Prospective Marriage Sponsored By Parents?

[narbri]

Hello,

 

My fiance and I are looking to apply for the prospective marriage visa. I am Australian and an Australian citizen living in the UK with my fiance.

I am not working here in the UK as I'm wanting to go back to Aus to work, but I wanted to know if my parents are able to sponsor my fiance on the application. We will living with them when we go back.

They are able to provide evidence of accommodation and financial support, but would that be allowed?

On the visa website, it only mentions the partner as being eligible to be the sponsor and doesn't mention any alternatives.

 

Thanks.

[vickyplum]

As far as I am aware, for partner visa applications (de facto, prospective marriage) the sponsor has to be the Australian citizen. But someone with more info will be along soon I'm sure - it's still very early in Australia!

[narbri]

Thanks for your response. I should have mentioned that I am an Australian and a citizen also.

[scattley]

Only your fiancée can sponsor you and he needs to be an Australian citizen or PR living in Australia. His parents cannot sponsor you as you are not marrying them.

[Pumpkin]

No your parents cannot sponsor him, you sponsor him.

[lebourvellec]

You are the sponsor. If you are already living together possibly the pmv may not be the best option and you should look at eligibility for the partner visa.

[narbri]

Thanks for all the responses. As I am not working and cannot provide employment details, am I able to provide bank statements as evidence that I have the funds to support my fiance financially?

And if so, how much would be sufficient?

[Pumpkin]

Thanks for all the responses. As I am not working and cannot provide employment details, am I able to provide bank statements as evidence that I have the funds to support my fiance financially?

And if so, how much would be sufficient?

 

What financial requirements are you referring to? Have you read about what is required on http://www.immi.gov.au?

[narbri]

What financial requirements are you referring to? Have you read about what is required on www.immi.gov.au?

 

 

On the Sponsorship for a partner to migrate to Australia form 40SP, it says;

 

'The information requested on this form, including documents relating to your employment and income, will assist the decision-maker in deciding whether you are able to meet these obligations.'

and

 

'If your fiancé(e) applies for and is granted a Prospective Marriage visa, as sponsor you will be responsible for all financial obligations to the Commonwealth that your fiancé(e) might incur during the period he/she is in Australia.'

 

So because I am unable to provide the documents regarding employment and income as I don't have either, would a bank statement be enough to support and cover the finance part of the sponsor application?

[narbri]

On the Sponsorship for a partner to migrate to Australia form 40SP, it says;

 

'The information requested on this form, including documents relating to your employment and income, will assist the decision-maker in deciding whether you are able to meet these obligations'

 

and

 

'If your fiancé(e) applies for and is granted a Prospective Marriage visa, as sponsor you will be responsible for all financial obligations to the Commonwealth that your fiancé(e) might incur during the period he/she is in Australia.'

 

As I am unable to produce these documents as I am not working and do not have an income, would a bank statement be enough to support the sponsor application and provide evidence of funds to support my fiance?

[engaus]

Unlike the UK there is no financial requirement for the sponsor to be earning a certain amount of money - or have a certain amount in the bank. I'd suggest you read the partner visa booklet which will give you a clear idea of what's needed for the visa. If you have been living together akin to marriage for 12 months I'd suggest the partner visa over the PMV

[engaus]

On the Sponsorship for a partner to migrate to Australia form 40SP, it says;

 

'The information requested on this form, including documents relating to your employment and income, will assist the decision-maker in deciding whether you are able to meet these obligations'

 

and

 

'If your fiancé(e) applies for and is granted a Prospective Marriage visa, as sponsor you will be responsible for all financial obligations to the Commonwealth that your fiancé(e) might incur during the period he/she is in Australia.'

 

As I am unable to produce these documents as I am not working and do not have an income, would a bank statement be enough to support the sponsor application and provide evidence of funds to support my fiance?

 

you simply tick a box online to say you agree to take financial responsibility of your partner. I had my partner visa granted in June this year, I am the sponsor and supplied not a single bit of evidence to show I had a job (even though I was employed full time).

[narbri]

Thanks for the info. We were informed at an expo about immigration to Australia that the Prospective Marriage Visa would be the best option for us and less complicated than the partner visa.

But now seeing that we could apply for a partner visa as a defacto couple (been living together for more than 12 months), it seems to be a better option.

 

Which visa would you say is the better option in your opinion. With the prospective marriage visa, it seems a marriage once in Australia would be rushed.

[engaus]

Thanks for the info. We were informed at an expo about immigration to Australia that the Prospective Marriage Visa would be the best option for us and less complicated than the partner visa.

But now seeing that we could apply for a partner visa as a defacto couple (been living together for more than 12 months), it seems to be a better option.

 

Which visa would you say is the better option in your opinion. With the prospective marriage visa, it seems a marriage once in Australia would be rushed.

 

If you have all of the information - joint bills, tenancy agreements, intertwined finances I don't see why you would go for the PMV. If you applied for the PMV you would have that granted, come to Australia, have 9 months to get married and then have to apply for the partner visa anyway (granted by that stage it's less evidence required) - but if it were me I'd definitely be applying for the defacto visa, you can get married in your own time an it's one less step.

 

So I'd say go the partner visa based on your defacto relationship.

[Guest]

Thanks for the info. We were informed at an expo about immigration to Australia that the Prospective Marriage Visa would be the best option for us and less complicated than the partner visa.

But now seeing that we could apply for a partner visa as a defacto couple (been living together for more than 12 months), it seems to be a better option.

 

Which visa would you say is the better option in your opinion. With the prospective marriage visa, it seems a marriage once in Australia would be rushed.

 

If you don't want to rush to marry and have met the de facto requirements, I'd go the de facto route tbh. Its a no brainer for me.

 

Its not difficult, just requires you to compile all the evidence, get the stat decs and so on. Have a good read of the partner visa booklet as it explains all.

 

And again, same thing as has been explained by others re finances etc applies for you as the sponsor. Don't panic about it.

[narbri]

Thanks. There are 4 catergories that they ask you to provide evidence from to prove that your relationship is genuine.

1 - financial aspects;

2 - the nature of the household;

3 - social context of the relationship; and

4 - the nature of your commitment to each other.

 

Out of the four, we are unable to provide anything from the first as my partner has supported me financially for the past 12 months. We do not have any joint accounts or bills.

 

For the second, we are able to provide statements from ourselves, friends and family outlining our living arrangements and the basis on which responsibility for housework is distributed.

 

And we have enough evidence to provide for three and four.

[Guest]

Stat decs from people who know you don't need to contain the household responsibility or anything. Print off a stat dec form so you can see what they want from others. It your statement and your partners needs to contain all that info.

 

Re the finances. Does your partner transfer money to you? Can you show you are resident at the same address? Ie your own bank statement or bill delivered to the same address as your partner ? Are you named on his car insurance? You really need something that shows you there, that is officially recognised. Are you named on the council tax as resident at the property?

 

It's fine he supports you but you both need to be able to show this. So him transferring money into your account for food shopping or to pay your mobile bill or something is handy.

[narbri]

My name isn't on the council taxes. We do not have a car so no insurance and i do not have a bank account. The only letter I have with our address is when I received my national insurance number.

[narbri]

I do have evidence that I've transferred money through PayPal to his account several times. Would that count as evidence also or does it have to be more official than Paypal?

[Guest]

Do you rent? If so, look into if a stat dec from the landlord could cut it in terms of vouching for you being resident at the same address as your partner for the time frame you are listing.

 

ETA - I recall one couple who, though married were living with one set of parents. So no bills, no officially recognised overheads paid by themselves as such. The parent wrote a (legallay witnessed) statement that explained the living arrangement.

[narbri]

The housing co-op doesn't know I am a resident here either. If my partner does notify them, he will receive a bill/statement that will have my name listed as a resident here.

Will that be ok?

[Guest]

The housing co-op doesn't know I am a resident here either. If my partner does notify them, he will receive a bill/statement that will have my name listed as a resident here.

Will that be ok?

 

I don't know. If it starts from the date you inform them, then no, as it most likely won't cover the entire timeframe you need to meet.

 

I get you live together and are de facto, but that you have so little proper paper evidence that can actually back this up is not ideal. Its about being a couple, sharing a life and everything else. If you've not worked and been supported by your partner, fine, but no bank account of your own, nothing in your name at the address, it doesn't help your application. Do you have even a mobile phone contract in your name at the address?

 

I'd expect as de facto to share bills or have some kind of paper trail that can show this, even if its houekeeping tranfers between accounts or some such. If its been cash or he has simply paid at the time, you'd need to state this but I don't know how a CO will view it.

 

Honestly as de facto, in my mind, you should have been on the housing co op register from the day you moved in. Not because it can now help you build your visa application paperwork but because you are a couple living together. Those sort of things are things I would just do if I was living with someone who is supposed to be to all intents and purposes my husband. I get lots of people don't do this and never think it will be a problem but to me, as a couple it just makes sense to take those steps of committing to each other. That is nothing visa related, just me

[CollegeGirl]

So you don't have your own bank account - but you must spend money SOMEHOW. No joint bank account with him? You're not on his bank account or credit cards as an authorized user? Surely you have SOME way of spending money - that would be your paper trail.

[vickyplum]

for the partner visa, my boyfriend was not required to show any evidence of employment or income. He provided a brief statement somewhere on one of the forms (cannot remember where but I'll try to find out) which basically said he will support me financially if necessary and we can stay with relatives if we cannot afford to finance our own home. I'm paraphrasing but that was the gist of it.

 

I'll try and dig out the form/section where he included this info.

[vickyplum]

if you look on page 13 of the 40sp form, you sign it and by signing, you are agreeing to assist your partner financially and in relation to accommodation for the first two years (your partner visa will be reassessed two years after application).