The IT field Thread

[Sonu008]

Can someone please help me with list of IT recruiters? Based in UK and dont have any job/offer in Australia. Landing 30th Mar and the search begins...

Any help with numbers/email will help.

[Swamps]

Same request from me. I've been in Melbourne for a week now and starting the job hunt. I've applied for some on Seeknbut are there any good Melbourne based IT agencies I can approach.

[Topender]

I'm not sure why people here seem to think that Melbourne, Sydney are the places to get IT work, these are the HARDEST Markets to find work in, yes there are more jobs adverstised, BUT there are also a LOT more applicants and a lot more local candidates that your are up against.

 

The regional area's are were most opportunities are, for example I've got a couple of job vacancies for IT Technicans and a Sales & Marketing Role that I would be interested in receiving applications from and I do sponsor several staff at the moment (you MUST have excellent English skills though). See:

 

I often have IT roles, so if you have great customer facing IT skills, Server & Networking Experience, then please apply to me at ***email removed per forum rules***

 

PS. Also don't forget that a lot of jobs don't get advertised, and also that MOST Jobs do NOT go through Agencies, so whilst yes, by all means list with an agency, you will get best results from approaching employers and also responding to jobs advertised directly.

Edited April 23, 2015 by Ozmaniac
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[n1ck]

I'm not sure why people here seem to think that Melbourne, Sydney are the places to get IT work, these are the HARDEST Markets to find work in, yes there are more jobs adverstised, BUT there are also a LOT more applicants and a lot more local candidates that your are up against.

 

 

People come to Sydney and Melbourne because they have usually specialised in a certain area of IT eg: finance/trading technology, and that's where all the jobs are. If you're an entry level IT person/level 1 support then yes, you'll get work anywhere.

[Topender]

Yes coneeded, for Finance and Stock Market Trading Technology, Sydney, a bit like London is the Financial Capital, your correct if thats your IT Specialisation thats where you need to be.

 

However thats only a small portion of the overall IT Industry and for entry level (that won't apply for skilled migrants anyway), mid level and higher levels, staff are needed all over Australia for that, they are too in Melb/Sydney/Perth/Bris, BUT these capital cities currently don't have a shortage of skilled IT staff and people unless they have something VERY special to offer, will find it harder to get work in those cities.

[Swamps]

I agree with Nick, the higher end/ large corporate jobs are usually based in the major cities so that's an obvious place to start looking. I agree that there are lots of other roles in the various other cities and rural places, but those don't suit everyone's skill set.

[DianaK]

Hi Topender,

Would you happen to know agencies that find placements/contracts for Oracle functional consultants?

Thanks.

[srig]

Yo all people,

Am a 5+ year business analyst in financial services with a cbap certification under my belt. Preparing for ITIL too. Have a PR 190 with an obligation to stay in NSW. What are the chances of getting a BA job within a month probably in Sydney?? Please share ur opinions..

[Topender]

I can introduce you to quite a few IT Recruiters , inc Some that specialise in SAP or related database areas.

 

I'm happy to introduce people to others in my large IT and ICT related Network is many contacts in the UK and Australia, including Recruiters , Recruitment Agencies , IT Employers and Industry employers and resources for people seeking IT related roles and jobs in the Northern Territory, Darwin and across Australia

Edited April 23, 2015 by Ozmaniac
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[andrewajp002]

Hi Michael

 

I think I have contacted you on LinkedIn previously, I now have my 189 Grant and looking to move out within the next few months or late this year at latest. If I emailed you my current CV can you advise if you know of any agencies in IT that could assist me in finding a position?

 

Many thanks

 

Andrew

[IronMan2]

The so-called skills shortages are a scam, false, and a rort. There is an over-supply of skills in IT and other sectors in Australia and there are not enough jobs. Why are professionals driving taxis and doing menial work? We migrants are actually disillusioned, especially those who come from Asian and African countries and the Indian subcontinent.

 

These migrants spend a lot of their money and all their life's savings to migrate. They sell their property and everything in their home country and come here. But when they arrive here in AUS they are left to fend for themselves.

Aus Govt. is luring migrants form these countries under the false pretext of "skill shortages". It's all about the housing and property market here, and Australia is inviting "fillers" to come and buy.

[Chortlepuss]

The market is saturated with high quality candidates at a time when cut backs are starting to bite. Some with niche skills can do well but you need contacts. The skills shortage list always lags behind - I doubt for instance that there is any shortage of business analysts in Australia. I'm afraid immigration is a

nice little money spinner for the Govt.

[andrewajp002]

Chortlepuss, this could be said about most major cities, however if you are good then you will find work.

 

There may be many BA's out there but are all that good? Most cities inc Sydney and Melbourne will have reasonable paid work if you are actually good and not that you just have a good Resume.

 

Im not 100% confident of finding great paid work when I arrive, but I am good at what I do and I am fully expecting to find something decent within the first few months, or at least a reasonable one to start and then progress up.

[MelbourneTractor]

Hi All,

 

I'm a SCADA Systems Engineer with six years experience, although I've spent the last seven months working as a BA.

 

I'd love a SCADA Related role, especially in the water industry.

 

I live in Altona and I'm happy to commute within the Melbourne area.

Any suggestions on where to look?

[Petkula73]

The so-called skills shortages are a scam, false, and a rort. There is an over-supply of skills in IT and other sectors in Australia and there are not enough jobs. Why are professionals driving taxis and doing menial work? We migrants are actually disillusioned, especially those who come from Asian and African countries and the Indian subcontinent.

 

Depends... The thing to remember about IT jobs is there's no real value or money to be earned doing the technical side of things. Anything that can get outsourced and off-shored generally does. This isn't unique to Australia.

 

Where the money and demand is greater is for people who can manage these outsourced relationships. So things like Project Management, Service Delivery and Business Analysis are better skills to have than, for example programming skills. It's a bit of a cliche, but programmers, developers and support people are ten a penny in places like India. However, getting them to do what the business requires is where the skill comes in - i.e. designing the functional spec rather than coding.

 

If you've experience as a PM or BA and can translate what the business wants in to something tangible you're definitely in demand, not just here in Australia, but in the UK, US etc.

 

I've 20 years experience in IT and my best advice is if you don't particularly like IT you'll get on much better in your career than someone who does - i.e. IT is a means to an end for most companies, not the reason they are there. Push yourself more towards the business side and away from licking the wires if you want better job opportunities.

[arrumac]

I worked at AEMO thats the Australian Energy Market Operator and may be a good place to start, nice offices at 530 Collins St. They manage the GAS and Electric networks, as they operate the SCADA networks the distributors own you could also try those guys. i went to APA's site in Dandenong once for an IT Security review of their SCADA infra, they have a sizeable site there, apa.com.au. I'd help more if I could bum I'm back in the UK now. Good luck.

[Swamps]

I've been in Melbourne for 6 weeks now and not having much luck so far job wise. Have a series of interviews for 1 company but they've gone quiet now so I assume they have someone else, other than that I've applied for about 20-25 jobs and not had a single response back. I know it's still early days but I expected a better start to my Job hunting.

 

[Frozen]

End of financial year is fast approaching (End of June) so the market is quiet now. It should pick up in July/Aug. What kind of role are you looking for?

[Swamps]

I've been looking at Solution Architect or Team Leader roles but might have to lower my expectations as I'm not really getting anywhere.

[davlap]

Unfortunately it is just the way recruitment over here operates. UK might be the same now, but never was before I came here.

No consideration for the applicants unless you are shortlisted. Sure there are lots of applicants for each job, but in this day and age there is no excuse for a lack of communication. If you don't hear straight away, unlikely you will.

 

While expected from agencies, companies are doing it as well. I was told I would get a second interview after applying for a major company, heard nothing. Contacted the company a number of times (phone and email) with no reply. A couple of weeks later got the standard email that I was not successful (didn't even get the second interview). Other times heard nothing after a first interview. Awful really. Each time you invest time and effort, as you are expected to be 'passionate' about joining the company.

 

In my experience what Frozen says is not the case. I have been applying since October and saw many comments that Jan / mid summer was a slow time and would pick up after the holidays. Others say end of financial year is slow as new year budgets have not been finalized.

 

Also, lowering your sights may have the adverse effect. You will then get the 'over qualified' response (if you get any). I have applied for jobs that pay well below what I could get. But agencies/companies decide you will jump ship as soon as something better comes along. I wouldn't but they of course know better than you. I see the same jobs readvertised that I applied for. The agent tells me the person left - frustrating or what! Even then, I only apply for things I want and have the skills to do.

 

Do I sound bitter - course I do. Really I am just frustrated with it all. They say you should network, using job boards means you have little chance. You have to write the correct CV and cover letter. In other words all style and no substance. If you don't have those skills, technical excellence will mean little.

 

I would dump IT if I could think of something else to do and chuckle at the numerous reports of skills shortages.

 

Anyway, must go, have to check the jobs again.

Edited May 11, 2015 by davlap

[Frozen]

I've been looking at Solution Architect or Team Leader roles but might have to lower my expectations as I'm not really getting anywhere.

It is my personal opinion that the IT market is crap at the moment - at least in Sydney where I work. I am sure someone will come along and say it is all great and loads of jobs but in my opinion that's not the case. I manage a team of 20+ developers for a bank and we are finalizing budgets for next year. For us it looks like we will get rid of people instead of hiring and that is the general feel I get from the market. Again, my personal view, I could be wrong.

 

What kind of skills do you have? I know in Sydney at least Java is doing OK whilst the market for C# and the likes is very saturated.

[Swamps]

davlap, sounds like you've had a crap experience. Have you. Red jobless since October?

 

Im no programmer, more of a solution designer specialising in Microsoft products, active directory specifically, and SAN/NAS. I've also some a lot of 3rd line support so have been looking at support team leader roles. I was hoping that my 20years IT experience would have been a good selling point.

 

I guess 6 weeks in is still early days and maybe too early to start worrying.

[Frozen]

Keep on trying. Whilst I am not in infrastructure myself we do obviously have it. Maybe it's worth to look at some minor roles just to get the "local experience" that is key here but also keep in mind that as davlap said, you might get the "you're too overqualified" for this...

 

Full disclosure: Me and my husband are leaving Australia and going to London next month. Both of us work in IT and whilst we have been lucky enough to have had OK jobs here we just don't see the same opportunities here as elsewhere. We've both found jobs in London already.

 

Anyway - 6 weeks isn't that long. As long as you have funds to support you. You only need that one job and it'll all fall into place! Fingers crossed!

[davlap]

davlap, sounds like you've had a crap experience. Have you. Red jobless since October?

 

Im no programmer, more of a solution designer specialising in Microsoft products, active directory specifically, and SAN/NAS. I've also some a lot of 3rd line support so have been looking at support team leader roles. I was hoping that my 20years IT experience would have been a good selling point.

 

I guess 6 weeks in is still early days and maybe too early to start worrying.

 

Red jobless ?? Not sure what you meant to say here.

 

We come over 7 years ago just when GFC hit. Didn't get a job in IT for 18 months!! Worked casual in Coles for 9 months.

 

I had 15 years freelancing as analyst/programmer in UK without a break. Major companies like HP, Motorola, Capita.

Got a job in vendor helpdesk support. Left after 2 1/2 years for a great contract job in Sydney on a good rate. Wife wouldn't move (I wanted to), so after a year living away from Melbourne I quit. That was Feb 14. About the worse decision of my career.

 

Thought it would be easy, but couldn't get a job until July14. That lasted 3 months, was really messed about by a major company. In fact after a week I was told there was no money and not to come in the next Monday, but survived that. Short contract to transition support offshore, which was a success (too much so!) and the promised 'we will find something else after 3 months' at the interview didn't happen.

 

So yes, not a great track record. But my wife works and I am of more mature age, so not so bothered as some might be. I would advise you to keep obvious signs of your age off the resume, only show last 10-15 years, don't show dates of education etc.

 

I want to work, but can't. Back at Coles doing casual again! Last time I got about 20 hours a week, lucky to get 4 this time around.

 

You appear to have useful skills, so not sure what is going on there. When I get an interview I have a very good success rate, so don't give up, it only takes one.

 

To be honest, I wish I was in Frozen's shoes and going back (don't tell the wife!!)

[Saviola]

Must admit I am for the first time in my career finding work hard to find, 12 years of sys admin and professional services work. I had a contract that I came over to, the OH had a permanent position to start so it was all I needed. That ended up being a nightmare and eventually it ended early, a poorly managed project where the contractors got by the shafted by the PMs basically.

 

I have been looking properly for about 2 months and have had a 6-7 interviews (not applying for everything just yet )and i keep getting the 'need more Australian experience' line. I have previously never not been offered a job after an interview. There did seem to be a lot more jobs back in the UK, currently in Melbourne, but I haven't looked for work in a few years so my memory may be off.

 

Agents seem nice while dealing with that role/job but if you don't get it then its the cold shoulder not even any real feedback, I had to email the HR manager of one company to get any once (they didn't mind and actually felt bad for me).

 

Just need to keep plugging away I guess.