Worlo24 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Hi, only my second post here so please be kind. I apologise in advance for the fact that many a question has been asked about CRT in Australia but I couldn't find an up to date link. Im interested in moving over to oz. I am a primary school teacher with 5 years experience and I am currently on the senior management team at my school in the UK. I am aware that permanent jobs are near on impossible to come by in Australia but I am very kenn about CRT. Does anyone on the forum currently do CRT? Would Sydney or Melbourne offer more opportunities? I would need to be working at least three days per week supply to make it pay. I am open to other cities also. Can anyone recommend agencies to use? Sorry for for all the questions but I am really wanting to come over but need to collect all the facts first. Thanks in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del70 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Hi! Are you the main applicant for the Visa? Primary School Teacher 241213 is on the CSOL, so you would need state sponsorship. Also, have you had your skills assessed by AITSL? Good luck with it all! :biggrin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worlo24 Posted January 20, 2014 Author Share Posted January 20, 2014 Thanks for the reply. Think we're going down the WHV route, which is why I was wondering about CRT as I know you can only have one employer for 6 months. Lots of other teachers are on the List other than primary - just my luck ha! How does the CSOL list work then? If the occupation is on that list do we stand a better chance of getting a different visa? Many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy1 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Do you have at least four years of tertiary education? That is the first requirement, as a three year Bachelor of Education is not accepted here. Also, if you decide to come on a WHV you will need to register with the Teaching Registration Board in the state in which you wish to teach. This can take some time and so it makes sense to collect all of the paperwork needed and apply before you get here. You will not be allowed to teach in either a government or private school anywhere in Australia until you have have approval from the relevant registration board. Schools tend to call relief teachers in that they know. When you get here make sure that you approach schools and ask to meet one of the Admin team such as the Principal or the Deputy Principal. Large schools have a lot of relief staff, so you will probably pick up more relief work in a metro area. You can also approach agencies that may help you find relief work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calNgary Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Im no visa expert but you may struggle finding reliable work as a teacher on a WHV. PR is the better (albiet longer route) followed by Sponsorship, then a WHV as a last resort, unless its just a years holiday your looking at and have the finances to support you when your not at work. Cal x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worlo24 Posted January 21, 2014 Author Share Posted January 21, 2014 Thanks for your replies guys. Sammy I did the 4 year BA in primary education degree so I'm covered on that one. Would a state such as NSW offer me a sponsored visa? Or am I going to have to go down the WHV do you think? This is my last resort obviously and I am aware that you can only work for one employer for 6 months at a time. Anyone any idea on the amount of work on offer in Sydney? I've no problem travelling around an hour to get to the suburbs to work. Thanks again you've all been a huge help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsr1976 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Hi i am a primary teacher with 15 yrs experience and have just got my 190 permanent visa with my husband and two girls as dependants. Its been a tricky process and i sat the IELTS in sept 2012 so its taken since then really, however I had to wait a long time for my transcripts from uni. Now we have a permanent visa we. Have to activate within a year then have a further 4 years to move! The visa we got was sponsored by WA as that is the only state sponsoring primary teachers at the moment and i had to wait to be invited. I hope that helps a bit! Ask any questions if you have any Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERYSTORMY Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 The key to remember is that a WHV is what it says on the tin. A holiday and nothing more. Primary teachers are struggling for work here - including local grads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy1 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 The key to remember is that a WHV is what it says on the tin. A holiday and nothing more. Primary teachers are struggling for work here - including local grads. We say it time and time again that jobs for teachers are very scarce here, unless they are maths, design and technology or science with another subject, secondary specialists. Queensland seems to be the choice of dream destination for many Brits, but they need to do the research as it is absolutely swamped with home grown, out of work teachers and fresh new graduates. WA (wait for the usual newspaper report in February about how many grads did not get jobs) has many teachers scrambling for jobs too. We can give advice on here, but really people just choose to ignore it and think they will walk into a permanent job as soon as they get here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy1 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Thanks for your replies guys. Sammy I did the 4 year BA in primary education degree so I'm covered on that one. Would a state such as NSW offer me a sponsored visa? Or am I going to have to go down the WHV do you think? This is my last resort obviously and I am aware that you can only work for one employer for 6 months at a time. Anyone any idea on the amount of work on offer in Sydney? I've no problem travelling around an hour to get to the suburbs to work. Thanks again you've all been a huge help I very much doubt that NSW would sponsor a primary teacher unless they have specialist qualifications. With a WHV you would get day to day relief teaching, but a contract for six months would be harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celt Down Under Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 My daughter is a Primary School teacher who got her teaching degree in Australia. 3 1/2 years ago she registered to get back into teaching doing CRT in Brisbane, and made it known at several schools in her locality that she was available. In 12 months she did not get one call. They were then posted to Victoria, and much the same there. They moved to Wagga in NSW 2 years ago, and she started going into the schools local to her to help with reading programs as a parent helper, all unpaid of course. Then after a short while she started getting call ins, and was working most weeks for the 3 days she had said that she was free on. At the end of last term, she was offered a full time position beginning this year. It is not easy as has been explained above, even for those who have obtained their degree in Australia. It seems that it is a case of who you know, and she got to that stageby doing the voluntary work first and getting to know the right people. Good luck with whatever you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del70 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Hi i am a primary teacher with 15 yrs experience and have just got my 190 permanent visa with my husband and two girls as dependants. Its been a tricky process and i sat the IELTS in sept 2012 so its taken since then really, however I had to wait a long time for my transcripts from uni. Now we have a permanent visa we. Have to activate within a year then have a further 4 years to move! The visa we got was sponsored by WA as that is the only state sponsoring primary teachers at the moment and i had to wait to be invited. I hope that helps a bit! Ask any questions if you have any I'm afraid that WA have recently put Primary School Teacher on Schedule 2, which means they want you to have "an offer of full-time employment for 12 months in nominated region in nominated or closely related occupation". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worlo24 Posted January 22, 2014 Author Share Posted January 22, 2014 Thanks again for the replies. Just trying to gather as many facts and information as I can before I decide. Thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolvesaussie Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Hi I met a couple of canadians here in melb who werr doing crt on working holiday. They said they were picking up work most days in inner Melbourne. They said they had been told best to live inner melb. Agent won't call u if u have to travel in from burbs. Not sure how true that is. Good luck with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worlo24 Posted January 28, 2014 Author Share Posted January 28, 2014 Thanks for that wolvesaussie. I have sent a few emails to agencies in Sydney, Melbourne and perth and have had a variety of responses. There does seem to be CRT work around in Sydney and Melbourne but you need to get your fav known around schools first. Still lots to find out but looking a little more positive I suppose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulRaynor Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Worlo if you come to QLD supply work is controlled by TRACER Teacher Relief and Contract 'something' Register. It is a resource unit controlled by the Dept of Education and is brilliant! No need for agencies at all, not that there are many here anyway. The supply rate at $400 an hour is one of the best rates in Australia and to join you have to produce your Queensland College of Teachers registration number. After that schools and particularly individual teachers may ask for you regularly. Thereafter a Principal is able to offer you anything up to full time contract for a year. They can't of course offer you a full time position. once you are in it's not that difficult. I'm on supply and never short of work, except maybe at the moment but its the start of the school year everyone is healthy but in a a week or so it'll pick up nicely. Good luck Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulRaynor Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Just to add I never had any problems with the department accepting my PGCE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulRaynor Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Sorry I am going mental! I meant $400 a DAY !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worlo24 Posted January 30, 2014 Author Share Posted January 30, 2014 Thanks for the info Paul - all sounds very promising. When are the busiest times for work? How many days a week on average are you getting? How's the lifestyle in QLD? Sorry for so many questions but is hard to find out information. Thanks again mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolvesaussie Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Dam it paul I just quit my job and signed up for teacher training on the promise of 400 an hour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulRaynor Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Dam it paul I just quit my job and signed up for teacher training on the promise of 400 an hour Didn't tell you I lived in Bermuda did I ? ha ha ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulRaynor Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Thanks for the info Paul - all sounds very promising. When are the busiest times for work? How many days a week on average are you getting? How's the lifestyle in QLD? Sorry for so many questions but is hard to find out information. Thanks again mate Best I PM you I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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