GezMag Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Absolutely gutted! 70 points as an ICT project manager; rejected! The email below doesn't look like I have any options at all. Good luck to all of you who successfully move to Australia. Thank you for your application for Victorian Government nomination under the 190 - Skilled Nominated visa scheme. Following a review of your application, we regret to inform you that you have not been selected for visa nomination by the Victorian Government. Your application for Victorian Government state nomination was reviewed individually and assessed with a focus on your ability to address a number of criteria, including: your ability to meet the minimum eligibility criteria, the demand for your particular skills and expertise, and your ability to find work in Victoria, the suitability and transferability of your qualifications, skills and experience – including any specialist capabilities – to the needs of Victoria’s labour market, your ability and commitment to establishing yourself, and any dependents, in Victoria the number of nomination applications received relative to the number of nomination places available for your occupation. Victoria receives a high number of very strong applications for state nomination and only the very highest calibre candidates with the strongest skills, experience and opportunity for finding work in Victoria’s labour market are selected for Victorian state nomination. The Victorian Government uses independent industry panels to provide advice on the suitability of applicants to Victoria’s labour market. These industry representatives also provide advice on the demand for individual applicants’ qualifications, skills and experience, and prospects for employment in Victoria. While your application demonstrated your ability to meet the minimum eligibility requirements for Victorian state nomination, other applicants were able to more adequately demonstrate their suitability for employment in Victoria. There are other visa pathways for highly skilled workers who want to live and work in Victoria and we encourage you to investigate other visa options on the Department of Immigration and Border Protection (DIBP) website: http://www.immi.gov.au. We wish you all the best for your future endeavours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xlornax Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Have u no other visa options?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samlk Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 This looks like a common reason for all VIC rejections. I think they are very selective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KristofH Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 disappointing news idd, we were in the same boat 2 years ago. VIC is very selective, as they point out on their website: no guarantees If possible, try applying for another state, worked for us :biggrin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERYSTORMY Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 I would def try another state Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Sorry to hear that :cry: I am pretty sure South Australia have just added ICT Project Manager to their list of state sponsored occupations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddieb7 Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Absolutely gutted! 70 points as an ICT project manager; rejected!.... Was your 70 points including the 5 points from State Nomination? If so, you would still have 65 points to apply for a 189 (rather than the 190). I believe the processing time for 189 is pretty much the same as the 190 nowadays.. https://www.immi.gov.au/about/charters/client-services-charter/visas/8.0.htm Cheers Eddie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GezMag Posted April 9, 2014 Author Share Posted April 9, 2014 Was your 70 points including the 5 points from State Nomination?If so, you would still have 65 points to apply for a 189 (rather than the 190). I believe the processing time for 189 is pretty much the same as the 190 nowadays.. https://www.immi.gov.au/about/charters/client-services-charter/visas/8.0.htm Cheers Eddie Hi Eddie, ICT PM isn't on the 189 list, so state sponsorship was my only viable option. WA & SA both have ICT PMs on their lists, but you need a job offer and we all know how difficult that would be! And yes, I have 65 points at the moment, although I'm 39 in July so I don't have all that much time to try something else. I've amended my EOI from specifying Victoria to any states, but I can't see that working. I'm completely gutted and I'm not sure what plan B could be. Thanks for the kind words everyone. G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jodipodi Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 (edited) If you already have done all of your document gathering etc and form filling... And can afford to..... I would suggest getting in touch with a mara agent for possible strategies... It likely wouldn't cost anywhere near as much as them going through the whole process with you and it may simply be a one off cost for advice on a plan of action x ** edited to add.....check SA SS again.......:huh: Edited April 9, 2014 by jodipodi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GezMag Posted April 9, 2014 Author Share Posted April 9, 2014 I've just checked SA again....maybe there is some hope...??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jodipodi Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 I've just checked SA again....maybe there is some hope...??? I also looked and there doesn't seem to be 'special conditions ' attached for ICT project managers....and there is also medium availability.... Looking good to me.....:biggrin: good luck x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jodipodi Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 I would also be checking if it is better to choose one state rather than 'all states'......someone will know better than me what the better option is for this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpatel1972 Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 GezMeg, I applied for Victoria SS 190 for ICT BA. I got exactly the same reject message as you. As someone above said, they are being very selective. I then applied to SA SS directly. At the same time, I updated my EOI to make sure I selected SA for SS (have to do this otherwise they will not consider you) Within a week (normal process early March said 2 weeks processing time..not sure how much it is now), I got the SA SS and got an invitation to apply for the visa. I am currently waiting for CO. Note - SA doesn't require your CV however they do ask for you specify the reasons asto why you want to move to SA. I did some research and put 5-6 points together. Best of luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jodipodi Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 GezMeg, I applied for Victoria SS 190 for ICT BA. I got exactly the same reject message as you. As someone above said, they are being very selective. I then applied to SA SS directly. At the same time, I updated my EOI to make sure I selected SA for SS (have to do this otherwise they will not consider you) Within a week (normal process early March said 2 weeks processing time..not sure how much it is now), I got the SA SS and got an invitation to apply for the visa. I am currently waiting for CO. Note - SA doesn't require your CV however they do ask for you specify the reasons asto why you want to move to SA. I did some research and put 5-6 points together. Best of luck. Thought as much....maybe select only SA gez....x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Not impossible to get a role as an ICT PM in Perth from overseas - I got an IT Senior Management role from the UK. Ajilon, Fujitsu & IBM would be worth trying, and the big resource companies - Rio Tinto, Woodside, BHP Billiton. Actively use LinkedIn - upgrade your membership if you need to so you can in-mail people. I will private message you my name and you can connect to me which will give you access to a number of senior IT people in Perth. There are specific Australian groups you can join, again make connections with people, join in discussions, let people know you're out there It is no different than looking for a job in the UK but you'll need to do it on steroids There is no harm in looking at Jobserve Australia or Seek - my OH applied for a role off Seek and got it (actually got two offers whilst we were in the UK so turned down that one) Think like a salesman - they don't need to know you need a visa when you first apply - get a .com email address and and Australian mobile number (you can buy sims on-line) I'm not in Australia now so can't do much more to help you I'm afraid. A member on here @Sustain was looking for PM's a while ago, it might be worth getting in touch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GezMag Posted April 9, 2014 Author Share Posted April 9, 2014 I've applied for SA! Better luck this time I hope. Thanks so much for the advice everyone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jodipodi Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 I've applied for SA! Better luck this time I hope. Thanks so much for the advice everyone! Happy days, hope you get it. :wink:x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddieb7 Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 I've applied for SA! Better luck this time I hope. Thanks so much for the advice everyone! Best of Luck G!! :biggrin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrussell Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Absolutely gutted! 70 points as an ICT project manager; rejected! The email below doesn't look like I have any options at all. Good luck to all of you who successfully move to Australia. Thank you for your application for Victorian Government nomination under the 190 - Skilled Nominated visa scheme. Following a review of your application, we regret to inform you that you have not been selected for visa nomination by the Victorian Government. Your application for Victorian Government state nomination was reviewed individually and assessed with a focus on your ability to address a number of criteria, including: your ability to meet the minimum eligibility criteria, the demand for your particular skills and expertise, and your ability to find work in Victoria, the suitability and transferability of your qualifications, skills and experience – including any specialist capabilities – to the needs of Victoria’s labour market, your ability and commitment to establishing yourself, and any dependents, in Victoria the number of nomination applications received relative to the number of nomination places available for your occupation. Victoria receives a high number of very strong applications for state nomination and only the very highest calibre candidates with the strongest skills, experience and opportunity for finding work in Victoria’s labour market are selected for Victorian state nomination. The Victorian Government uses independent industry panels to provide advice on the suitability of applicants to Victoria’s labour market. These industry representatives also provide advice on the demand for individual applicants’ qualifications, skills and experience, and prospects for employment in Victoria. While your application demonstrated your ability to meet the minimum eligibility requirements for Victorian state nomination, other applicants were able to more adequately demonstrate their suitability for employment in Victoria. There are other visa pathways for highly skilled workers who want to live and work in Victoria and we encourage you to investigate other visa options on the Department of Immigration and Border Protection (DIBP) website:www.immi.gov.au. We wish you all the best for your future endeavours. It is not what you know, it is ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipb Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Hi friends, Even my SS applicationw as rejected with the above reason for a Software tester job role. Not able to figure out what they are expecting or what they mean by their market conditions.Since Tester profile is not in the CSL list I have no other option but to wait until July when they reopen ACT.(currently it is closed). Friends ,can anyone guide me here. Is there any good Aus agency who can guide us in this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jodipodi Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Hi friends, Even my SS applicationw as rejected with the above reason for a Software tester job role. Not able to figure out what they are expecting or what they mean by their market conditions.Since Tester profile is not in the CSL list I have no other option but to wait until July when they reopen ACT.(currently it is closed).Friends ,can anyone guide me here. Is there any good Aus agency who can guide us in this. Hi Philipb...if you are referring to a Migration Agent when you say 'agency'....then see the post above yours....Westly (Wrussel) is a registered migration agent and a very good one at that with a good reputation. Im sure he would be more than happy to assess your situation. There are also other agents on PIO with good reputations, just type 'migration agent recommendations' into the search bar. All the best :biggrin:x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrussell Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Hi Philipb...if you are referring to a Migration Agent when you say 'agency'....then see the post above yours....Westly (Wrussel) is a registered migration agent and a very good one at that with a good reputation. Im sure he would be more than happy to assess your situation.There are also other agents on PIO with good reputations, just type 'migration agent recommendations' into the search bar. All the best :biggrin:x All the registered Migration Agents who regularly post on this forum are ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tejil Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 HI All my husband is not getting experince certificate from his current employer..obviously we cant reveal at this point that it is for immigration,,he is falling under 189 subclass fr ICT business analyst role,,the role is very similar to what he is currently doing, he works for an FMCG giant pl suggrst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GezMag Posted May 9, 2014 Author Share Posted May 9, 2014 I received an invitation yesterday from SA!! Thanks for the advice folks!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kolaman Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 On 09/05/2014 at 12:45, GezMag said: I received an invitation yesterday from SA!! Thanks for the advice folks!!!! Hi GezMag/mpatel1972! Not sure if you see this (4 years later!), was searching for some tips online for ICT Project Managers/Business analysts aspiring to move to Australia. Would be great to connect with you to share your experience Regards, Karthik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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