Melbkitty Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 What needs to be changed is not the amount of breath test but the punishment for DD.. It's very weak... Just take the E plate for example.. E plate means I've been done so many times for DD that the judge still let's me drive to and from work so it doesn't effect my life to much.. Then you can drive on you rego so your insurance doesn't get affected Vic hands out alcohol interlocks pretty readily, I have clients who have had them fitted for 2/3 years. I actually think the penalty for drink driving here is reasonable, plus a lower BAC limit than alot of Countries including the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinkla Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 What needs to be changed is not the amount of breath test but the punishment for DD.. It's very weak... It's not in Victoria - the penalties are very harsh indeed and make the UK look cruisy: http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Home/SafetyAndRules/RoadRules/Penalties/DrinkDrivingPenalties.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melbkitty Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 We don't have an e plate in SA. But yes, the punishment should be more. Driving tests should be far more in depth than they seem to be here (who's bright idea was log books?). The dangerous drivers seem to be in three groups here in SA (from my observation). Middle aged men, who simply don't seem to know how to drive, p platers who just have too much confidence and not enough sense, and Asian people (sorry, not racist at all, but of about 50% of the dodgy driving I see here is Asians). The first thing my driving instructor said to me here was 'just watch out for the Asians'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Que Sera Sera Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 I'm not sure if drink driving is worse here, I think it's about the same as the village I came from in the UK. Living in the country it wasan everyday occurrence to see certain people drive from pub to pub. There were many who didn't work and were in the local Wetherspoons from Breakfast to closing then get in a car and drive home. We had no buses running after 6.00 pm and the taxi's were extortionate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeegieDave Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 I am not too sure if DD is any worse here as I can't say I have witnessed much of it although there is a big 'Rev Head' culture in WA with young people screaming around in V8's in an aggressive manner. I was quite taken aback by it when I first arrived here and how people at that age are able to get insured on such a powerful car. Also tailgaiting is a huge issue and lack of rules or formation on the highways where people are undercutting and swinging in and out of lanes just to get a few cars ahead in the queue. I love Perth but it seems when people get inside a car they turn into an ignorant ar$ehole!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicolac34 Posted November 29, 2013 Author Share Posted November 29, 2013 I've never actually seen any hooning taking place, but hear it occasionally where I live, and see the evidence of it all over the streets on my way to work the next day. I'd imagine living on one of the roads where they do it frequently would be quite scary. I just think bad driving or drink driving just ruins so many lives. Another work colleague has a friend in prison serving 3 years for killing a pedestrian whilst drunk at the wheel, he was driving home from the pub, 5 minutes from his house. Not only has he ruined another families lives, he's ruined his own. He went to prison and left his fiance with their toddler and pregnant with their second. I'm sure it happens all over the world, I just have more awareness for it here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibbs Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 I am not too sure if DD is any worse here as I can't say I have witnessed much of it although there is a big 'Rev Head' culture in WA with young people screaming around in V8's in an aggressive manner. I was quite taken aback by it when I first arrived here and how people at that age are able to get insured on such a powerful car. Some states have limits for P platers (no Turbo's, no V8s) but with WA being so huge, it seems pointless out in the sticks. The UK doesn't have any limits on what you can drive. And who says they have insurance. It's not required. I wouldn't say it's massively different. Instead of burnouts and sliding about in a Micra on Maccy D's trays in the UK, it's sliding around a deserted road, in your work Ute instead. And there is nothing wrong with V8s .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeegieDave Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Some states have limits for P platers (no Turbo's, no V8s) but with WA being so huge, it seems pointless out in the sticks. The UK doesn't have any limits on what you can drive. And who says they have insurance. It's not required. I wouldn't say it's massively different. Instead of burnouts and sliding about in a Micra on Maccy D's trays in the UK, it's sliding around a deserted road, in your work Ute instead. And there is nothing wrong with V8s .. No need to be so defensive! :wink: IMO, the driving in WA is crap! Also, I agree, nothing wrong with V8's as long as they are driven by responsible people but from what I have witnessed and point of this thread it is quite often not the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibbs Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Ha ha .. I'm just an old (mid 30s) hoon. Part of my problem is naturally I'm a quick and aggressive driver and I just can't drive like that here. Driving quick/aggressive attracts too much attention and other road users just are not ready (or looking) for others driving like that. In London it's not an issue. For 10 years commuting on the M4 corridor it was normal. I'm glad I don't have to drive to work any more. Also the reason I went to a track. Gets it out my system for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Shoes Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Then stop people when they are hooning. your ur joking aren't you ..... How can I stop them, I don't have a blue flashing light or uniform :wink: And I assume I am correct in thinking hooning is what we call d$&@ head driving :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eng32 Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 As some one else said, the rubbish and very expensive taxi services don't help the situation. I know a few people who consistently drink and drive :confused: And I find in Queensland, speeding is the norm. A friend of mine's hushand has just lost his licence for the third time due to speeding offences. She said he just doesn't care one bit about the speed limits, and just does what he wants! My husband and I take turns to be the 'designated driver' which isn't much fun as one person is always sober as a judge. But a $50 taxi ride home is just not on.... Shocking driving on the whole here......end of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 It's the issue with having a rubbish taxi system, combined with expensive pubs so people socialise at others houses. People wont use buses, and the trains are limited. It's why the wife and I spent ages looking for a house near a train station. I'm constantly out in the city and never have to worry about getting home. The driving is just different here. Less attention to other cars, more attention to speed. But then I was out 'hooning' on a race track yesterday, practising my driving. Good thinking. Always buy walking distance to a train station. Of course if you feel safe travelling on the train after hours is another question, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 That's the thing though, I think people DO get away with drink driving over here, I know people who've been caught over the limit and get told to 'wait 30 minutes' and then be on their way. Most think nothing of going out drinking all day and then switching to water an hour before they want to drive and think that is sufficient. I wouldn't trust any app to estimate whether I could drive, I just wouldn't drink in the first place. I also hate driving here, used to love it in England, now I avoid it where I can. Folk here are far more conscious of drink driving than in previous times. The enormous fall in road fatalities over the years reflect that plus better and safer cars of course. There was a time when distance was measured in how many slabs of beer could be consumed between towns. Drunk and extremely aggressive driving was rife and considered all part of the tough Aussie bloke scene. Things have calmed down considerably. Pubs are close to empty during the week these days. More drink at home as someone else mentioned. Perhaps more drunken driving or as much in outlaying suburbs, but those tend to take the rat route home avoiding main roads where possible to escape attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest66881 Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Deb pulling off our driveway yesterday, had to stop as a dickhead in an over sized 4x4 came hammering down our little road, no intentions of driving normally or slowly or thinking of anyone else on the roads, he screamed off around the bend at the top and you could still hear the tosser going up Marmion, he was about 20 odd going on 3 i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Que Sera Sera Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Ha yes P players in massive 4x4s mad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 It does pay to have a vehicle with a bit of grunt that will inflict more damage not to say protect your life in time of an accident. (which will happen at some stage to most of us) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeegieDave Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 It does pay to have a vehicle with a bit of grunt that will inflict more damage not to say protect your life in time of an accident. (which will happen at some stage to most of us) If I ever have kids over here I will be ensuring I buy a big f*ck off 4 x 4 to reduce the chances of some d!ckhead on the freeway tailgaiting me and ending up ramming into my back seats when the car in front has to break sharply as someone has cut in front of him without warning!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ptp113 Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Deb pulling off our driveway yesterday, had to stop as a dickhead in an over sized 4x4 came hammering down our little road, no intentions of driving normally or slowly or thinking of anyone else on the roads, he screamed off around the bend at the top and you could still hear the tosser going up Marmion, he was about 20 odd going on 3 i think. "Why are you always so nasty to me?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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