SaintRef Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Permenant Resident here. Very happy in Oz, with no intention of returning to the UK other than a holiday. I've done my time and have now applied for Australian Citizenship, which I will have shortly. My question to the forum is, what is the advantage of keeping my UK passport valid, once I have my Australian passport? An Australian passport is as welcome in pretty much all the same countries as the UK (Brazil is an exception, but any others?), so why keep both? Your thoughts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlefoot Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 What advantage would there be in not keeping both valid? The more options you have, the better. Who knows where life could lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blossom Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Incase you want to visit the uk, or want to travel in Europe without having to think about visas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRef Posted July 28, 2013 Author Share Posted July 28, 2013 Saves me money renewing a passport I'll rarely use... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRef Posted July 28, 2013 Author Share Posted July 28, 2013 Aussies don't have problem entering Europe, and once in they can move freely... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blossom Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Aussies don't have problem entering Europe, and once in they can move freely... Well they certainly need a visa for the uk... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skani Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Is there any likelihood that you will have to go to the UK at short notice - for illness of elderly parents, for example? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blossom Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Saves me money renewing a passport I'll rarely use... You don't HAVE to renue it. You can apply for one only when you want to go to the uk (where you need it as a citizen of the uk). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LKC Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Having or not having a valid UK passport has no bearing on whether you are a UK citizen, as far as I understand it. After all, how many people live in the UK and have no passport at all, but are still citizens. UK citizenship is something that you either have through birth or through naturalisation, regardless of whether your passport is up to date. If you travel to the UK from Australia as an Australian citizen, you will need to leave and enter Australia on your Australian passport. That is a valid travel document that will allow you to travel to the UK. What will get you in to the UK without a visa, is a British passport, whether valid or not, because by having had one you are eligible to enter the UK, as a citizen of the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Yes that's right. Letting your UK passport lapse doesn't mean you lose your citizenship of the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Ropey HOFF Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 I think the benefits are that when there's a downturn in the economy like the UK has suffered over the last five years and if you or your kids are struggling to find a decent well paid job, or career then the opportunities might be better in Australia and similarly if Australia has a downturn in the future and the UK picks up, which it's showing signs of doing so, you might fancy returning for awhile. Both countries are great and having dual nationality to be able to live in either, is a fantastic bonus to me and is one of the main reasons I want to emigrate, to give my kids this great opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Que Sera Sera Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Choice not just for you but your children and grandchildren :yes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Ropey HOFF Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Choice not just for you but your children and grandchildren :yes: I said that to my wife, we are not only giving our kids this great opportunity, but also our grand kids when they are born. What a great legacy to leave your family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolvesaussie Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 No one has mentioned the obvious one, you can commit a crime, they can take your passport off you and then u flee the country on the other one It also helped me to buy Olympic Tickets from the UK , Australian and New Zealand allocations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRef Posted July 28, 2013 Author Share Posted July 28, 2013 I think the benefits are that when there's a downturn in the economy like the UK has suffered over the last five years and if you or your kids are struggling to find a decent well paid job, or career then the opportunities might be better in Australia and similarly if Australia has a downturn in the future and the UK picks up, which it's showing signs of doing so, you might fancy returning for awhile. Both countries are great and having dual nationality to be able to live in either, is a fantastic bonus to me and is one of the main reasons I want to emigrate, to give my kids this great opportunity. Good point, and fortunatly I have already obtained both passports for my kids. Don't want to deny them any opportunities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRef Posted July 28, 2013 Author Share Posted July 28, 2013 Well they certainly need a visa for the uk... Not true. UK Visa is not required for Australians for a tourist stay of up to 6 months.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Well they certainly need a visa for the uk... I recently visited UK i am an Aussie and never had a visa....??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Saves me money renewing a passport I'll rarely use... If you place the money factor over the advantages of having dual citizenship then I guess you've answered your initial question. There is the thing of course no matter what you think of Australia at present, that a time may come when you want to return. It is a gift to be able to have two citizenships something I'd keep up to date. In fact I'd take others if I could even though probably never live in those countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmjg Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Useful if you wish to travel to some underrated part of the world. You will get entry stamps to those countries. Other countries you may visit (US, Israel) may see these entry stamps and deny you entry. Two passports may alleviate these little issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Aussies don't have problem entering Europe, and once in they can move freely... Obviously one can move freely on an Aussie passport. But I still recall when visa's were required for France, Spain and all the East Block countries. Not sure what the visa situation is like these days but still three months validity in EU. UK immigration can be very inquisitive into where staying, reasons for being in country and inability to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 I recently visited UK i am an Aussie and never had a visa....??? A visitor gets issued a visa at point of entry. Or declined as the case may be. Any suspicions of seeking employment can result in a visa being denied. Same as if immigration suspects a person does not have enough funds to support their stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 The OZ passport opens up New Zealand, while the UK opens up the entire EU. Well worth whatever cost involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skani Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 No one has mentioned the obvious one, you can commit a crime, they can take your passport off you and then u flee the country on the other one Crikey! Never thought of that. I'll keep it in mind....just in case.:wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRef Posted July 28, 2013 Author Share Posted July 28, 2013 If you place the money factor over the advantages of having dual citizenship then I guess you've answered your initial question.There is the thing of course no matter what you think of Australia at present, that a time may come when you want to return. It is a gift to be able to have two citizenships something I'd keep up to date. In fact I'd take others if I could even though probably never live in those countries. ....But what are the advantages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blossom Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 A visitor gets issued a visa at point of entry. Or declined as the case may be. Any suspicions of seeking employment can result in a visa being denied. Same as if immigration suspects a person does not have enough funds to support their stay. Exactly. A visa is still needed, and they can turn you away. They can't turn away a citizen (with proof of citizenship). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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