Perthbum Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Anyone who finds Australia too hot should come to Melbourne between April and December. i have heard it is like the uk but wetter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellybingobingo Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 humble apologies Belinda , the post wasn't directed at you , just a life observation Who was it directed @then If it was me I if I decide oz is for me will buy a house when the time is right , I still have my house in uk also , and you bust ya gut anywhere for a mortgage everyone is a slave to the bank in some form or another unless you are minted , and unless ya me mother in law who still thinks a bottle of milk is 10 shilling , anyway not decided what to do yet it will b a while till a buy here 18 month plus , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belinda Au Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 humble apologies Belinda , the post wasn't directed at you , just a life observation No need for apologies, Bunbury - in fact, I do agree with you (she says as she gets ready for Uni and another night shift!!) errgghhh.... need coffee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belinda Au Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Who was it directed @then If it was me I if I decide oz is for me will buy a house when the time is right , I still have my house in uk also , and you bust ya gut anywhere for a mortgage everyone is a slave to the bank in some form or another unless you are minted , and unless ya me mother in law who still thinks a bottle of milk is 10 shilling , anyway not decided what to do yet it will b a while till a buy here 18 month plus , I think that is what is annoying an ever increasing number, Shelly - that "feeling" of being a slave to corporates - bank or otherwise. Working like a maniac for the next 12-18 months (and some serious planning on my part!) could see me completely debt-free at the end of that time so it's worth the effort I'm putting into it. I'm not a home-owner but I gave up on that here years ago. Still, being free of debt is a lovely thing to aim for these days! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellybingobingo Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I think that is what is annoying an ever increasing number, Shelly - that "feeling" of being a slave to corporates - bank or otherwise. Working like a maniac for the next 12-18 months (and some serious planning on my part!) could see me completely debt-free at the end of that time so it's worth the effort I'm putting into it. I'm not a home-owner but I gave up on that here years ago. Still, being free of debt is a lovely thing to aim for these days! It it is a lovely thing to aim for Belinda and good on you , and apologies to Bunbury still want a house here though I do if I decide it's for me a long shot off yet things may change at the moment not a good time because I'm not completely sold on the place yet and with the job market wobbly and I think houses will come down I will see how it goes , but I hate renting that's for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belinda Au Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 It it is a lovely thing to aim for Belinda and good on you , and apologies to Bunbury still want a house here though I do if I decide it's for me a long shot off yet things may change at the moment not a good time because I'm not completely sold on the place yet and with the job market wobbly and I think houses will come down I will see how it goes , but I hate renting that's for sure It's a bit of a downside with renting, not being able to do little things like paint or hang some art and stuff like that .... and, it's just not your own place, you know? Having said that, where I am now, the landlord is pretty good to me so I can't complain on that score. Good thinking though... if you're no sold on the place yet, no need to get married to a mortgage! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellybingobingo Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 It's a bit of a downside with renting, not being able to do little things like paint or hang some art and stuff like that .... and, it's just not your own place, you know? Having said that, where I am now, the landlord is pretty good to me so I can't complain on that score. Good thinking though... if you're no sold on the place yet, no need to get married to a mortgage! Its good if you have a good landlord , mind you I had a good one in wa but still wasn't allowed put nothing on the walls , and it's just a horrible feeling when you walk in of no home comforts , and I think it is part of a settling process here to feel at home but I'm deffo not feeling that yet , no not sold on the place yet so I'll see how we go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belinda Au Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Its good if you have a good landlord , mind you I had a good one in wa but still wasn't allowed put nothing on the walls , and it's just a horrible feeling when you walk in of no home comforts , and I think it is part of a settling process here to feel at home but I'm deffo not feeling that yet , no not sold on the place yet so I'll see how we go True, I'm not either - maybe I'm just used to the "you can't do this, you can't do that" thing with renting that I don't think about it so much anymore now. Good luck with it though - I hope you enjoy it here... and if not, that you find the place that's just right for you. :biggrin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellybingobingo Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 True, I'm not either - maybe I'm just used to the "you can't do this, you can't do that" thing with renting that I don't think about it so much anymore now. Good luck with it though - I hope you enjoy it here... and if not, that you find the place that's just right for you. :biggrin:[/ thanks and and good luck to you too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Born in OZ as well and far from impressed the way the nation has gone over the past decade. hmmm.... have to say I agree with the above comment. I can't quite put my finger on it, but yeah. I have travelled much as you have done... perhaps it depends on the areas... some places are more insular than others, but for a country with loads of open space and lots of other things to do, there doesn't seem to be a whole lot in the way of socialising going on. strange. Perhaps it's all the space. Easy avoidance. The structure of sprawling cities doesn't help in social aspects either. Folk a little shy and perhaps not as socialized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Anyone who finds Australia too hot should come to Melbourne between April and December. Just don't come between December and March if you don't want your skin to melt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunbury61 Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Who was it directed @then If it was me I if I decide oz is for me will buy a house when the time is right , I still have my house in uk also , and you bust ya gut anywhere for a mortgage everyone is a slave to the bank in some form or another unless you are minted , and unless ya me mother in law who still thinks a bottle of milk is 10 shilling , anyway not decided what to do yet it will b a while till a buy here 18 month plus , shelly ...it wasn't directed at you either ....just a general rant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaceyGC Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) My husband and I have 3 kids 8, 14, and 16. We’ve had an easy 8 years in OZ. In the time we have been in Australia we have started our own business, bought our own home, and the kids go to wonderful schools. We have been incredibly lucky with the opportunities Australia has offered us. However, as a family our lifestyle feels incomplete. Without family around us everything seems less enjoyable, and not as fulfilling, especially during the holiday seasons. ‘Great weather,resort lifestyle and one of the highest average wages in the world.’ The summer months here in QLD can be a killer; it's just too hot, and the humidity is tiring. The pools are great but not so much on my hair and skin. We spend most of our time during the summer indoors with the air-con on or at Westfield because the air -con is free. ($1000 a 1/4 electricity bill does that to you) Although this is a minute and petty reason, choosing a holiday destination for us became less appealing as the climate and lifestyle we are constantly surrounded by is filled with tourism.This therefore ruined our feeling of authenticity and excitement that one relates to holidays. The biggest thing as a family that we are all in agreement with is, saying goodbye to the people we love is shattering, be it a letter, phone call, or an airport goodbye. Why do we put ourselves through such heartache just for climate and lifestyle? Edited April 23, 2014 by StaceyGC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellybingobingo Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 My husband and I have 3 kids 8, 14, and 16. We’ve had an easy 8 years in OZ. In the time we have been in Australia we have started our own business, bought our own home, and the kids go to wonderful schools. We have been incredibly lucky with the opportunities Australia has offered us. However, as a family our lifestyle feels incomplete. Without family around us everything seems less enjoyable, and not as fulfilling, especially during the holiday seasons. ‘Great weather,resort lifestyle and one of the highest average wages in the world.’ The summer months here in QLD can be a killer; it's just too hot, and the humidity is tiring. The pools are great but not so much on my hair and skin. We spend most of our time during the summer indoors with the air-con on or at Westfield because the air -con is free. ($1000 a 1/4 electricity bill does that to you) Although this is a minute and petty reason, choosing a holiday destination for us became less appealing as the climate and lifestyle we are constantly surrounded by is filled with tourism.This therefore ruined our feeling of authenticity and excitement that one relates to holidays. The biggest thing as a family that we are all in agreement with is, saying goodbye to the people we love is shattering, be it a letter, phone call, or an airport goodbye. Why do we put ourselves through such heartache just for climate and lifestyle? Agree eed with everything u said completely , however I'm a sun lover a careful sun lover but it does make me smile , but knackers my hair , conditioning treatments , leave in conditioner and Moroccan oil does it good , but 8 yrs ago I would agree completely oppertunities and booming , however they are becoming less and less and not so appealing here to some people anymore , my hubby is a contractor and on a good hrly rate , was a contractor in uk on a good hrly rate in fact in the uk he could probably get a hrly rate right now slightly more than the hrly rate here when converted back into pounds , I just had higher expectations a bit niaeve maybe , but people my hubby worked and works with here have said we haven't seen it like this for years a few years ago it was bums on seats and name ya price , well them days are well over , I'm not being ungrateful just don't want go backwards after working hard to get where we were in uk , and throw in cost of rent or a mortgage here worse off cost of living wise although I'm quite a good shopper but never the less I don't go in shops oh I will av that this week or that for the kids every week like I did b4 in uk , but I will hang on for citezenship now I at least want something out of what I've ploughed into it just in case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 The summer months here in QLD can be a killer; it's just too hot, and the humidity is tiring. The pools are great but not so much on my hair and skin. We spend most of our time during the summer indoors with the air-con on or at Westfield because the air -con is free. ($1000 a 1/4 electricity bill does that to you) Yes, I read all the posts from would-be migrants saying they're moving for "life in the sun", and they don't realise how quickly they'll get tired of it! Of course, some people will revel in the heat, but many people will find themselves spending far more time indoors than they ever expected. It's one thing to have a lovely holiday in a hot climate, because you're lazing around most of the time. It's quite another to have to commute on the train, or lug shopping bags, or even go for a walk, when the temperature is over 30 degrees and the humidity is at 60% or 70% or (in Qld) even more. It's not just the humidity: because of the tilt of the earth, the sun in Oz is much fiercer than it is in the UK/Europe, so you burn faster (and that's also the reason skin cancer is such a huge risk here). I wonder if parents realize they'll be taking their kids to the beach kitted out in long-sleeved rash suits, slathered in SPF50? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petals Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Not all of Australia is hot and humid, the thing is its such a huge place that we have all different climates and if you choose one that is tropical near the coast you get the humidity. If you choose Perth, Adelaide or Melbourne you get very little humidity. Humidity is the thing that most people find uncomfortable with heat. The sun is fiercest in summer but the spring, autumn and winter sun is fine. This time of the year in Melbourne its great to sit in the sun. Then again Melbourne is the place to live in my opinion, would get fed up of wearing summer clothes all year around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conniebygaslight Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Prefer the UK...by a country mile. A friend of mine has just moved to Australia and I have wished her well, she may settle, she may not. We are all different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy1982 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 We all have different reasons. Expect the main one is family, you never realise how important they are until they are not there anymore. Also maybe a small proportion of us are sentimental, patriotic and just miss the place - that's me Got it in one Katie22 My wife said the other day, "how perfect would it be if our family just moved here"...it would help with the grandparents issue for sure but for me, I actually miss England too, (queue the 'mad' comments) the countryside and the diversity in such a short distant travelled.... For me, being here has given me a taster of what it will be like once my parents etc have passed away, not seeing them...and the fact that at this time this is down to me choosing to live here is making me question whether to go back. I dont dislike Australia at all, its hard to, but I do like England, and its just ticks more boxes than Aus at this point in our lives with 2 young children. Its taken this move to make us realise what we had before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aorange Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Prefer the UK...by a country mile. A friend of mine has just moved to Australia and I have wished her well, she may settle, she may not. We are all different. Totally agree in that we are all different (which is a healthy thing) and I respect peoples view points - for us we prefer Oz by not quite a country mile more like a kilometre, but just as I embrace all the positives of Australia I appreciate all the niceties and good experiences of the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy1982 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 The biggest thing as a family that we are all in agreement with is, saying goodbye to the people we love is shattering, be it a letter, phone call, or an airport goodbye. Why do we put ourselves through such heartache just for climate and lifestyle? too true... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy1982 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 (edited) I think Australia, well gold coast in my experience IS a great place to live and if you have a good job it can be near 'perfect'...but only if you are born here and know no different and/or have family here too. Otherwise the weather, beaches etc are just over shadowed by missing family IMO. If we dont move back to the UK Im pretty sure that when my time is up (only 31 now, so hopefully many years to go yet) i will wish for one more day/hour with a family member rather than 1 more day on the beach! In the uk i LOVED the sun and hated the rain and drizzle...but now I find the sun boring, relentless and the constant application of sunscreen a pain in the arse, making me all sticky as i go off to work. The sun is no longer a novelty and we dont pack up and do x or y on a sunny weekend as weve 'always got next week'..and in fact with the constant sunshine I would say that we do less than we did in the UK as you try to cram in so much there when the sun shines ! One thing I will disagree with though is people who say "you will spend more time indoors in aus due to the sun than you did in uk due to the rain" Firstly we never let the weather, even rain stop us doing anything in the UK, including BBQs. And yes, it gets hot here in oz, we all knew that but not so hot that we've 'had to stay in' we just cream up (not enjoyable but hey) take plenty of cold water and do things accordingly, be it swimming in the creeks or walks in the rainforests in the shade. Ive said it before and will say it again. Its not a better life here just different. Aus gives you the beaches and weather, uk gives you the countryside and seasons...one of lifes natural experiences at its best. 4 lifestyles in one year and in one place. Dare I say it but the weather here is boring! I love wearing shorts and flip-flops (not thongs!!!!!!) but all day everyday hmmm??? Anyway, ill end here as i could go on.....and on....and on..... Edited April 25, 2014 by wattsy1982 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 (edited) I think people leave for a range of reasons and some are the reasons that they actually moved to Oz for in the first place. In my time on here these are some examples i have come across:Toussaint's 5 eggs... 1. The weather, but then found it is too hot for them - also see point 2, was never around to enjoy it and although better summers than the UK, def not the Mediterranean climate of referred to with respect to Perth. 2. Better work life balance, but then found they were working longer hours than they had before - Deffo, lost precious family time I will never get back, last two years probably away from home 60-70% of the time, whilst working locally there was an obsession with long hours and weekend work (even if not producing much) 3. More money, but then found they are worse off financialy (seen this one a number of times), not necessarily worse off, but spending habits change with more disposable income and then one feels one is entitled to reward oneself when working so damm hard for it 4. Better environment for the children, then realised it isnt some utopia and it is still a first world country with first world problems - Don't get me started on this one, a) too personal and b) bad things happened to several expat children we knew moving at secondary school age. The rest I shall keep to myself 5. Better politics (yes i have seen that given as a reason), then they arrive and see the standard of the pollies 6. Better education, then find its not much different and some find it worse Personal experience a good UK comprehensive is infinitely better than the three southern suburb private schools we had experience of Could go on, but won't! Edited May 2, 2014 by Toussaint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echidna66 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Um...Increasing taxes, forced private health insurance, no pension until 70 years old, a corrupt govt who can NEVER be trusted, and on and on it goes with much more to come in the negative unfortunately... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Finalproof Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 I think Australia, well gold coast in my experience IS a great place to live and if you have a good job it can be near 'perfect'...but only if you are born here and know no different and/or have family here too. Otherwise the weather, beaches etc are just over shadowed by missing family IMO. If we dont move back to the UK Im pretty sure that when my time is up (only 31 now, so hopefully many years to go yet) i will wish for one more day/hour with a family member rather than 1 more day on the beach! In the uk i LOVED the sun and hated the rain and drizzle...but now I find the sun boring, relentless and the constant application of sunscreen a pain in the arse, making me all sticky as i go off to work. The sun is no longer a novelty and we dont pack up and do x or y on a sunny weekend as weve 'always got next week'..and in fact with the constant sunshine I would say that we do less than we did in the UK as you try to cram in so much there when the sun shines ! One thing I will disagree with though is people who say "you will spend more time indoors in aus due to the sun than you did in uk due to the rain" Firstly we never let the weather, even rain stop us doing anything in the UK, including BBQs. And yes, it gets hot here in oz, we all knew that but not so hot that we've 'had to stay in' we just cream up (not enjoyable but hey) take plenty of cold water and do things accordingly, be it swimming in the creeks or walks in the rainforests in the shade. Ive said it before and will say it again. Its not a better life here just different. Aus gives you the beaches and weather, uk gives you the countryside and seasons...one of lifes natural experiences at its best. 4 lifestyles in one year and in one place. Dare I say it but the weather here is boring! I love wearing shorts and flip-flops (not thongs!!!!!!) but all day everyday hmmm??? Anyway, ill end here as i could go on.....and on....and on..... Don't understand seasons comment when much of Australia has four seasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest66881 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Heat stroke maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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