wolvesaussie Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 hi quick question for anyone in the know. im considering a job offer in Melbourne. they want a start asap so I think they are going to want me to put my notice in on tuesday after the.bank holiday. However I havent got anything formal yet from them. what do I need from them to be confident I can resign and organise a rushed move without being exposing myself to any financial risk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northshorepom Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 A signed offer letter which forms your contract of employment (when you sign and return it). May have conditions attached, eg the passing of a medical or similar, but nothing less is acceptable IMO. Once you have this, they can't back out without compensating you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy1 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 A signed contract is a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest76088 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 I would accept nothing less than a signed offer on behalf of the company by someone eligible to make such an offer with details of T&Cs. Anything else will end in tears. If they are not able to commit to writing, ask yourself why not. BigD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickled Pink Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 As already said, a signed and dated contract by all parties would be the only thing I'd hand m notice in for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolvesaussie Posted May 2, 2013 Author Share Posted May 2, 2013 so this is going to be trouble isnt it for me. it will take two weeks for contract to get back to them, when I told them originally I couldnt come for six weeks they said they would go with another candidate in that case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickled Pink Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 If the really wanted you they would wait, it's not as if you're talking six months. A contract is the only thing that will really protect you, being legally binding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolvesaussie Posted May 2, 2013 Author Share Posted May 2, 2013 true but if there is little to choose between us and maybe the other person can start in two weeks I know which one I would hire if it was desperate need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy1 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 so this is going to be trouble isnt it for me. it will take two weeks for contract to get back to them, when I told them originally I couldnt come for six weeks they said they would go with another candidate in that case. Why would it take two weeks to get back to them? It can be expressed mailed internationally, or it can easily be emailed or faxed and be delivered instantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolvesaussie Posted May 2, 2013 Author Share Posted May 2, 2013 but dont they need to sign send to me (so I know they signed it). then takes 5 days to get here then the same back. My mum sent me olympic tickets from aus express post took 4 or 5 daya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickled Pink Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Why would it take two weeks to get back to them? It can be expressed mailed internationally, or it can easily be emailed or faxed and be delivered instantly. Express post certainly. But I know employers in my line of work would not accept fax or emailed (electronically signed) contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northshorepom Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 so this is going to be trouble isnt it for me. it will take two weeks for contract to get back to them, when I told them originally I couldnt come for six weeks they said they would go with another candidate in that case. Scanned and e-mailed in this day and age is good enough for every company I know. Even in Australia, where of course generally you have to get your farts certified by a JP before they count....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northshorepom Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Express post certainly. But I know employers in my line of work would not accept fax or emailed (electronically signed) contracts. They would in mine. Guess it varies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy1 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Express post certainly. But I know employers in my line of work would not accept fax or emailed (electronically signed) contracts. I signed, then scanned the document and emailed it for the current position I am in. Most establishments are happy to accept that method as it's pretty standard these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolvesaussie Posted May 2, 2013 Author Share Posted May 2, 2013 oh thats good might not be end of world then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix16 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Wolfaussie!! I've read a few of your posts, I seriously don't think your going to struggle to find work but I do understand you want the job to fly home to. I don't get in this day and age why you can't sign a contract, scan it in and voila, it's arrived in OZ that day??? seriously, I do think when you land in OZ, you will find the jobs, I can't back it up with evidence, I just think if you want to get back to OZ, do it and you will be surprised, just my advice........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolvesaussie Posted May 2, 2013 Author Share Posted May 2, 2013 thanks jessie its more to make my girlfriend happy having something lined up. shes a teacher and a lot of people down playing her chances of finding work so it would make her feel a lot more relaxed knowing we wont have to sponge off my folks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix16 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Hi Wolfaussie! I can only speak from experience but I think the biggest factor here in OZ is confidence!! My friend is a teacher (from Ireland) she earned about $300 a day casual until she got her teachers 'accreditation' then her wages bumped to $500 a day, casual and no certainty of work every day and obviously no holiday pay etc! She's a plucky gal and I con honestly say it was her confidence and tenacity that gets her the work. I was a very successful manager in UK, worked my way to the top through hard work and knowing my stuff, moving to OZ was a hard knock for me as I'm not a confident pushy person and I'm not a blagger but I can honestly say, confidence and blagging in addition to the right connections gets you the job, unfortunately that's the way it seems to be here and I meet many pushy people who talk the talk, can't walk the walk but their well connected, you need the confidence to network and blag here!! And also, make sure you've got loads of wonderful stuff on your thumb drive before you leave!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoll Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Sign and scan and email for sure, hard copy in the mail but don't resign your job, take a career break if you can. Ditto for your GF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolvesaussie Posted May 2, 2013 Author Share Posted May 2, 2013 girlfriend asked for break turned down on grounds of her being a science teacher and they would strggle to replace her with anyone good if not a perm job. head would have let her if a humanities teacher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickled Pink Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 I signed, then scanned the document and emailed it for the current position I am in. Most establishments are happy to accept that method as it's pretty standard these days. Most but clearly not all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incata Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 so this is going to be trouble isnt it for me. it will take two weeks for contract to get back to them, when I told them originally I couldnt come for six weeks they said they would go with another candidate in that case. Scan it in and email it back. Then send it as well. That way they have it and you have evidence that you have sent it (as email counts in law). If you don't have a scanner, PC World do scanning at their counter. Sometimes they can do it the same day, sometimes it takes a couple of days, depending on how busy they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incata Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 but dont they need to sign send to me (so I know they signed it). then takes 5 days to get here then the same back. My mum sent me olympic tickets from aus express post took 4 or 5 daya No they can scan and email it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emma132 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Good to see that you got a job! If I remember you were looking in ICT? Was it via a recruitment agency or direct to a company? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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