2231-79 Computing Professional (ICT Recent Graduate) and the new priority

[Guest tyasawa]

Sadly I don't think a change of government would do much good ,the coalition policy on skilled migration is to reintroduce the CSL which could mean yet more confusion and another change in processing priorities for visa applicants.

 

I will wait until after the election to see if there's any other changes before I waste my money to apply for another visa. I hope the election goes by faster tho, so I can stop reading news about negative impact of immigration. I seriously have to stop reading reader's comments on news. Although some of the are not hostile and xenophobic, most of them makes me want to leave Australia. Sometimes I am thinking "Do people I know secretly think like them?".

 

I think we can only wait and see and try not to be too stressed out about it, take a holiday etc. I don't think there will be any changes soon.

[Guest ddd2010]

Sadly I don't think a change of government would do much good ,the coalition policy on skilled migration is to reintroduce the CSL which could mean yet more confusion and another change in processing priorities for visa applicants.

 

Is that true? Where do I get information on this?

[Guest zzzsianzzz]

i dont think there will be another CSL if the coalition doesnt win. Its turning towards Labor at the moment.. raises and falls like a stock in the stock exchange market =-="

[Guest Nick9]

I think that was aimed at local ICT students .......the ICT international students are and never will be of intrest to them!

 

I think ACS is more interested in international students than the local students. Because they mainly earn money by assessing the overseas IT professionals and International IT student's skills for the migration purpose. And anyway hardly any local students joins or become the member of ACS.

[Guest amitls]

Hi All,

I applied PR as 885 Recent ICT graduate after completing my masters and having skills accessed by ACS on Aug 2009. A bit of back ground

1) My undergrad degree is in Electronics and Comm engineer

2) My Post grad degree is in Computer Networks

3) I worked as an IT Support Officer from Sept 2007- Sept 2009

4) I got fed up with IT midway whilst studying Computer Networks and incorporated Project Mgmt /business subjects as much as I could in my degree

5) Currently I’m an ICT consultant working as a project scheduler/project co coordinator (Job profile is in SOL) from Sept 2009 to present with base salary less than 65K that is required for ENS

My dilemma:

1) I’m in priority 4 (I’m pissed off) and want to expedite the pr process

2) I’m gonna get married soon and she can’t do anything to join me except tourist visa and is it worth of her time coming here after this sh** rule changes.

My options:

1) F** PR my life is more important, if I am getting a msg of being unwelcomed in Australia after utilizing my skills and paying thousands on taxes I might as well give a damn and go back and live happily with my love

2) Try to get on top of priority

Can I:

1) Access my skills from Engineers Australia/ Vetassess that accesses skills for Project coordinator/Engineer so that it’s not highlighted as IT but as an engineering work that I do

2) This will bring my base salary req to be 47K and apply for ENS?

3) If not can I switch to 457 Working Visa from Bridging visa A?

4) If i can switch to 457 bringing visa A, when I am granted 457, I might as well reassess my masters degree with specialisation from ACS again which would allow me to apply 885 with priority 3?

5) Any other options I have?

Kindly reply, I’m willing to discuss with a lawyer/migration agent should the need be. Thank you

[Guest zzzsianzzz]

I think ACS is more interested in international students than the local students. Because they mainly earn money by assessing the overseas IT professionals and International IT student's skills for the migration purpose. And anyway hardly any local students joins or become the member of ACS.

 

theyre aimed at locals but mostly funded by internationals... lol

[Guest polkadot]

Hi All,

I applied PR as 885 Recent ICT graduate after completing my masters and having skills accessed by ACS on Aug 2009. A bit of back ground

1) My undergrad degree is in Electronics and Comm engineer

2) My Post grad degree is in Computer Networks

3) I worked as an IT Support Officer from Sept 2007- Sept 2009

4) I got fed up with IT midway whilst studying Computer Networks and incorporated Project Mgmt /business subjects as much as I could in my degree

5) Currently I’m an ICT consultant working as a project scheduler/project co coordinator (Job profile is in SOL) from Sept 2009 to present with base salary less than 65K that is required for ENS

My dilemma:

1) I’m in priority 4 (I’m pissed off) and want to expedite the pr process

2) I’m gonna get married soon and she can’t do anything to join me except tourist visa and is it worth of her time coming here after this sh** rule changes.

My options:

1) F** PR my life is more important, if I am getting a msg of being unwelcomed in Australia after utilizing my skills and paying thousands on taxes I might as well give a damn and go back and live happily with my love

2) Try to get on top of priority

Can I:

1) Access my skills from Engineers Australia/ Vetassess that accesses skills for Project coordinator/Engineer so that it’s not highlighted as IT but as an engineering work that I do

2) This will bring my base salary req to be 47K and apply for ENS?

3) If not can I switch to 457 Working Visa from Bridging visa A?

4) If i can switch to 457 bringing visa A, when I am granted 457, I might as well reassess my masters degree with specialisation from ACS again which would allow me to apply 885 with priority 3?

5) Any other options I have?

Kindly reply, I’m willing to discuss with a lawyer/migration agent should the need be. Thank you

 

Sounds like you need a migration agent to help you out with. I would recommend you to Peter Chiam from Ptlabs consulting (www.ptlabs.com.au)

[Guest proud2beaussie]

Is that true? Where do I get information on this?

Key features of the Coalition policy will include:

• reinstatement of a genuine critical skills list designed to reflect genuine occupational

skills needs of industry,

 

The above is a quote from a policy document released in April ,and despite the coalition releasing it's full policy on immigration which includes a substantial cut to immigration

they have released nothing which contradicts this statement about reinstating a CSL.

http://www.liberal.org.au/~/media/Files/Policies%20and%20Media/National%20Security/LPA%20Population%20and%20Immigration%20A4%20Web%20Version.ashx

[Guest chajath]

Key features of the Coalition policy will include:

• reinstatement of a genuine critical skills list designed to reflect genuine occupational

skills needs of industry,

 

The above is a quote from a policy document released in April ,and despite the coalition releasing it's full policy on immigration which includes a substantial cut to immigration

they have released nothing which contradicts this statement about reinstating a CSL.

http://www.liberal.org.au/~/media/Files/Policies%20and%20Media/National%20Security/LPA%20Population%20and%20Immigration%20A4%20Web%20Version.ashx

 

Well, I think they can reinstate CSL for additional pointing system. (so as to give businesses more access to skilled migrants for the industries in such lists) Whether they want to prioritise the applications on CSL (and hence continue this mess) will be another question, IMO.

[Guest ddd2010]

Well, I think they can reinstate CSL for additional pointing system. (so as to give businesses more access to skilled migrants for the industries in such lists) Whether they want to prioritise the applications on CSL (and hence continue this mess) will be another question, IMO.

 

Yes, I agree. I think the coalition was talking about the MODL that has been revoked since February because in April, CSL was still in place. So, I don't know, it kinda make more sense that they were talking about the MODL because from my understanding it was created by the coalition Government in the late 90s.

[Guest TheStig]

I have got some news that is going to add FIRE to the already flaming situation... There are 2 recent ICT graduates that have got their skills successfully asses as ICT Business Analyst (Cat 3) by ACS today. They did their degrees in BIT (Information Systems).

 

SO WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE US?!.. THose who have a similar course but graduated 1.5 yrs before!!

[Guest Manj]

I have got some news that is going to add FIRE to the already flaming situation... There are 2 recent ICT graduates that have got their skills successfully asses as ICT Business Analyst (Cat 3) by ACS today. They did their degrees in BIT (Information Systems).

 

SO WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE US?!.. THose who have a similar course but graduated 1.5 yrs before!!

 

Looks like we have been very very unlucky and disadvantaged!!

 

I feel so depressed seeing these things happen!!:arghh:

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CAT (4), 885 applied 2008 AUG, ICT - Recent graduate NEC, IELTS 8.0, NAATI qualified, Currently employed as a ICT Project Officer

[Guest proud2beaussie]

Yes, I agree. I think the coalition was talking about the MODL that has been revoked since February because in April, CSL was still in place. So, I don't know, it kinda make more sense that they were talking about the MODL because from my understanding it was created by the coalition Government in the late 90s.

No the policy speciifcally says

reinstatement of a genuine critical skills list

,and if they do that (assuming they were elected of course which may well not happen anyway) doesn't that mean the possibility of even more confusion and yet another round of processing priority changes for skilled migrants to cope with,there are people that have been on the DIAC rollercoaster for ages and if the coalition were elected and did reintroduce a CSL then that surely means that they will stay on it -possibly for even longer than they may under the current system.

The current system is in need of fixing that is for certain and I for one am not saying that it doesn't but would reintroducing the CSL actually make things better? maybe it would-I don't have enough knowledge to speculate about that but I do think that introduicing yet more changes would be a bad idea-but I am certainly open minded about that and willing to be persuaded otherwise.

[Guest ddd2010]

No the policy speciifcally says ,and if they do that (assuming they were elected of course which may well not happen anyway) doesn't that mean the possibility of even more confusion and yet another round of processing priority changes for skilled migrants to cope with,there are people that have been on the DIAC rollercoaster for ages and if the coalition were elected and did reintroduce a CSL then that surely means that they will stay on it -possibly for even longer than they may under the current system.

The current system is in need of fixing that is for certain and I for one am not saying that it doesn't but would reintroducing the CSL actually make things better? maybe it would-I don't have enough knowledge to speculate about that but I do think that introduicing yet more changes would be a bad idea-but I am certainly open minded about that and willing to be persuaded otherwise.

 

I really don't know if it's going to get better or worse. All I wanted to point out is my speculation of the policy of "reinstatement of a genuine critical skills list" that it may not mean the CSL "as we know it" because it doesn't make a lot of sense to readers of the document at the time of publication (April 2010) since the CSL was still in place at the time. Also, usually when they say something like "reinstatement", they usually talk about things that the current government changed that was in placed before the current government comes to power. Saying reinstatement of the CSL (as we know it) would imply that the current government (in April 2010) "is doing a good job", which is something that I don't think the coalition intended to say. I could be wrong though.

[Guest ddd2010]

I have got some news that is going to add FIRE to the already flaming situation... There are 2 recent ICT graduates that have got their skills successfully asses as ICT Business Analyst (Cat 3) by ACS today. They did their degrees in BIT (Information Systems).

 

SO WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE US?!.. THose who have a similar course but graduated 1.5 yrs before!!

 

Now that it is evidenced, it has been proven that we've been dicussing a genuine issue in the last 24 pages of this thread. :smile:

[Guest]

Well That means we cannot be capped!!! Thats per sure if new Graduates will be given a SOL 3 Occupations.I think we should contact a lawer and lodge a formal complaint against DIMMIA or these new graduates will be filling already skimmed places and we will be always in a queue...

[Guest proud2beaussie]

I really don't know if it's going to get better or worse. All I wanted to point out is my speculation of the policy of "reinstatement of a genuine critical skills list" that it may not mean the CSL "as we know it" because it doesn't make a lot of sense to readers of the document at the time of publication (April 2010) since the CSL was still in place at the time. Also, usually when they say something like "reinstatement", they usually talk about things that the current government changed that was in placed before the current government comes to power. Saying reinstatement of the CSL (as we know it) would imply that the current government (in April 2010) "is doing a good job", which is something that I don't think the coalition intended to say. I could be wrong though.

Yes but they were well aware that the CSL was being revoked from mid 2010,so they were in effect saying that the plans to revoke the CSL were misguided and that they would reverse then if and when they came to power,now whether they reinstate the CSL 'as we know it' or not then my point is that doing that creates even more uncertainty for applicants than if the current system was left in place and the issues surrounding newer applicants seemingly being treated more favourably than existing applicants were to be addressed in some other manner.

What I am effectively saying is that addressing the iniquities in the current system should be able to be done in another way rather than returning to an old system which creates yet more confusion for people who are already being pulled from pillar to post.

[Guest Masochist]

Hey guys !

 

Could you please explain me what is a State Migration Plan ?

 

Does it mean that if I apply under NSW State Migration Plan, I need to live and work in NSW Regional areas ?

 

Can I live and work in Sydney if I am granted PR under SMP ?

 

Thanks in advance.

[Guest TheStig]

Hey guys !

 

Could you please explain me what is a State Migration Plan ?

 

Does it mean that if I apply under NSW State Migration Plan, I need to live and work in NSW Regional areas ?

 

Can I live and work in Sydney if I am granted PR under SMP ?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Wrong thread.. With due respect to the threadstarter you just dont 'hijack' someone else thread with you own issue.

 

Probably better off creating your own thread and probably get more responses there.

[Guest zzzsianzzz]

LoL... hijacker~

[Guest Manj]

I have been contacting ACS via email (5 times) and phone messages (left 7 voice mail msg's) requesting for explanation on the transitional approach they will if at all propose for pre July 2010 ICT - recent grad's.....but I have not recieved a single reply

 

 

I'am absolutely disgusted with ACS's inability to atleast send/return a call/email to me to say that they have atleast recieved my messages!

 

Looks like we have been deserted ....for people who have 2+ work exp. I say we may need to resubmit a fresh application ...the other's .... I tried to see if I could get some favourable way, but seems no LUCk!!

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CAT (4), 885 applied 2008 AUG, ICT - Recent graduate NEC, IELTS 8.0, NAATI qualified, Currently employed as a ICT Project Officer

[Guest chajath]

I have been contacting ACS via email (5 times) and phone messages (left 7 voice mail msg's) requesting for explanation on the transitional approach they will if at all propose for pre July 2010 ICT - recent grad's.....but I have not recieved a single reply

 

 

I'am absolutely disgusted with ACS's inability to atleast send/return a call/email to me to say that they have atleast recieved my messages!

 

Looks like we have been deserted ....for people who have 2+ work exp. I say we may need to resubmit a fresh application ...the other's .... I tried to see if I could get some favourable way, but seems no LUCk!!

 

 

Yeah I was trying the same thing but these guys at ACS are just hopeless. What makes this matter complicated is that it involves three independent bodies who don't seem to have good communication channel established among them.

[Guest Manj]

Yeah I was trying the same thing but these guys at ACS are just hopeless. What makes this matter complicated is that it involves three independent bodies who don't seem to have good communication channel established among them.

 

 

I think this needs to be resolved by ACS and DIAC communicating to each other!! We were given a generic code by ACS..... now DIAC all of a sudden gets rid of it and where do we stand???

 

THEY JUST CANNOT DESERT PEOPLE LIKE THIS.

 

ACS and DIAC should sort this mess out..... none of them are decent enough to atleast return peoples calls/emails...........sick of these AUSTRALIAN Service attitude!!:arghh:

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CAT (4), 885 applied 2008 AUG, ICT - Recent graduate NEC, IELTS 8.0, NAATI qualified, Currently employed as a ICT Project Officer

[Guest chajath]

I think this needs to be resolved by ACS and DIAC communicating to each other!! We were given a generic code by ACS..... now DIAC all of a sudden gets rid of it and where do we stand???

 

THEY JUST CANNOT DESERT PEOPLE LIKE THIS.

 

ACS and DIAC should sort this mess out..... none of them are decent enough to atleast return peoples calls/emails...........sick of these AUSTRALIAN Service attitude!!:arghh:

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CAT (4), 885 applied 2008 AUG, ICT - Recent graduate NEC, IELTS 8.0, NAATI qualified, Currently employed as a ICT Project Officer

 

Partly because those people we were trying to reach out are not in the right position to answer our inquiry, I suppose. You want to try someone at the higher level

Migration and Visa Policy Division could be one, I guess.

[Guest]

Thats Correct Chajath.What will they tell to us? They know what questions we are going to ask and they know they do not have the answer for them right now.But at least they should put some information at the ACS website about us so that we know they are aware of the situation...