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6 hours ago, sydneyishuk said:

Hi Jennyc - unsure if you got a response.

Yes - you will need to provide a letter from employer confirming the inclusion of your dependent applicants.

Thanks so much for your help. Sydneyishuk.


Occupation: Engineering Professional
State: VIC
Birth Country: HR
Stream: ENS DN

Number of applicants: 4
ENS 186 
Nomination applied: Mar 2018 / 186 visa Application applied: July 2018

Normination  approved: 7th, March,2019
IMMI Status: Received

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13 minutes ago, Andytomas said:

Hi guys, a quick question.....

what does mean “grandfathered”? 

Many people are talking about having applied under “grandfathered”.

can someone explain to me please?

thanks

 The ‘Grandfathering’ permits certain 457 visa holders who were granted their 457 visa on or before 18 April 2017 to apply under the current requirements for a ENS 186 TRT.

If you held, or had applied for, a Subclass 457 visa on 18 April 2017, you will be able to take advantage of existing TRT stream provisions: 

  • Occupation requirements will remain the same (ie there are no restrictions as long as you continue to work in the same position for the same employer as approved for your visa);
  • The age requirement will remain at less than 50 years of age; and
  • The work experience requirement (ie. the requirement to have worked in your occupation at least two out of the three years prior to nomination on a Subclass 457) will remain at two years.

Source: http://www.abacusvisa.com.au/news-flash/grandfathering-provisions-announced-for-certain-457-visa-holders

So basically, if you were granted a 457 VISA after 18th April 2017, you would not be eligible to apply for the 186 TRT under the new conditions, however if you held before, the Grandfathering provisions allow for this. 

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Occupation: ICT Support Engineer (Grandfathering Arrangement)
State: NSW
Birth Country: LR
Stream: TRT
Number of applicants: 1
186 Visa and Nomination applied:  June 2018

Nomination: Approved 19/03/2019
IMMI Status: Finalised 26/03/2019

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 Hi All

 

I have done my medical today My BMI was 25.4 ( overweight) . Due to ths , Immigration can ask for any further or additional test ? Any experience...?


Profession : Mechanical Engineer 

Current Status : On Visa 457

Visa applied: 186 DE

Nomination Applied : 20th Dec 2018 , Visa Applied: 2nd Jan 2019

Country : HR

Employer : Accredited 

 

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Hi, I was wondering if the same PESE office that processes the employer nomination also process the visa nomination?

Let's say if VIC PESE processed my employer nomination will they also process the visa nomination? or can it be picked up by another PESE office?

 

Cheers


Occupation: Software engineer (261313)
Birth country: Israel (HR)
Stream: 186 TRT
# of applicants: 4
State: WA
ENS 186 nomination: 18/09/2018 (approved on 20/02/2019)
Visa applied: 18/09/2018
Current status: Received

 

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In My case it was 2 different PESE Offices.


Occupation: ICT System Analyst
State: NSW
Birth Country: HR
Stream: ENS TRT
Number of applicants: 2
ENS 186 Nomination applied: December 2018 / 186 visa Application applied: December 2018
Nomination  approved: 31st, January, 2019
Initial Assessment: 8, February, 2019 (Requested PCC) 
Submitted PCC on 25th February 2019 and Status moved to Further Assessment
Finalized on : 11th, March, 2019
IMMI Status: Finalized

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Hi anybody have any idea regarding training benchmarks my restaurant standard business sponsorship approvewas approve in March 2016. According to rules my employer have to meet training benchmarks in every year till 12august,2018 Right what if we lodge application after 12august ,2018 still employer have to meet training benchmarks till 12august 2018. Or not if we lodge application after 12august,2018. Because my employer didn’t meet traing benchmarks of 2years but they paid lum sum amount of 2% to TAFE end of July because they don’t know rules gonna chnage by the time rules has been change and they again paid SAF levy too and lodge nomination in sep . I talk to Different MA they all said employer who lodge nomination after 12august,2018 they don’t have to shows and meet the training benchmarks every years immigration only see the SAF levy . Is here anybody who nominated is grant who lodge nomination after 12august and who employer don’t meet traing benchmarks of past year but paid the SAF levy ? 

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6 hours ago, Ramirez said:

Hi, I was wondering if the same PESE office that processes the employer nomination also process the visa nomination?

Let's say if VIC PESE processed my employer nomination will they also process the visa nomination? or can it be picked up by another PESE office?

 

Cheers

@Ramirez Unfortunately not, these are 2 separate offices and multiple officers. 


Occupation: Developer Programmer
State: NSW
Birth Country: SA (South Africa)
Stream: 457 - 186 TRT
Number of applicants: 4
ENS 186 Visa and Nomination applied:  January 9th 2018
-- Nomination approved on the 8th October 2018
Visa Granted on the 12 November 2018

IMMI Status: Finalized

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9 hours ago, Mukki said:

 Hi All

 

I have done my medical today My BMI was 25.4 ( overweight) . Due to ths , Immigration can ask for any further or additional test ? Any experience...?

@Mukki Although I haven't experienced this, I doubt the dept would come back with any additional requested tests. 

They worry more about serious issues (TB / disabilities etc.) I don't think being overweight with a high BMI would concern them too much. 


Occupation: Developer Programmer
State: NSW
Birth Country: SA (South Africa)
Stream: 457 - 186 TRT
Number of applicants: 4
ENS 186 Visa and Nomination applied:  January 9th 2018
-- Nomination approved on the 8th October 2018
Visa Granted on the 12 November 2018

IMMI Status: Finalized

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23 hours ago, sydneyishuk said:

Hi,

If you apply for the 186 visa before your 457 expires you will be then be placed on BVA when your 457 expires. So if you are travelling prior to 457 expiring that is fine as you are still holding 457 visa.  Once it expires in June - any travel out of Australia until 186 is granted you will then need to apply for BVB to travel.

If however you apply for the 186 after your 457 visa expires you will be on a BVC and will have no travel condition.

Thank you! (& SAJ.N)


Occupation: University lecturer
State: VIC
Birth Country: HR
Stream: DE (currently onshore on 457)
Number of applicants: 2
Nomination applied:  20/02/19
Nomination approved: 25/02/19
Visa applied:09/04/19
Visa granted:18/04/19
IMMI Status: granted

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14 hours ago, Whites.uk said:

 The ‘Grandfathering’ permits certain 457 visa holders who were granted their 457 visa on or before 18 April 2017 to apply under the current requirements for a ENS 186 TRT.

If you held, or had applied for, a Subclass 457 visa on 18 April 2017, you will be able to take advantage of existing TRT stream provisions: 

  • Occupation requirements will remain the same (ie there are no restrictions as long as you continue to work in the same position for the same employer as approved for your visa);
  • The age requirement will remain at less than 50 years of age; and
  • The work experience requirement (ie. the requirement to have worked in your occupation at least two out of the three years prior to nomination on a Subclass 457) will remain at two years.

Source: http://www.abacusvisa.com.au/news-flash/grandfathering-provisions-announced-for-certain-457-visa-holders

So basically, if you were granted a 457 VISA after 18th April 2017, you would not be eligible to apply for the 186 TRT under the new conditions, however if you held before, the Grandfathering provisions allow for this. 

I have applied under the grandfathering provisions.

Does grandfathering takes more time?

I applied in November 2018 under the new SAF levy scheme and saw some grants in this group for November, Dec-2018.

Wondering if mine is on the way or will take sometime due to grandfathering.


Occupation: Analyst Programmer
State: VIC
Birth Country: India
Stream: 457 - 186 TRT
Number of applicants: 6
ENS 186 Visa and Nomination applied:  November 23rd 2018

Nomination approved on the 1st April 2019

Visa Approved on : 5th April 2019
IMMI Status: Finalised

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6 minutes ago, kstttt said:

I have applied under the grandfathering provisions.

Does grandfathering takes more time?

I applied in November 2018 under the new SAF levy scheme and saw some grants in this group for November, Dec-2018.

Wondering if mine is on the way or will take sometime due to grandfathering.

@kstttt Nope, Grandfathering should make no difference to the time the application takes. 

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Occupation: Developer Programmer
State: NSW
Birth Country: SA (South Africa)
Stream: 457 - 186 TRT
Number of applicants: 4
ENS 186 Visa and Nomination applied:  January 9th 2018
-- Nomination approved on the 8th October 2018
Visa Granted on the 12 November 2018

IMMI Status: Finalized

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Hi, My company just received an email from DHA and requested more information.

* Evidence that the duties to be performed in the position of Field Scoper (Electrical) correspond to the tasks of the nominated occupation of Electrical Engineer.

My question is, that is it normal that DHA ask for further evidence?

If anyone can help me with this that what good evidence to give to satisfy DHA or what kind of transcript to write. That will be really helpful.

or if anyone had any suggestions, please let me know.

 

Thanks

 

Nomination Lodged: 4/10/18

Visa Lodged: 22/10/18

 Electrical Engineer 

DE 186

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10 minutes ago, Hex said:

@kstttt Nope, Grandfathering should make no difference to the time the application takes. 

I would argue that the majority of Grandfathering roles now exist on the STSOL list, and not the MLTSSL - and we have reports that occupations on this list will be processed faster, as well as seeing people on this forum having their VISA's processed faster, not in all cases albeit. 

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Occupation: ICT Support Engineer (Grandfathering Arrangement)
State: NSW
Birth Country: LR
Stream: TRT
Number of applicants: 1
186 Visa and Nomination applied:  June 2018

Nomination: Approved 19/03/2019
IMMI Status: Finalised 26/03/2019

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16 minutes ago, Whites.uk said:

I would argue that the majority of Grandfathering roles now exist on the STSOL list, and not the MLTSSL - and we have reports that occupations on this list will be processed faster, as well as seeing people on this forum having their VISA's processed faster, not in all cases albeit. 

Just found MLTSSL revised  on 11/03/2019 at https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2019L00275

My occupation is still there.

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analyst programmer

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Occupation: Analyst Programmer
State: VIC
Birth Country: India
Stream: 457 - 186 TRT
Number of applicants: 6
ENS 186 Visa and Nomination applied:  November 23rd 2018

Nomination approved on the 1st April 2019

Visa Approved on : 5th April 2019
IMMI Status: Finalised

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Hi Everyone,

I know we discussed about this yesterday but the headline and the content is bit confusing for the migration.

https://www.9news.com.au/2019/03/20/20/42/news-federal-politics-prime-minister-hit-pause-on-australia-annual-migration-intake

will the applications be on hold/ not reviewed or its just that the Cap is 160000.


Occupation: Lifescientist nec

State: Melbourne
HR
Stream: ENS 186 TRT
Number of applicants: 3
Visa and Nomination applied:  03Jul2018
IMMI Status: Finalised 08Apr2019

For Newbies: 
1. Update your Profile: -> https://www.pomsinoz.com/settings/signature/ or click on your account in the top right -> Account Settings -> Signature
2. The Spreadsheet is here: ENS 186 Timeline - Google Sheets

 

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Migration quato for 186 visa will be increase or decrease in 2019-2020 any body know that? Please share the info  I just see that and worried about quota because i think previous years have more quota for 186 visa I think 45000 now what I see in immigration web site it’s shows 30000 

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19 minutes ago, Rhitesh said:

Migration quato for 186 visa will be increase or decrease in 2019-2020 any body know that? Please share the info  I just see that and worried about quota because i think previous years have more quota for 186 visa I think 45000 now what I see in immigration web site it’s shows 30000 

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Yes,

Unfortunately migration quota reduced again.


Occupation: Restaurant Manager (ANZSCO 141111) (Occupation is in STSOL)

Restaurant: Indian Restaurant

Country: Pakistan

Single Person

First Nomination through DE: 29th June 2017

First Nomination Refusal: 15th May 2018 (Reason: Restaurant don't need manager as their income is not enough to pay the manager's salary.)

Second Nomination through TRT: 12th June 2018 and Visa on 13th June 2018

Second Nomination Approval 6th February 2019

Status: Further Assessment as on 6th February 2019

(No documents requested yet.)

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3 minutes ago, Kashif.Iqbal said:

Yes,

Unfortunately migration quota reduced again.

does the website have 2018-2019 details as well, can you share the link.


Occupation: Lifescientist nec

State: Melbourne
HR
Stream: ENS 186 TRT
Number of applicants: 3
Visa and Nomination applied:  03Jul2018
IMMI Status: Finalised 08Apr2019

For Newbies: 
1. Update your Profile: -> https://www.pomsinoz.com/settings/signature/ or click on your account in the top right -> Account Settings -> Signature
2. The Spreadsheet is here: ENS 186 Timeline - Google Sheets

 

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38 minutes ago, Rhitesh said:

Migration quato for 186 visa will be increase or decrease in 2019-2020 any body know that? Please share the info  I just see that and worried about quota because i think previous years have more quota for 186 visa I think 45000 now what I see in immigration web site it’s shows 30000 

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The quota for employer sponsered (186+187) has been 48250 for years however it is a celling not a target. In year 2017-18 only 35528 were issued.

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Occupation: software engineer

Country: HR

Stream: 186 TRT  ----  1 applicant only

My location: VIC,   Processing team: NSW.PSE

Nomination/VISA Applied date: 27th, Sep, 2018

Nomination approved date:  1st March, 2019.

Document Requested:  12th March, 2019  healthcheck,  IELTS result        --- privided on 13th March, 2019

VISA Granted: 10th April, 2019    Status Changed from Receive to Finalized directly.

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The quota for employer sponsered (186+187) has been 48250 for years however it is a celling not a target. In year 2017-18 only 35528 were issued.

If I’m right, it seems that the quota for employer sponsored (186+187) is 39000(30000+9000) for 2019-2020. Isn’t it a huge reduction from 48250?
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Occupation: Software Engineer
State: NSW
Birth Country: HR / LR
Stream: 186 DE (Onshore)
Number of applicants: 2
ENS 186 Visa and Nomination applied: 3 Sep 2018

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Just now, Fung said:


If I’m right, it seems that the quota for employer sponsored (186+187) is 39000(30000+9000) for 2019-2020. Isn’t it a huge reduction from 48250?

Does this affect people who already applied but haven't received the PR yet?

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Occupation: Welding Technician
State: NSW
 Country: LR+HR
Stream: 457 - 186 TRT
Number of applicants: 2
ENS 186 Visa and Nomination  and application applied:  30 MAY 2018
IMMI Status: Received

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4 minutes ago, Fung said:


If I’m right, it seems that the quota for employer sponsored (186+187) is 39000(30000+9000) for 2019-2020. Isn’t it a huge reduction from 48250?

The skilled employer sponser is not 186 and 187. It will be a new type of VISA.

employer sponsored -- 30000 is 186+187

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Occupation: software engineer

Country: HR

Stream: 186 TRT  ----  1 applicant only

My location: VIC,   Processing team: NSW.PSE

Nomination/VISA Applied date: 27th, Sep, 2018

Nomination approved date:  1st March, 2019.

Document Requested:  12th March, 2019  healthcheck,  IELTS result        --- privided on 13th March, 2019

VISA Granted: 10th April, 2019    Status Changed from Receive to Finalized directly.

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2 minutes ago, SAJ.N said:

Does this affect people who already applied but haven't received the PR yet?

Does 2019-2020 mean July-2019 till June-2020?

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Occupation: Analyst Programmer
State: VIC
Birth Country: India
Stream: 457 - 186 TRT
Number of applicants: 6
ENS 186 Visa and Nomination applied:  November 23rd 2018

Nomination approved on the 1st April 2019

Visa Approved on : 5th April 2019
IMMI Status: Finalised

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Just curious, what will happen when the amount of visa 186&187 approvals hit the limit?

1, let the rest applicants wait until next financial year?

2, refuse as many nomination applications as they could by very picky processing standard?


 

 

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1 minute ago, qfmouse said:

Just curious, what will happen when the amount of visa 186&187 approvals hit the limit?

1, let the rest applicants wait until next financial year?

2, refuse as many nomination applications as they could by very picky processing standard?

I would say your assumptions are correct.  However with regards to point 2 - the department are already a lot stricter and in the last 2 years they do not have to request any further information and can refuse - there has been a big increase in refusals due to this measure of not having to ask for further information.

That is why it is very important that the pending applications are continuously up to date.

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Occupation: Marketing Specialist
State: NSW
Birth Country: LR
Stream: ENS TRT

Number of applicants: 2
ENS 186
Nomination applied: 14 June 2018 
Visa Application submitted: 29 June 2018

IMMI Status: Received

 

For Newbies: 
1. Update your Profile: -> https://www.pomsinoz.com/settings/signature/ or click on your account in the top right -> Account Settings -> Signature
2. The Spreadsheet is here: ENS 186 Timeline - Google Sheets

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