Moving to Tasmania from mainland (qld) questions

[Quoll]

6 hours ago, Tjsmum said:

@Bulya Shep or Ballarat? 

Shep

[Tjsmum]

On 17/03/2023 at 14:57, Bulya said:

Shep.  Can’t think of many places in the country with a worse reputation 

@Bulya At first I thought “I’m sure it can’t be that bad, we’ve had a spike in crime here in the past 2 years” then I googled Shep’s crime stats and saw that whilst their crime has dropped by 4% in a year, the worst crime is at its highest in Shep, it’s top 5 crimes are all something I couldn’t handle at the rate they have, Shep is definitely off the list 

[Bulya]

10 minutes ago, Tjsmum said:

@Bulya At first I thought “I’m sure it can’t be that bad, we’ve had a spike in crime here in the past 2 years” then I googled Shep’s crime stats and saw that whilst their crime has dropped by 4% in a year, the worst crime is at its highest in Shep, it’s top 5 crimes are all something I couldn’t handle at the rate they have, Shep is definitely off the list 

And much wouldn’t be reported.  The only good thing I can think of from Shepparton was the winning drag car from the esteemed Shepparton Auto Wreckers I saw in Adelaide in the early 70’s.  That’d be about it..

 

[Blue Flu]

On 16/03/2023 at 14:41, Bulya said:

Nasty place (crime, drugs).  Give it a wide berth 

It must be a competition between Country Victoria and Country WA for where is worse in drugs. It would be fair to say that the drug issue inflates the crime .    

[Bulya]

1 hour ago, Blue Flu said:

It must be a competition between Country Victoria and Country WA for where is worse in drugs. It would be fair to say that the drug issue inflates the crime .    

Don’t lump all of country Victoria in the same basket as Shepparton 

[Blue Flu]

12 hours ago, Bulya said:

Don’t lump all of country Victoria in the same basket as Shepparton 

Not me it is the stats. Take  a look if don't believe me. 

[rammygirl]

Regarding heat. I can go out on 40 degree heat here in Adelaide and feel fine as it is dry heat. I feel more uncomfortable at 30 degrees in humidity. 
We live inThe hills so cooler than the plains. Even in summer at night we usually open up the house as the air is cool then. We very rarely need any aircon overnight unlike when we lived in the city. 
The point is that microclimates exist everywhere. We get frost on cold mornings in winter but our friends a couple of km away never do. 
 

[rammygirl]

On 29/03/2023 at 16:30, Bulya said:

And much wouldn’t be reported.  The only good thing I can think of from Shepparton was the winning drag car from the esteemed Shepparton Auto Wreckers I saw in Adelaide in the early 70’s.  That’d be about it..

 

We were there recently. Looks to be a nicer place than before. Fab new art gallery,gardens,precinct being done up. Lively enough but not rowdy at the weekend with bars and restaurants etc.  We didn’t see any trouble while we were out day or evening. 
We also stayed in Ballarat and it was pretty rough in areas near centre. The new Novotel we stayed in near the station had a car torched in the car park while we were there.  Apparently not an uncommon thing. Pretty spectacular as it blew up, fortunately our car although nearby was OK!

Shouldn’t have been a tight arse and paid for the undercover secure parking………..

Edited March 30, 2023 by rammygirl

[Tjsmum]

On 30/03/2023 at 08:41, rammygirl said:

Regarding heat. I can go out on 40 degree heat here in Adelaide and feel fine as it is dry heat. I feel more uncomfortable at 30 degrees in humidity. 
We live inThe hills so cooler than the plains. Even in summer at night we usually open up the house as the air is cool then. We very rarely need any aircon overnight unlike when we lived in the city. 
The point is that microclimates exist everywhere. We get frost on cold mornings in winter but our friends a couple of km away never do. 
 

@rammygirl Thank you for your input, I’ve been in dry heat and Uluṟu, it was nicer than up here in FNQ! 

Is the Adelaide heat a skin burning heat? I know it’s a weird question to ask but it feels like withibk 5mins of me being outside (without sunscreen on) my skin is sizzling!

I’m hoping to escape that, for the past 2 summers we’ve had up-to 43*c and it’s oppressive!

Can’t be outside for 5 mins without sunscreen, can’t really be outside from 8am-4pm becuase the sun is insane! 
 

Cold mornings sound nice to me! 

[Bulya]

2 hours ago, Tjsmum said:

@rammygirl Thank you for your input, I’ve been in dry heat and Uluṟu, it was nicer than up here in FNQ! 

Is the Adelaide heat a skin burning heat? I know it’s a weird question to ask but it feels like withibk 5mins of me being outside (without sunscreen on) my skin is sizzling!

I’m hoping to escape that, for the past 2 summers we’ve had up-to 43*c and it’s oppressive!

Can’t be outside for 5 mins without sunscreen, can’t really be outside from 8am-4pm becuase the sun is insane! 
 

Cold mornings sound nice to me! 

Gets hotter than 43 in South Australia.  Far less humidity than Nth Queensland 

[rammygirl]

Sure you need sunscreen in summer I check the UV ratings usually worse between 10 and 4. At this time of year I rarely use sunscreen though.  Hats and tops to cover neck and shoulders are good. 

[Marisawright]

3 hours ago, Tjsmum said:

Is the Adelaide heat a skin burning heat? I know it’s a weird question to ask but it feels like withibk 5mins of me being outside (without sunscreen on) my skin is sizzling!

I’m hoping to escape that, for the past 2 summers we’ve had up-to 43*c and it’s oppressive!

Can’t be outside for 5 mins without sunscreen, can’t really be outside from 8am-4pm becuase the sun is insane! 

It's not a weird question. That sizzling feeling isn't the heat, it's the UV.  UV levels are much higher in most of Australia than in the UK and most of Europe.  It's the UV that burns and it can burn just as fast on a cool day as a hot one.  Here's a map of the UV levels in spring in Australia:

My husband is at high risk for skin cancer, which is caused by high UV exposure.  So that explains why we chose Victoria to live in.   From these maps you can see that Victoria is much lower for UV most of the time.   Tasmania would be even better, but not by much.  

Edited March 31, 2023 by Marisawright

[InnerVoice]

On 30/03/2023 at 17:52, rammygirl said:

We were there recently. Looks to be a nicer place than before. Fab new art gallery,gardens,precinct being done up. Lively enough but not rowdy at the weekend with bars and restaurants etc.  We didn’t see any trouble while we were out day or evening. 
We also stayed in Ballarat and it was pretty rough in areas near centre. The new Novotel we stayed in near the station had a car torched in the car park while we were there.  Apparently not an uncommon thing. Pretty spectacular as it blew up, fortunately our car although nearby was OK!

Shouldn’t have been a tight arse and paid for the undercover secure parking………..

Good grief! I can't imagine living in a place where cars being torched was a common occurrence, and I'd consider having to pay for secure parking to avoid it an imposition. At least anywhere in Australia - it's Ballarat, not Brazil!

[Blue Flu]

6 hours ago, InnerVoice said:

Good grief! I can't imagine living in a place where cars being torched was a common occurrence, and I'd consider having to pay for secure parking to avoid it an imposition. At least anywhere in Australia - it's Ballarat, not Brazil!

Same thing happened but in a quiet suburban street in my former home town down in the south of WA. Fair to say drugs the most likely reason, as that town (termed city) like most all The South is full of drugs and manufacture which tend to result in the increased occurrence of such things. (and worse) 

Interesting you mention Brazil. No Australia is not Brazil, but learning quickly. Large numbers of Brazilians as well as Colombians among others have become increasingly visible at least out West . Only a few years ago I recall remarking on how much Spanish language heard on the streets of Sydney, when almost none over heard at the time in Perth. (not to mention Portuguese)  Those days are long passed  . Numbers have increased as the drug manufacturing business has taken off. I'm sure some will suggest a coincidence , while others will continue to proclaim "what drug manufacturing business" But most honest observers to what is going on will admit drugs are everywhere and posing severe issues on many fronts , others with shall we say an interest to 'muddy the waters' will claim otherwise. 

Also fair to say as foreign cartels gain more leverage that such incidents will likely become more the 'norm' along with worse outcomes as found in other countries. 

 

 

[InnerVoice]

8 hours ago, InnerVoice said:

Good grief! I can't imagine living in a place where cars being torched was a common occurrence, and I'd consider having to pay for secure parking to avoid it an imposition. At least anywhere in Australia - it's Ballarat, not Brazil!

 

1 hour ago, Blue Flu said:

Same thing happened but in a quiet suburban street in my former home town down in the south of WA. Fair to say drugs the most likely reason, as that town (termed city) like most all The South is full of drugs and manufacture which tend to result in the increased occurrence of such things. (and worse) 

Interesting you mention Brazil. No Australia is not Brazil, but learning quickly. Large numbers of Brazilians as well as Colombians among others have become increasingly visible at least out West . Only a few years ago I recall remarking on how much Spanish language heard on the streets of Sydney, when almost none over heard at the time in Perth. (not to mention Portuguese)  Those days are long passed  . Numbers have increased as the drug manufacturing business has taken off. I'm sure some will suggest a coincidence , while others will continue to proclaim "what drug manufacturing business" But most honest observers to what is going on will admit drugs are everywhere and posing severe issues on many fronts , others with shall we say an interest to 'muddy the waters' will claim otherwise. 

Also fair to say as foreign cartels gain more leverage that such incidents will likely become more the 'norm' along with worse outcomes as found in other countries. 

I just mentioned Brazil because it has a high crime rate and begins with a 'B' like Ballarat, so the sentence flowed. I visited Ballarat about 20 years ago and recall it was a nice little town with lots of pretty buildings, and a very good gold mine tour that we did at the time. I was just surprised that it suffers from antisocial behaviour of that nature, but then I guess a lot can change in 20 years.

[Tjsmum]

21 hours ago, Bulya said:

Gets hotter than 43 in South Australia.  Far less humidity than Nth Queensland 

I reckon I could handle the dry heat better than the humid heat of up here, I work a physical job so the moisture in the air adds more to heat and I sweat stacks more….

We will eventually take holidays down there in the “worst” of the seasons, summer and winter to see if it’s “doable” and is the better choice weather wise 

[Tjsmum]

10 hours ago, InnerVoice said:

Good grief! I can't imagine living in a place where cars being torched was a common occurrence, and I'd consider having to pay for secure parking to avoid it an imposition. At least anywhere in Australia - it's Ballarat, not Brazil!

Where we live we’re used to cars being stolen and on the occasion, torched to “destroy” evidence but hearing that a car parked in a hotel getting torched makes me rather concerned..

[Tjsmum]

2 hours ago, InnerVoice said:

 

I just mentioned Brazil because it has a high crime rate and begins with a 'B' like Ballarat, so the sentence flowed. I visited Ballarat about 20 years ago and recall it was a nice little town with lots of pretty buildings, and a very good gold mine tour that we did at the time. I was just surprised that it suffers from antisocial behaviour of that nature, but then I guess a lot can change in 20 years.

We have had the same situation in our town, Times change, society changes…. 
 

Some people I know who have lived in my town all their lives (60+ years) have said that as our town has expressed so has the criminal behaviour, it is everywhere sadly, no where is exempt, for us it is best to gauge which behaviour is the “worst” and how high the status show as for it to be a common occurrence.

 

I have watched prospective residents as about our crime stats on our local community page, and most of us are honest, crime has sky rocketed in the past 2 years, with break and enter and car theft being the highest, this scares off some, others have moved here, I have been victim to theft 3x in those 2 years, but I am grateful it was petty theft, however they once tried to steal our quad which was chained to the carport shelf, by dragging it, I don’t think they had many brain cells, ha ha.

Rhere have also been many nights where I’ve left the car unlocked with purse on display (doh!) and It’s still been there the next day… as this was before we got the dog. 

I would rather live in a town with petty theft than people running around off their face on drugs trying to break into my house to murder me

[InnerVoice]

7 minutes ago, Tjsmum said:

I reckon I could handle the dry heat better than the humid heat of up here, I work a physical job so the moisture in the air adds more to heat and I sweat stacks more….

We will eventually take holidays down there in the “worst” of the seasons, summer and winter to see if it’s “doable” and is the better choice weather wise 

From your original post I got the impression that you were in one of those hell-hole towns inland from Mackay or Townsville, but when I read through the thread yesterday I noticed that you're in Atherton. I've always thought that Atherton was a lovely little town in a beautiful setting, and with it being roughly 800m above sea-level it's usually about 5C cooler than down here in Cairns. I wouldn't describe the climate there as 'cool' by any stretch of the imagination, but it's a lot cooler than anywhere else in FNQ. We stopped overnight once in winter and I recall it getting down to almost single digits!

[Tjsmum]

21 hours ago, Marisawright said:

It's not a weird question. That sizzling feeling isn't the heat, it's the UV.  UV levels are much higher in most of Australia than in the UK and most of Europe.  It's the UV that burns and it can burn just as fast on a cool day as a hot one.  Here's a map of the UV levels in spring in Australia:

My husband is at high risk for skin cancer, which is caused by high UV exposure.  So that explains why we chose Victoria to live in.   From these maps you can see that Victoria is much lower for UV most of the time.   Tasmania would be even better, but not by much.  

@Marisawright

Thank you for the map, yes Tas does look perfect for avoiding the severe UV but we have crossed Tas off the list altogether (sad face) 

Yes, every morning I listen to the news on the radio and it mentions the UV index will reach 13> which is extreme and I sigh! 
Over my decade and a bit here my skin has definitely gotten damaged, silly me didn’t wear much sunscreen in my first 2 years here, back the the UV didn’t affect me, however now I’m always wearing sunscreen, I’m pretty sure I’ve even worn it in winter, mainly in and out fo the car several Times a day for no more than 10mins and if I fail to put on sunscreen my skin sizzles! 

[Tjsmum]

21 hours ago, rammygirl said:

Sure you need sunscreen in summer I check the UV ratings usually worse between 10 and 4. At this time of year I rarely use sunscreen though.  Hats and tops to cover neck and shoulders are good. 

@rammygirl I’ve always got sunscreen on! It makes it even hotter sadly, but I can see the sun damage on several parts of my body, I can’t handle wearing long clothes for the majority of my short lived trips outside, mainly driving for less than 10mins, but if I don’t wear sunscreen my skin sizzles like bacon! 

[Tjsmum]

40 minutes ago, InnerVoice said:

From your original post I got the impression that you were in one of those hell-hole towns inland from Mackay or Townsville, but when I read through the thread yesterday I noticed that you're in Atherton. I've always thought that Atherton was a lovely little town in a beautiful setting, and with it being roughly 800m above sea-level it's usually about 5C cooler than down here in Cairns. I wouldn't describe the climate there as 'cool' by any stretch of the imagination, but it's a lot cooler than anywhere else in FNQ. We stopped overnight once in winter and I recall it getting down to almost single digits!

@InnerVoice I have to say TSV is one of the worst places to live according to my friend who moved away from here to there, crime is insane and it’s Soooooo dry! Brownsville they call it.

I don’t live in Atherton per se, I live in a town on the Atherton tablelands and it does get lovely and cool there in the winter but it’s still uncomfortably hot the rest of the seasons, I prefer Atheron weather to cairns that’s for sure! 
 

It’s so bleh! Every time I go down there, the humidity is constant, day and night…. 

[Bulya]

2 hours ago, Tjsmum said:

I reckon I could handle the dry heat better than the humid heat of up here, I work a physical job so the moisture in the air adds more to heat and I sweat stacks more….

We will eventually take holidays down there in the “worst” of the seasons, summer and winter to see if it’s “doable” and is the better choice weather wise 

I used to run with mates on 40C days here (ACT), you know, “mad dogs and Englishmen”, but doubt I could have done that up north.  Heat doesn’t bother me, humidity does!

Edited April 1, 2023 by Bulya
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[Blue Flu]

On 01/04/2023 at 13:56, InnerVoice said:

 

I just mentioned Brazil because it has a high crime rate and begins with a 'B' like Ballarat, so the sentence flowed. I visited Ballarat about 20 years ago and recall it was a nice little town with lots of pretty buildings, and a very good gold mine tour that we did at the time. I was just surprised that it suffers from antisocial behaviour of that nature, but then I guess a lot can change in 20 years.

I've been to both places. I did not notice anything untoward when visited Ballarat back in 1994. A long time ago and much must have changed. Although hardly there long enough to make much of a value based judgement. My information informs me Country Victoria, as does Country WA,  has seriously high issues of drug activity so expect this may be a flow on. 

[Jennyrose Shields]

Hi we Bought our home in George Town North Tasmania 3 yrs ago using our SMSF . 
We are moving into our home next year . Currently got great tenants and money goes back into the pension. 
Tasmania is quiet . Unspoilt great Air quality and fresh food amazing . 
BUT you must change your mind set . 
Everything is imported from the mainland . This costs money accept it . 
Tasmania had great hospitals University’s and very friendly people . 
Join in church ( once a month service but great for socialising). Find a pub that for quiz nights dart companions . Learn to relax is the biggest  thing to do . 
And explore Tasmania it’s stunning . 
Why George Town 

New  Hospital 

New mother and baby social group 

Sustainability group 

Great schools and universities 

Beach one end and nature the other . 
plenty of interests to try . 
Little penguins to watch at dusk paddle down the beach . 

great variety of fresh meat veg cheese and wine . Buy a larger fridge freezer 

Accept people socialise in their own homes and amazing friendships made . 
 

Great markets and lifestyle. 

Negatives 

You need to book workman 6 mths in advance . 
Transport on the boat all your furniture . We will upgrade out fridge for a larger fridge freezer . 
 

No ALDI

Family and friends visit all the time . And many follow you for the life style change .