Guest YorkshireLad Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 How can a country,America which has turned into some kind of Aristocracy,a country run by and for the rich even dare criticize us?Whether it is their media or polticians .I don't think the USA is in a position to criticize any country in Western Europe let alone the UK.We have things like the NHS etc. We have the BBC with no adverts every 5 minutes like US tv.I can name many,many more things that benefit our citizens in so many ways.--These things are representative of a civilized country.NOT socialism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizzy27 Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Have you ever lived in the USA? If not, then plz keep your criticism to yourself. The one thing about Americans is, we don't judge other countries. There are ppl who could take offense to your flippant comments. I, being one. It's only YOUR opinion, & it shouldn't be posted publicly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest YorkshireLad Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Have you ever lived in the USA? If not, then plz keep your criticism to yourself. The one thing about Americans is, we don't judge other countries. There are ppl who could take offense to your flippant comments. I, being one. It's only YOUR opinion, & it shouldn't be posted publicly. No I have never been to the USA.---It is not my intention to offend anyone either.----However I must disagree when you say Americans do not judge other countries.American contemporary media alone has declined to the point of it being among the most biased,judgemental,dishonest, outright rubbish around.------ --I have nothing against Americans either.I actually used to admire the US in many ways. 1 example of many things, the great cinema and tv Hollywood 'used' to produce.Contemporary US cinema etc. is rubbish but that is a different topic.----From what I know the USA was a great country in the past,however due to some very bad policies and politics over the last 20 years or so it has really declined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizzy27 Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 No country is perfect & it always make me laugh when ppl say things about cinemas etc.. Hollywood HA! There is absolutely no way you can post what u did because of something the media has said. The USA has declined??? I agree no Country is perfect, but you have no right, having never been there or lived there to make a claim lime that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bod Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 The USA has declined??? I agree no Country is perfect, but you have no right, having never been there or lived there to make a claim limethat. Is that taking the P!ss Lizzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizzy27 Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 it means this forum Is about ppl migrating to oz, not about slating America! Maybe you should stick to the topic.. Hmmmm.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizzy27 Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 Essex to aus: plz don't get rude. I have every right to defend my country. Having lived alot of years in the Uk, I could say MANY negative things about it, but this forum isn't the place. It's about helping ppm who are moving to oz. I've said my peace & if y'all wanna keep posting, then whatever. I'm outta here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bod Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 Essex to aus: plz don't get rude. I have every right to defend my country. Having lived alot of years in the Uk, I could say MANY negative things about it, but this forum isn't the place. It's about helping ppm who are moving to oz. I've said my peace & if y'all wanna keep posting, then whatever. I'm outta here! limethat.[/quote I think your missing the point or are you playing me? Are you indicating we are Limeys Don't see how I'm being Rude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobandCatherine Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 limethat.[/quote I think your missing the point or are you playing me? Are you indicating we are Limeys Don't see how I'm being Rude Too angry to see the humour I think, Funny, I thought that Americans were big on free speech - first amendment & all that, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest treesea Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 How can a country,America which has turned into some kind of Aristocracy,a country run by and for the rich even dare criticize us?Whether it is their media or polticians .I don't think the USA is in a position to criticize any country in Western Europe let alone the UK.We have things like the NHS etc. We have the BBC with no adverts every 5 minutes like US tv.I can name many,many more things that benefit our citizens in so many ways.--These things are representative of a civilized country.NOT socialism. I have lived in the States, and to the extent that "socialist" means at least a minimum standard of living, housing and health care, guaranteed for all, then for sure we are socialist in comparison to the USA. Along, probably, with every other western country other than the States. And what's wrong with that? What I would say over in the States though is that, even though it is patchy, the private welfare machine is pretty good. Food kitchens, homeless shelters, free school meals privately funded through donations. So they do have welfare of a sort- but it is more a case of private citizens helping each other because the taxpaper can afford to, but won't, foot the bill. When it comes to the media, though, I prefer the quality of news coverage in the States. Take Cumbria as an example. If that disaster was unfolding in the States, various media channels would have been live streaming it over the internet, at least showing an awareness that there would have been a significant number of their citizens living abroad who would have wanted to know the disaster unfolding at home. Instead, the BBC only livestream in the UK, and if that weren't bad enough, they took hours to turn up when the disaster was unfolding. We had to watch SKY to get live coverage. And, to rub in the misery of what a pathetic excuse for news coverage the BBC really is, we go onto the NBC - yes, an American channel, - and the quality of the coverage of the Cumbria fllods - OUR floods, I might add - was really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest YorkshireLad Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 I have lived in the States, and to the extent that "socialist" means at least a minimum standard of living, housing and health care, guaranteed for all, then for sure we are socialist in comparison to the USA. Along, probably, with every other western country other than the States. And what's wrong with that? I agree,nothing wrong with it.--I guess the term "socialist" that I used in my very poorly worded opening post was wrong.And as you know in the UK we have a more compassionate,ciivlized and better system in many ways because we have a 'proper' mix of socialism and capitalism.--I just don't like when I hear about some Yanks almost calling or imlying that we are like some kind of communist(the term I should have used in my OP) type of country.And I see this to often on American media.-- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest YorkshireLad Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 To lizzy27--I actually feel sorry for contemporary USA.--And I hope your country can get back on track.I am not the first person to call the USA(what it has become) an "aristocracy".Many, many people here in the UK,throughout Western Europe and so on have that view now.I do hope the USA can get back to being the country she used to be.And again I'm not trying to insult anyone,just being honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizzy27 Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 hey everyone, Felt so embarrassed to come bck from the weekend to see my sis had used my pc & posted!! So sorry.. I happen to agree wiry everything LOL why do you think I don't live there!! Although it's my home country, it's becoming an impossible place 2 live. Specially if you have a family. So sorry if she offended anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Lass Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Have you ever lived in the USA? If not, then plz keep your criticism to yourself. Quite right too. The one thing about Americans is, we don't judge other countries. I take people as I find them wherever they are from but this is not at all true of Americans who are just as quick to judge as anyone else. There are ppl who could take offense to your flippant comments. I, being one. It's only YOUR opinion, & it shouldn't be posted publicly. Back in agreement with you. YorkshireLad, I do wonder why you post here, why you posted what you did here? That's a rhetorical question by the way. hey everyone,Felt so embarrassed to come bck from the weekend to see my sis had used my pc & posted!! So sorry.. I happen to agree wiry everything LOL why do you think I don't live there!! Although it's my home country, it's becoming an impossible place 2 live. Specially if you have a family. So sorry if she offended anyone. :hug: Definitely not offended by you or your sister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish.01 Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 How can a country,America which has turned into some kind of Aristocracy,a country run by and for the rich even dare criticize us?Whether it is their media or polticians .I don't think the USA is in a position to criticize any country in Western Europe let alone the UK.We have things like the NHS etc. We have the BBC with no adverts every 5 minutes like US tv.I can name many,many more things that benefit our citizens in so many ways.--These things are representative of a civilized country.NOT socialism. Don't think it is all the media criticizing the UK....just the far right wing media trying to destroy Obama's health plan proposal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LukeSkywalker Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 Just read this thread. The UK IS a socialist country. The UK is currently run by an ex-Trotskyite (Darling, university membership) and an ex-Marxist (Brown university membership). At a guess ..... Leopards spots may fade but not dissapear altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petals Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 Just to put my opinion, I would call UK socialist as well as it has a social conscience and looks after the poor and needy and perpetuates some people remaining that way as its all too easy. I also believe in socialism but probably not to the extent of the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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