moresunnydays Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Hi Everyone, our cpv application was acknowledged on 6 september 2007 but we still do not have a case officer, should we be concerned? Is there anyone on the forum who had an acknowledgement date later than ourelves and has been allocated a case officer? We thought that we might have heard something by now. Thanks for any help, Hazel and Allan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gollywobbler Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Hi Everyone, our cpv application was acknowledged on 6 september 2007 but we still do not have a case officer, should we be concerned? Is there anyone on the forum who had an acknowledgement date later than ourelves and has been allocated a case officer? We thought that we might have heard something by now. Thanks for any help, Hazel and Allan. Hello Hazel and Allan Welcome to Poms in Oz. Hmmmm. Two other people who lodged their applications just a tad later than you are asking the same question over on the Go Matilda forum: Contributory Parent Visas - Update on Processing Timelines - Topic Powered by eve community I'd suggest the same to you as to them: phone the POPC, find out where you stand and whatever you discover, please, please be kind enough to post again on here and let us know? On the forums the processing of any visa subclass becomes like a family - everybody involved with the same visa is in the same boat, so everyone gets to know everyone else and the more information-sharing there is, the better. Best wishes Gill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gollywobbler Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Anyone else had to fill in Form 1221? Our CO asked for it so we're meekly plodding through it, and we've just got to 'what is the general purpose of your journey/further stay?' and 'how long do you intend to stay in Australia?' - giving space for dates of arrival and departure. Is it just me, or are these bloody silly questions to ask immediately after you've ticked a box saying 'permanent residency'. (Perhaps you're supposed to estimate a death date!) Mary Hi Mary DIAC have a "one size fits all" approach to their Forms, and they are the masters of asking the Bloody Silly Question in my experience! They have a whole department which does nothing except devise and revise all the forms. The Reinvent The Wheel Unit, I expect. POPC is also asking for documents from our son that he sent with his original Form 40, so he'll have to re-send them if they've gone missing too. I was assuming all the problems were down to the agency because they were so generally inefficient, but it does begin to look as if something's gone wrong at the Perth end as well - perhaps that somehow explains why we got our CO so long after other people who were acknowledged after us. The pay that DIAC offer is so low that they have probably managed to hire the least competent filing clerk in the whole of Perth. It would not surprise me, unfortunately. Keep plodding, hun. It is the only thing you can do but you will get there in the end and at least you are not playing Chinese Whispers any longer. That is worse than having to deal with the current confusion, for sure. Chin up. Best wishes Gill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gliddon Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Hi Gill, Yes, we'd already decided DIAC must have a highly specialised team of experts working on the finer points of asking Bloody Silly Questions. I particularly appreciate the way they ask for the same basic information in three differently numbered Forms, but make the wording subtly different so that you have to puzzle it out all over again each time! Still, we're getting somewhere at last. I've now actually spoken to our CO, and she's sent a corrected version of the letter that messed up my date of birth, and what's more she suggested sending it directly to my son, before I asked. He has his Centrelink appointment next Thursday, which is brilliant. The missing document saga seems to be settling down to a slanging match between POPC and our ex-agents, along the classic pantomime lines of 'They were signed for. Oh, no they weren't! Oh, yes they were! Oh, no they weren't!...' Our CO (it's such a relief to be able to say that at last) suggests we leave it with them for a few more days in case they can track the deliveries after all, but we're all ready to go with re-sending Form 80 and getting new police certs if it proves necessary. And our son is going to re-send his evidence of settlement - he's become a citizen since he sent it last time, so is now even more settled! Best of all, we've booked our flights. We're off on November 25th whatever happens, so there! Thanks for all your advice and concern, it's been a great support in traumatic times. Mary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancient brits Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 Hi Everyone, our cpv application was acknowledged on 6 september 2007 but we still do not have a case officer, should we be concerned? Is there anyone on the forum who had an acknowledgement date later than ourelves and has been allocated a case officer? We thought that we might have heard something by now. Thanks for any help, Hazel and Allan. Hi moresunnydays As we are now in Aus on a tourist visa waiting!!! my OH phoned POPC last week to ask politely "where is our case officer?" as we too have been waiting since 4th Sept 2007. The answer was, "yes we have literally just been allocated a case officer, but she is on holiday until Friday 17th Oct so will not be contacting us till after that." We are using an agent and when OH contacted her to say that according to POPC we do have a CO, now what," she said that she had not heard this. She then contacted POPC immediately to clarify and they told her the same that we do have a CO and explained that she is on holiday etc. We are now waiting again!!!!!!!:arghh: At least we have a name for our CO and as soon as we hear anything further I will put an update on to here. Here's hoping that you will hear soon, Best wishes Rita Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tracynben Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 hi everyone, seen as there are lots of posts on here i need some advice about the contribution parent visa. When i get my residency i want to sponsor my parents to come over here, if they want to. Do they need a certain amount of points to be considered for the visa? As i will be sponsoring them what do i need to do, i believe you have to put money down in a bond, how long is that for, and how do they work out how much? Lastly my parents are separated, so can i still sponsor them together or spereate applications ? thanks tracy xxxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gliddon Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 Hi Tracy, No, there's no points system for parents' visas, but they must meet the 'balance of family' condition. Basically, they must have more children in Australia than in any other single country. The bond amount and duration is a fixed amount, not means-tested, so they don't have to work it out. We're going on a 143, which is a total of $14,000 for the two of us, but I don't know if separated parents would have to be at the single rate of $10,000 each. Gollywobbler will know - she seems to know everything! Glad you found this site - we've found it a godsend for help and support. Whatever your worries, there's probably someone on here with some answers. Best wishes, Mary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moresunnydays Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 Hi Gill, yes, we will contact POPC as you suggest and post the info here, thanks for your help, Hazel and Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moresunnydays Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 Hi Rita, thanks for that info and perhaps we share the same CO? But we will contact POPC and find out first hand, and you will be so relieved that the long wait is over, we hope that the rest of the process goes smoothly for you, Thanks and Good Luck, Hazel and Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gollywobbler Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 hi everyone, seen as there are lots of posts on here i need some advice about the contribution parent visa.When i get my residency i want to sponsor my parents to come over here, if they want to. Do they need a certain amount of points to be considered for the visa? As i will be sponsoring them what do i need to do, i believe you have to put money down in a bond, how long is that for, and how do they work out how much? Lastly my parents are separated, so can i still sponsor them together or spereate applications ? thanks tracy xxxx Hi Tracy If your Parents were able to apply for Contributory Parent Visas today, the costs would be as follows: $1,420.00 (application fee, which pays for processing the application.) $32,725.00 (2nd Instalment, which is not payable till just before the visa is granted.) $10,000 (CPV Bond, which is held in the Commonwealth Bank for 10 years.) The fees rise on 1st July each year but the figures I have given you come into effect on Monday 27th October 2008. The idea of this visa, and the reason why "Contributory" is in its title, is that the Parent has not spent a lifetime paying into the Medicare system and no National Insurance contributions paid in the UK can be transferred to Australia. Elderly care is potentially very expensive. So the Australian Government decided that it is reasonable to ask the Parent for a one-off contribution towards the potential future cost of his/her medical and associated care in Australia. The contribution is decided annually by the Australian Government Actuary, based on predicted health care costs supplied to him by the Department of Health & Ageing. The contribution is 12.5% of whatever the Actuary calculates the total likely cost to be, leaving the Australian tax payer with the other 87.5% of the potential bill. The original promise about this visa was that it would be fast track in comparison with the old, long-standing, non contributory Parent visa. When the Contributory Parent scheme was new in 2003, the visas were being processed within 3-6 months compared to about 8 years for the non contributory Parent visa. By the time we went through the CPV process with my mother in 2005/2006, the visas were taking about 9 months from start to finish. The most recent grants have taken about 18 months on average and the Perth Offshore Parents Centre (POPC) have released figures recently which suggest that CPV processing will take about 2 years for any application received after about 1st October 2008. All Parent visas are subject to "capping." That is, the Government sets a quota of each visa for the year and the POPC cannot grant more than the permitted quota. From 2003 to 2008, the annual quuota of CPVs was 3,500 a year, as opposed to only 1,000 non contributory Parent visas a year. On 1st July 2008 the Minister increased the CPV quota to 6,500 visas a year and 2,000 non contributory Parent visas. The non-contributory visas are taking around 8 years to process and we have a lady member who was granted her Parent 103 visa recently after a long wait. She and her dog will be with her children and grandchildren in NSW in time for Christmas and I am chuffed to bits for the whole family. Whether the Minister will increase the CPV quota again in 2009 remains to be seen and it is unlikely that any decision will be announced before about May 2009. Parents are way down in the pecking order for consideration in the Migration Program, so to get any attention at all for them this year was a huge leap forward. To get the Minister to pay attention to the predicaments of Parents and their Aussie-based children two years ago may be hoping for too much in the great scheme of things but we might as well live in hope. Parent visa applicants must be sponsored by their child in Australia - ie by you. The Sponsor undertakes that if the Parent falls on hard times during his/her first two years in Australia the Sponsor will ensure that the Parent has no need to claim Special Benefit from Centrelink (social security.) In addition an Assurance of Support is required, backed up by the Bond. Centrelink administer the AoS scheme on behalf of DIAC which is why Mary (gliddon) has mentioned that her son has been asked to go for an interview with Centrelink. Up to three people can club together to provide the AoS and they need not be related to the visa applicant or to each other, but in practice if the Sponsor is their daughter and she can't work full time because of child care commitments, the Assurers will generally be the daughter and son-in-law jointly. Under the AoS, if the Parent claims one or more of a range of Benefits during his/her first 10 years in Australia, the amount paid by Centrelink is recoverable from the Bond and if the Bond is insufficient then the excess is recoverable from the Assurers personally. The Assurers are means tested by Centrelink to ensure that they can afford the commitment, but the level of income they have to prove is not excessive and most people can afford it. NO payouts or concessions related to Health are recoverable from the Bond because Health has been taken care of in a separate bargain, via the contribution or 2nd Instalment. The Assurers are not asked to deposit the Bond with the Commonwealth Bank until the final stages of processing the visa are in progress. Paying the 2nd Instalment is the final step before the visa is granted. If you would care to PM me with more information about your Parents' circumstances, and particularly their current ages, I may be able to help you further. Meanwhile, please read Booklet 3 and the stuff about Parent visas on the DIAC website: Family - Visas & Immigration Parent Migration Booklet Best wishes Gill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gliddon Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Just had e-mail from CO - our Form 80's and police certs have turned up after all!! She confirmed there's now nothing else outstanding except the AOS, which is on track as our son has his Centrelink appointment this Thursday. It's a bit early in the day for a large G&T, but there's one with my name on it for this evening! Mary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizg Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Excellent news Mary. Have another on me! Liz x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jewatt Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Just had e-mail from CO - our Form 80's and police certs have turned up after all!! She confirmed there's now nothing else outstanding except the AOS, which is on track as our son has his Centrelink appointment this Thursday.It's a bit early in the day for a large G&T, but there's one with my name on it for this evening! Mary Great news Mary you will be over the moon its a great feeling when you get to this stage it wont be long from now once they ask for the 2nd instalment its just a couple of days so will keep the G & T to toast you on ice in the meantime, Evelyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gollywobbler Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Just had e-mail from CO - our Form 80's and police certs have turned up after all!! She confirmed there's now nothing else outstanding except the AOS, which is on track as our son has his Centrelink appointment this Thursday.It's a bit early in the day for a large G&T, but there's one with my name on it for this evening! Mary Hi Mary Brilliant news! It won't be much longer now, as Evelyn has said. It should be straightforward from now on as well. Make sure that your CO knows that you plan to travel to Oz on 25th November whatever happens. If your CO knows this in plenty of time, I'll bet that she'll make sure that you have your CPVs in time to use them for your journey to Oz. Best wishes Gill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandch Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Dear all - this forum thread is an excellent source of information (but if only it was on a faster server!!). This is just to let you know that to help understand the timescales for this visa type we maintain a simple record of the CPV key dates on CPV key dates tracker. This reflects mainly people on the British Expats forum. Because a lot of us are subscribed to both, and tend to use different usernames, some members of this forum are already on the list - but I admit it can be a bit confusing to know if I am duplicating entries (at the moment I think it is clean). If anyone would like to be added (or have information corrected) do let me know. We don't publish names of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest OldiesRUs Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Hi Everyone I haven't been on the thread for a while - been so busy organising house going on the market, shippers, financial advisors and sorting out 40 years of crap in the loft!!!!! It is our Ruby Wedding in a couple of weeks and we have told people not to buy us anything - we have only just got rid of wedding presents that we have never used, so we don't want anymore. Hope that doesn't sound ungrateful. Nothing is happening on the house sale front, so looks like we are going to have to rent it out for a year or so as we are planning on leaving in February. Going to do my first ever boot sale on Sunday. I really can't believe that anyone is going to want my rubbish, but my cousin (an ardent boot saler) insists they will. Just thought I would pop in and say hello to let you know that I am still thinking of everyone who is still waiting. You'll get there and then you will go from being in limbo to frantic activity. Jean:wubclub: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gollywobbler Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Ji Jean Nothing is happening on the house sale front, so looks like we are going to have to rent it out for a year or so as we are planning on leaving in February. Going to do my first ever boot sale on Sunday. I really can't believe that anyone is going to want my rubbish, but my cousin (an ardent boot saler) insists they will. You will love the car boot sale! Mum & I did one together once - the first either of us had done as sellers not as browsing buyers. We got there at about 7am because it opened at 8am and all the old hands told us "get there early." The car hatchback and the rear door were unlocked so that I'd be able to get the boxes etc out. No need! Fellow stall-holders - total strangers - dived into the car and started rummaging through the boxes without even waiting for them to be loaded, never mind unpacked and laid out! Still - we made £130 out of kit that would otherwise have gone to the tip. Astounding! Cheers Gill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gollywobbler Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Hi Sandch Welcome to Poms in Oz. I've got one addition for you, a couple called R&M who are friends of mine but they do not post on the forums. Their CPV 143 application was lodged on 1st July 2008, which is nice & straightforward. You may be interested in the second page of this thread as well because there are two more couples on that, plus one of the couples have been told by the POPC that it is currently taking them 15 months after the lodgement date before a CO makes contact: Contributory Parent Visas - Update on Processing Timelines - Topic Powered by eve community Someone should phone the POPC and discover why there is this "temporary delay", I reckon. It is sooooo frustrating when they give out a piece of information like that but make no attempt to explain why it has happened! Best wishes Gill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandch Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Thanks Gill - I've added R&M, but at first sight couldn't see any other firm dates. I'm sure the list will grow however as the timescale starts to stretch! The problem with the absence of official information is that lots of random snippets will try to fill the demand. We'll grab at anything. All the best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gliddon Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Hi sandch, I post on here as gliddon, but also keep an eye on British Expats. You can add us to your list, though we're not exactly standard because of the various problems we've hit along the way. Acknowledged 07-08-07, Meds 14-07-08, CO 08-10-08, AOS now pending. (We think we may actually have been allocated the CO slightly earlier, but our useless agents didn't keep us informed - that's partly why we ditched them.) Mary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizg Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Dear all - this forum thread is an excellent source of information (but if only it was on a faster server!!). This is just to let you know that to help understand the timescales for this visa type we maintain a simple record of the CPV key dates on CPV key dates tracker. This reflects mainly people on the British Expats forum. Because a lot of us are subscribed to both, and tend to use different usernames, some members of this forum are already on the list - but I admit it can be a bit confusing to know if I am duplicating entries (at the moment I think it is clean).If anyone would like to be added (or have information corrected) do let me know. We don't publish names of course. I'd be happy to be added to list - see below for date application acknowedged as received. Letter advised 12 months before CO assigned, Regards LizG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandch Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 I'd be happy to be added to list - see below for date application acknowedged as received. Letter advised 12 months before CO assigned,Regards LizG All done LizG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les-babs1315@hotmail.com Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Hello iclark955 Welcome to Poms in Oz. At present the POPC are taking around 6 weeks to acknowledge receipt of CPV applications. Some friends of mine submitted theirs recently but did not send Forms 80 with the main application (the Checklist doesn't ask for Form 80.) The chap who sent the acknowledgement letter sent the link for Form 80 asking the Parents to complete one each and to send them to him as soon as they conveniently could: http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/pdf/80.pdf Also, the POPC have - in the last 24 hours - produced a fact/information sheet about CPV processing, which is here: Go Matilda - Your Gateway to Australia - News Please keep in touch and keep us posted with your progress. We have lots of other recent CPV applicant members and/or their children, plus yet more preparing applications or just waiting till they can apply. Best wishes Gill Hello Gill, Everybody. We have today recieved our acknowledgement of receipt, 25-Oct-2008, recieved by POPC on the 2nd Oct, it was quicker then we expected lets hope that this is a good sign. There is no request to send in forms 80. It does say that at the moment that case officers are processing contributory parent visa 143 applications that were lodged on 01-Sep-2007. Now the waiting begins:sad: Regards Les & Babs Good luck to everybody who is on the long road to OZ:daydreaming: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les-babs1315@hotmail.com Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 I'd be happy to be added to list - see below for date application acknowedged as received. Letter advised 12 months before CO assigned,Regards LizG Hi you can add us to your list, visa acknowledgement CP 143, 25 October 2008, Recieved by POPC on the 2nd October 2008. Now the waiting begins. Regards Les & Babs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest missymon Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Dear all - this forum thread is an excellent source of information (but if only it was on a faster server!!). This is just to let you know that to help understand the timescales for this visa type we maintain a simple record of the CPV key dates on CPV key dates tracker. This reflects mainly people on the British Expats forum. Because a lot of us are subscribed to both, and tend to use different usernames, some members of this forum are already on the list - but I admit it can be a bit confusing to know if I am duplicating entries (at the moment I think it is clean).If anyone would like to be added (or have information corrected) do let me know. We don't publish names of course. Hi Sandch Please could you add us to your key dates tracker? We sent our CPV173 application off to Perth on 21st March 2008, they recieved it Ist April and we got letter of acknowledgement on 17th April. Many thanks. Great idea btw.:yes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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