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AND we have all heard the 'horrible' employer situation for 457 visa holders, it begs the question whether the government did the right thing...many will protest but looking objectively..........and knowing how expensive this country really is............

I think you got some good hints from Wrussel, if you are committed to staying in OZ I think you need to contact them and get some expert advice, the 457 visa is definitely not what it used to be and at this stage i would prioritise whether you want to remain in OZ or not, focus on your now visa issues and don't get embroiled in an employer situation xxxx

Ive just had a go at your long comment but i do get annoyed at references to Ireland, by gawd i nearly vomit today listening to Jerry Adams complete diatribe, what a joke of a man, what a SHAME of a man...

I think you are being narrow minded, it was a complete nutter who is renowned for marital abuse, alcohol/drug abuse, decided to do a stupid, horrific, reckless thing, its not a sign of public feeling, but unfortunately its something we may have to deal with ongoing, and how sad is that xxxxx

and to clarify I regard the Jihadi's as mentally unstable

A man who clearly has mental health issues, however, he is also a terrorist, because if you have the capacity to drive a car into innocent victims with intent to harm then you are a terrorist Unfortunately, the current situation will provoke mentally unstable people from every spectrum and this isn't going to end.

I am getting confused about comments referring to 'backdating'?? As far as I understood it only applications from 20th onwards are affected i.e date of announcement and forwards, I thought all applications made prior to 20th will be processed as per previous rule...what is being 'backdated'?

457 visa holders pay tax but they can't access Centrelink payments, I don't really see a difference...

So I have just started my clinical placement as a 3rd year nursing student. I am shocked at the despondency and negativity I have encountered about the future (although all so so lovely and supportive with precepting/mentoring and on the job learning and development). It seems that there is no such thing as a permanent job for a nurse? all were on part-time, casual contracts and all were clear that there are no jobs, that I should have a plan B and warned me that at the end of my degree there is a big possibility I will never actually work as a nurse and that many nurse graduates give up and move in other career directions. Is this really how it is and if so I have 2 questions....1) why does the government continue to subsidise nursing degrees as an essential professions 2) why is nursing still on the SOL/CSOL list? There was a very negative vibe today around the lunch table about migrant nurses, I don't really know the history and cant imagine that there is substance to it as most nurses I have encountered are migrants and have been amazing and supportive. But I am really shocked at the dire employment prospects for nurses in WA and had I known 3 years ago I might have opted for a different degree, the universities continue to take on massive amounts of nursing students without being clear to them about the very poor outlook for the future for many.

As I said, headhunted, we were niaive, with no idea, we were flown here business class with a limousine waiting for us on arrival, we had a relocation expert who took us for breakfast the next day then showed us all the houses with pools and beach views we desired (in fremantle - so pretty rare!) that no longer exists, those were different times and im painting a 'picture perfect' view because it was, then, BUT not anymore xxxxx

I think you are right. In our case we came because husband was headhunted, 2 years would have worked for us, theoretically, as other opportunities would have opened up elsewhere, but nevertheless, we loved OZ, we contributed and were fortunate under the rules at the time to be allowed to stay, we are now citizens and fully committed to Australia, we don't see ourselves leaving and we talk about if we have to leave for hubbys job, we ourselves as aussies and this is our home that we will always return to.

I have a question I hope someone can answer..! We have good friends currently here on a 457 (so grandfather rules apply), however there is a 99.99% chance he will move to another company shortly, i.e transfer of 457 to another company and I am wondering how the new rules may affect this. Background info is they are here on a 457 and have absolutely on aspirations to progress to PR, they are loving their 'adventure' here but under no circumstances do they want to stay permanently, however, another 18-24 months here would be their dream. He has a very specialised role that remains on the 'long term' list (sorry not sure of its proper name) his salary is in excess of $250K per annum, the issue is that whereas until a few weeks ago the 457 transfer would have very likely been simply a minor admin process, I am asking if the recent new rules could affect that? As I said, for their own personal reasons they do not want to move to PR, the new rules actually suit them, they have maintained their home in the uk and fully intend to resume their life there within the next few years, they are just enjoying their time here right now and are hoping for another year or so before they tour OZ in a camper van then go him with amazing life long memories!!

I have to say having gone from 20/20 vision to needing glasses (apparently it's an age thing?!!) my reading sight had deteriorated quite rapidly, cannot read a book without glasses and without a book you might as well amputate my arms and legs! But I'm finding that I need a new prescription every 6 months (apparently it will settle! ) so in my case I can't see the point in stocking up in the UK, spec savers are so reasonable and my HBF covers it all, im happy with Colette Dinnigan frames but if I want Raybans or Chanel then I can go to OPSM. But also m not fussy, got 2 pairs of great frames and a pair of sunglasses for $200, HBF covered the lot and I got a 50% off voucher for another pair within 6 months, will go for the sunglasses! PS multifocls- never ever again, I feel totally dangerous driving in them, not for me!!

I can see the worry about having to sit an IELTS but I can't see the issue with the new residency rules for those who plan to live here for many years to come, perhaps it's designed to stop those who came, decided they didn't want to stay but hung on an extra 12 months or so to get their citizenship with no intentions of ever making a life here.

I would say, and its been the case for a while, that you would never sell up and move here 'lock stock and barrel' on a 457. We actually arrived here on a 457, but with no previous inclination to ever emigrate to OZ, husband was headhunted for a fantastic project, it was just the next career move for him that would eventually lead to others, wherever in the world. However, we fell in love with Australia and gained PR within 12 months, accelerated route on the 457 at that time (2010). We were completely ignorant of 457 rules and very naive, just came for the adventure, we were extremely lucky (although largely due to husbands skills and talent). We didn't sell the UK home, but everything happened in a whirlwind, I see now 457's seem to take quite a while to process whereas then, for us it took 3 days from applying to being granted. I have always championed 457 visa holders, it was the best thing that happened to us but I have also seen how it has changed over the years since and I would never ever recommend anyone to enter into one lightly, especially with children and especially if you see it as a permanent route, it just simply isnt that anymore. However, based on my own experiences I have great empathy for those currently on 457's, I wish you the best but for those in the UK, if you see this a permanent move then maybe the best thing to do is apply for the permanent visa and save yourself future stress and pain xxxx

Well in my humble opinion and if it helps, I would think the grandfather rules apply for the duration of your current 457 so if you are 5 weeks away with ample time still in hand on your 457 I would reasonably expect you are all good, I have my fingers crossed with you!! Xxx

I can't speak for others but unfortunately I have no experience in migration, however others on here do and particularly Allen Collett who has been responding to this thread, all come highly regarded by others on this website, perhaps it is time to call in the real experts with many years experience and let them help you, I am sure something can be done given your child is an Australian Citizen xxx

I can see why this decision has been made and overall I support it, however, I don't take pleasure in it as there are many people currently on 457 visa's with very different situations and circumstances Who now have to grapple with it and for some it will be a life changer. I think going forward it is moving in the right direction, so long as it does actually stop the abuse that has been happening, but some people are here legitimately under the true essence of what a 457 was designed for, they are not rorting the system and are paying significant taxes amongst many other things (school fees being one that springs to mind), and my thoughts are with them xxxx

I don't know what to say other than keep strong, I cannot conceive of any decent government forcing parents to be separated from their child, be it a mother or a father, I know rules are rules as such but surely in the case of an Australian child, the best interests of that child takes precedent and having a loving father in its life is surely in the best interests of the child. MY bestest wishes to you xxx

I imagine there are many willing to do the job for decent pay and conditions, unfortunately there are many willing to come from overseas for peanuts and appalling conditions, hopefully Turnbulls decision will help to better regulate this.

I wasn't particularly close to my family as in we could exist very happily for weeks on end without seeing each other but we were by no means dysfunctional, just pretty happy with our independent lives and happy to see each other when our paths crossed. I actually found that when we emigrated we felt 'obliged' to Skype every week, simply because we were so far away rather than keeping up the same contact we had in the uk, but distance and especially the time difference, for me, takes it's toll, sometimes at the end of my long day I'm feeling tired and just not in the mood to chat to someone whose just waking up!, my daughter has to be coerced and bribed at times to Skype her grand parents after a day of school and then a 2 hour swim club session, this is my reality but being so far away I feel more guilty than I would if I lived in the uk and hadn't seen them for a few weeks...

Firstly Pom Queen, I didn't know, but much respect to you for the difficult journey you have faced, I am thinking of you and re evaluating my rather pathetic first world problems xxxxxx On the matter of private health, I'm a total believer, ever word you said was correct xxx