should appreciate.

 

To be eligible for company sponsorship you have to have an occupation on either the SOL or CSOL lists. If it is only on the the CSOL then there are only two ways forward. One is company sponsorship - normally 457. Or to see if any of the states are sponsoring it. As the op has said they are eligible for company sponsorship, they must have a skill on the list, but my guess is it is only on the CSOL. So, the best option is to check if any states are sponsoring as this is far preferable to a 457 which is a temporary visa.

 

If no states are sponsoring that occupation then the op can try company sponsored by applying for jobs, but depending on the occupation it is usually very hard.

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