Keith and Linda Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Sussex :nah::wink:only kidding, never really been so I will trust you on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amibovered Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Aussie partner! Yourself? Not sure I'd consider myself a successful migrant as we're planning to leave for the third time, but having an Australian partner made life here much easier, particularly when I first arrived. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harpodom Posted August 27, 2014 Author Share Posted August 27, 2014 Not sure I'd consider myself a successful migrant as we're planning to leave for the third time, but having an Australian partner made life here much easier, particularly when I first arrived. Yes. Like selling your UK house, having an Aussie partner effectively shuts down a few easy get out clauses, meaning you HAVE TO persist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harpodom Posted August 27, 2014 Author Share Posted August 27, 2014 What part isn't? hmmmmm, just from our recent visit, the Cotswolds, Sussex, Welsh borders, Hertfordshire, even London, looked much the same as I remembered them. I might go so far as to say exquisitely beautiful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amibovered Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 A passion for pies - I believe that the Gold Coast will shortly have a pie-related theme park called Pie-Land. Heaven! I've had it on good authority that the Chicken and Mushroom Traveller Ride simply pisses all over anything that Alton Towers has got. Owning large numbers of vehicles which can stow or drag stuff. The more the better in my opinion. Something which makes use of the awesomely cheap petrol prices in Australia and can fit in a family of four, a dog, a beer fridge, a Hills Hoist, and a BBQ the size of Mount Martha and enough food to last a nuclear winter, for that perfect weekend away at Bonnydoon. A loathing for environmentalists. Seriously, this is our country. Well it is now we've moved here, and we don't want to hear any more of that greeny **** that you get from Sarah Hanson-Young when we're burning old plasma tellys in our back yards because they're a year old. We're right, she's wrong, and if she happens to be right, then we'll have carked it anyway by the time that Perth becomes the Venice of the Southern Hemisphere. She should just get herself a bloke and have some babies and leave the thinking to us. And all the vehicles should have the exhaust system modified to cause the most annoyance to the greatest number of people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARYROSE02 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Well speaking from someone who has not been a successful migrant and comparing myself to my 2 sisters who have been I would say that they both possess more selfishness (not in a nasty sense of the word) complete disinterest in social issues or world issues, more materialistic, and big desire to have the 'perfect' home with the big backyard - the Aussie dream! Also they both married Australians so that probably sealed the deal too. I have to say that you are being extremely patronising to most Australians, with that list of their 'attributes?' (I hope that is not their good points!' If there was no interest in world affairs and social issues, then the main newspapers - The Australian, Sydney Morning Herald, The Age, etc, and the TV and radio channels, would be devoid of news, whether internal or international. And the government would not be spending so much money on Royal Commissions and ICAC to investigate various issues. And the desire for a beautiful home - 'the Aussie dream' - could also be called 'the Pommie dream', when you consider how Bunnings and B & Q are almost exact copies of each other, both full every day with people doing 'something' to their homes and gardens. Witness, also, the almost identical obsession with gardening, DIY, 'makeover', etc programmes on TV and radio. The towns, suburbs, and countryside may look a little different, but the inhabitants are living exactly the same lives. The only thing I have to change when I move between Australia and OZ, is to start talking about a different football code to my mates in the pub. And even then it's often the same code. You sound like you have not settled into the Aussie way of life? It happens. I went back to England for twelve years, (after eighteen in Sydney.) Going back to England (TO LIVE!) was like emigrating all over again. I'd been back loads of times for holidays, mostly in summer when England is particularly glorious, but to actually 'live' - work, as opposed to 'holiday', is so different. But the lifestyle is exactly the same. You just have to make new friends, get to know a place as a resident rather than a tourist. It was a new village, too, my parents having moved all of seven miles whilst we were in OZ. Now I think of that new village - Marchwood - as where I actually come from, rather than Blackfield, where I was brought up. (On 'The Waterside' on the western edge of Southampton Water and in The New Forest if anybody is interested.) Then I had to do the same thing, a third time, when I came back to Sydney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARYROSE02 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Yorkshire, :notworthy: Is Yorkshire actually part of Britain? I thought they had gained independence long ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harpodom Posted August 28, 2014 Author Share Posted August 28, 2014 .........but it's this adapt or you won't fit in that causes some to feel alien...... ..........there's no need......ime.... ...........where ever you are.........migrant or not...... ...........it's the ability to be yourself........ ...........whilst accepting things may be different....... ...........being able to adapt......without loosing your identity..... ...........and being able to say....... ...........if things don't work out..... ............it was an adventure that shaped my life........not a failure.... .............a successful migrant....... ..............would be a successful person.....where ever they were......! ...............perhaps it's just a mindset......! ................tink X Well said Tink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyHeart Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I have to say that you are being extremely patronising to most Australians, with that list of their 'attributes?' (I hope that is not their good points!' If there was no interest in world affairs and social issues, then the main newspapers - The Australian, Sydney Morning Herald, The Age, etc, and the TV and radio channels, would be devoid of news, whether internal or international. And the government would not be spending so much money on Royal Commissions and ICAC to investigate various issues. And the desire for a beautiful home - 'the Aussie dream' - could also be called 'the Pommie dream', when you consider how Bunnings and B & Q are almost exact copies of each other, both full every day with people doing 'something' to their homes and gardens. Witness, also, the almost identical obsession with gardening, DIY, 'makeover', etc programmes on TV and radio. The towns, suburbs, and countryside may look a little different, but the inhabitants are living exactly the same lives. The only thing I have to change when I move between Australia and OZ, is to start talking about a different football code to my mates in the pub. And even then it's often the same code. You sound like you have not settled into the Aussie way of life? It happens. I went back to England for twelve years, (after eighteen in Sydney.) Going back to England (TO LIVE!) was like emigrating all over again. I'd been back loads of times for holidays, mostly in summer when England is particularly glorious, but to actually 'live' - work, as opposed to 'holiday', is so different. But the lifestyle is exactly the same. You just have to make new friends, get to know a place as a resident rather than a tourist. It was a new village, too, my parents having moved all of seven miles whilst we were in OZ. Now I think of that new village - Marchwood - as where I actually come from, rather than Blackfield, where I was brought up. (On 'The Waterside' on the western edge of Southampton Water and in The New Forest if anybody is interested.) Then I had to do the same thing, a third time, when I came back to Sydney. Great post, common sense goes out of the window on this site...so much mudslinging and assumption of character based on life choices. I have a feeling that is what Dom was trying to convey in his tongue in cheek OP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy1982 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 The bottle to try it in the first place. Then, any/all of the following; not being close to family and friends, not bothered about having things (different things) on your doorstep, dont need to feel part of the rest of the world, like a hot xmas understand that skype is not a substitute in any shape or form prepared to feel isolated and 'left out' from family occasions etc theres more but I dont want to get abused by certain types. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy1982 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Coming from a $hit part of Britain? This is the main one for sure. I always say its more about where you come from rather than where you are going to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harpodom Posted August 28, 2014 Author Share Posted August 28, 2014 Great post, common sense goes out of the window on this site...so much mudslinging and assumption of character based on life choices. I have a feeling that is what Dom was trying to convey in his tongue in cheek OP. Not really Fi TBH I'm not sure why I started the thread but something must have triggered it, perhaps reading a post with something about 'Team Australia'? I dunno. In reality, it takes all sorts to succeed, that's obvious. But IMO there is a collective assumption on the site that a migrant needs to 'conform' to a certain way of thinking/behaving in order to fit in here. On the face of it that's not unreasonable. But really it's BS. You don't have to be right wing, anti intellectual, anti science, anti environment, anti UN, anti human rights, anti asylum seeker, anti immigration to fit in here, even though the current PM might insinuate that (or at least allow people to arrive at that conclusion). You just might need to look a bit harder to find like minded souls. Or you might not, I don't know. There are plenty of dissenting voices among the Australians I know. Ironically the most rabidly pro right wing people I've met in person have been either English or 'New Australians' from Eastern Europe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy1982 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I forgot to add the desire to become an aussie the moment you step off the plane and overnight develop an understanding and love of AFL and rugby league. Refer to yourself and/or fellow english people as pommies or bloody pommies (thats my favourite) constantly put the uk down and fail to understand that anyone who likes,still lives or wants to go back to the UK as "bloody idiots" over uses the word arvo from day 1 of living here, owns a V8. At all times refuses to admit that they miss anything about home or that home is remotely better...when sometimes the evidence is clear as day. Told you there was more... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyHeart Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Not really Fi TBH I'm not sure why I started the thread but something must have triggered it, perhaps reading a post with something about 'Team Australia'? I dunno. In reality, it takes all sorts to succeed, that's obvious. But IMO there is a collective assumption on the site that a migrant needs to 'conform' to a certain way of thinking/behaving in order to fit in here. On the face of it that's not unreasonable. But really it's BS. You don't have to be right wing, anti intellectual, anti science, anti environment, anti UN, anti human rights, anti asylum seeker, anti immigration to fit in here, even though the current PM might insinuate that (or at least allow people to arrive at that conclusion). You just might need to look a bit harder to find like minded souls. Or you might not, I don't know. There are plenty of dissenting voices among the Australians I know. Ironically the most rabidly pro right wing people I've met in person have been either English or 'New Australians' from Eastern Europe! Yes, I guess my post didn't convey what I meant very well. I agree with your post and it echoes what I meant to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibbs Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Successful British immigrant? Wanting to better yourself. Hard working. Coming to Australia because of what it is, not what you want it to be. Sense of adventure. Love of the outdoors (socialising, exploring, entertainment). "give it a go" attitude. Not be a whining, condescending, "it's not like this back home", "I'm better than you" idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy1982 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 What part isn't? oh dear....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harpodom Posted August 28, 2014 Author Share Posted August 28, 2014 I forgot to add the desire to become an aussie the moment you step off the plane and overnight develop an understanding and love of AFL and rugby league. Refer to yourself and/or fellow english people as pommies or bloody pommies (thats my favourite) constantly put the uk down and fail to understand that anyone who likes,still lives or wants to go back to the UK as "bloody idiots" over uses the word arvo from day 1 of living here, owns a V8. At all times refuses to admit that they miss anything about home or that home is remotely better...when sometimes the evidence is clear as day. Told you there was more... Yeah, homo charlatanus Never trust him, he'll skin you alive if you turn your back on him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith and Linda Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 1) BRITISH 2) AUSTRALIAN Embrace both or it will not work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katie22 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I have to say that you are being extremely patronising to most Australians, with that list of their 'attributes?' (I hope that is not their good points!' If there was no interest in world affairs and social issues, then the main newspapers - The Australian, Sydney Morning Herald, The Age, etc, and the TV and radio channels, would be devoid of news, whether internal or international. And the government would not be spending so much money on Royal Commissions and ICAC to investigate various issues. And the desire for a beautiful home - 'the Aussie dream' - could also be called 'the Pommie dream', when you consider how Bunnings and B & Q are almost exact copies of each other, both full every day with people doing 'something' to their homes and gardens. Witness, also, the almost identical obsession with gardening, DIY, 'makeover', etc programmes on TV and radio. The towns, suburbs, and countryside may look a little different, but the inhabitants are living exactly the same lives. The only thing I have to change when I move between Australia and OZ, is to start talking about a different football code to my mates in the pub. And even then it's often the same code. You sound like you have not settled into the Aussie way of life? It happens. I went back to England for twelve years, (after eighteen in Sydney.) Going back to England (TO LIVE!) was like emigrating all over again. I'd been back loads of times for holidays, mostly in summer when England is particularly glorious, but to actually 'live' - work, as opposed to 'holiday', is so different. But the lifestyle is exactly the same. You just have to make new friends, get to know a place as a resident rather than a tourist. It was a new village, too, my parents having moved all of seven miles whilst we were in OZ. Now I think of that new village - Marchwood - as where I actually come from, rather than Blackfield, where I was brought up. (On 'The Waterside' on the western edge of Southampton Water and in The New Forest if anybody is interested.) Then I had to do the same thing, a third time, when I came back to Sydney. i'm really sorry if I offended anyone as certainly didn't mean to be patronising about Aussies at all, just stating my opinion on why people I know have succeeded and I haven't - please don't take me so literally! And you're right I haven't settled here at all, I've given it many years but still feel the same. Most Brits do and good luck to them - you included! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I forgot to add the desire to become an aussie the moment you step off the plane and overnight develop an understanding and love of AFL and rugby league. Refer to yourself and/or fellow english people as pommies or bloody pommies (thats my favourite) constantly put the uk down and fail to understand that anyone who likes,still lives or wants to go back to the UK as "bloody idiots" over uses the word arvo from day 1 of living here, owns a V8. At all times refuses to admit that they miss anything about home or that home is remotely better...when sometimes the evidence is clear as day. Told you there was more... Agree with most of that although saying that I already enjoyed AFL and Rugby League, so I guess i'm guilty there. Do hate the pretend Aussies who develop an accent within a week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petals Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Being a child and doing what one is told ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest66881 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 A massive bank balance, happy go lucky carefree couldn't give a ***** ass what anyone thinks helps i suppose, for us it was just a natural migration from living a day to day to living a comfortable lifestyle, a certain amount of conformance is required as things are naturally different here, afterall it is a foreign country to the one you moved from remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy1982 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I have to say that you are being extremely patronising to most Australians, with that list of their 'attributes?' (I hope that is not their good points!' If there was no interest in world affairs and social issues, then the main newspapers - The Australian, Sydney Morning Herald, The Age, etc, and the TV and radio channels, would be devoid of news, whether internal or international. And the government would not be spending so much money on Royal Commissions and ICAC to investigate various issues. And the desire for a beautiful home - 'the Aussie dream' - could also be called 'the Pommie dream', when you consider how Bunnings and B & Q are almost exact copies of each other, both full every day with people doing 'something' to their homes and gardens. Witness, also, the almost identical obsession with gardening, DIY, 'makeover', etc programmes on TV and radio. The towns, suburbs, and countryside may look a little different, but the inhabitants are living exactly the same lives. The only thing I have to change when I move between Australia and OZ, is to start talking about a different football code to my mates in the pub. And even then it's often the same code. You sound like you have not settled into the Aussie way of life? It happens. I went back to England for twelve years, (after eighteen in Sydney.) Going back to England (TO LIVE!) was like emigrating all over again. I'd been back loads of times for holidays, mostly in summer when England is particularly glorious, but to actually 'live' - work, as opposed to 'holiday', is so different. But the lifestyle is exactly the same. You just have to make new friends, get to know a place as a resident rather than a tourist. It was a new village, too, my parents having moved all of seven miles whilst we were in OZ. Now I think of that new village - Marchwood - as where I actually come from, rather than Blackfield, where I was brought up. (On 'The Waterside' on the western edge of Southampton Water and in The New Forest if anybody is interested.) Then I had to do the same thing, a third time, when I came back to Sydney. MARYROSE02, are you Australian? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 A love of 'water sports'? Coming from a $hit part of Britain? A hatred of cold weather? Being married to an Australian? A hankering for 'the good old days'? A deep sense of self loathing? Being 'anti immigration'? A positive attitude? Being a disaffected tradie? Having eye-wateringly right wing political views? WHICH ONE??! Or have I missed anything? An old Aussie told me the secret many moons ago. "If you want to do well in Australia keep your head down and arse up and don't trust no bast..d." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Just realising one thing. It's better. :laugh: Just realising that, that is the only opinion the locals are interested in hearing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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