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I think State Sponsorship is 'only' morally binding...if that hasn't changed in the meantime. And I have also heard and seen of many people who moved interstate. Actually, many young South Australians move to Victoria/Melbourne, sometime 80 % of a year (this is an estimate only as I don't have statistics to prove it). On the flipside - the positive side - only very few migrants make the move to Adelaide and even fewer to regional South Australia. Besides Tasmania we're the least populated state with the least increase in population. Adelaide is a very easy city in terms moving along, not so much traffic congestion and so on. Though it's a city of 'who you know not what you know' there are still opportunities in the job market as you would compete with less people though Aussie employers prefer 'local' experience ( local job experience was not necessary for my other half who secured work within 3 weeks of arrival but that was more than 5 1/2 years ago). If I were you I would give it a go and if you don't like it move interstate.

Depends on what kind of job you are looking for. There are still job opportunities and new people find jobs depending on the industry.

First of all, South Australia needs new roads. They are shocking...and also not good enough in comparison to the 'big players' Victoria + NSW. Once an appropriate infrastructure is created - especially to transport goods/import/export - jobs follow as a flow-on-effect. Migrants alone don't bring jobs as we have limited resources like water, electricity, roads. These issues needs an urgent overhaul - overdue!

Bullying is illegal in Australia and against the law. Are you member of a union? They offer help for members. Fairwork is certainly the way to go like Bobj suggested. Also have look here: https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=16&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjo_IXAuu_UAhVEbrwKHUdhDmkQFgh-MA8&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.humanrights.gov.au%2Fviolence-harassment-and-bullying&usg=AFQjCNEeFis_9Qf73_fA4I3rGGq71bMafQ

Julia Gillard + Mathias Corman are 2 well educated migrants with a successful Federal career for instance. But on the flip side had to renounce their citizenship or origin. The statement - though I deeply respect it's true intention and honestly belief that many of us care for our frail and sick parents only very few are going to relocate on the other side of the world again - it's such an banal and bathetic statement I hear over and over again and at the end of the day when you ask not only migrants but also family living interstate far away from their parents who really made the move it it's just so shattering to acknowledge that only a minority is really able to do so.

Before you lodge a comment I never claimed that studying above 40 is impossible, I said it's 'unlikely' in other words not many middle aged people will attend a Uni. When I have got the time I will post a link with the age structure of Australian Universities and their median age range and also the cost of attending a successful study of medicine and law. Then you can lodge your comment. I used to work in the Aged Care sector and can tell you about many adult children don't give a toss about to care for their elderly parents!!! This is a reality many don't want to hear and has nothing to do with my belief system as you haven't seen what I have seen! You don't know me or my belief system, either! I still hold respect for everybody who honestly cares and look after their elderly parents but I was pointing out to the realistic scenario to relocate 'on the spot' around the world for more than 5 years and than coming back to Australia again. So you will obviously relocate your children 3 times???? As adolescents don't want to relocate several times. Obviously not many people responding to my 'rude' = blunt + realistic post have children anymore and are all blessed to own a house outright! And never get too old themselves for the Australian job market as they may not need to work anymore and living on the inheritance of the departed. Good on ya

No, it won't. Your application needs to be approved first before being granted and that required to be a resident.

I wish to add another blatant lie by the 'Multicultural Leader". Germany for example didn't allow dual nationality per se by law like the UK or Australia (only limited dual citizenship is allowed in Germany to members of the European Union) and let people obtain citizenship but it's mandatory for the individual to revoke the person's citizenship of origin but only if from non-European countries.Most migrants from those non-European countries simply don't want to give up their citizenship of their home country! It's easy for them to obtain a German passport if they really want to but don't want to pay the price. The same is true for Norway which doesn't allow dual nationality and some other European countries like Austria, Poland, France (but only for French nationals) don't allow dual citizenship. Many migrants from certain countries simply prefer to have stronger ties to their country of origin and therefore see no need to take out citizenship of their 'adopted' country. So this article is just an unverified empty platitude.

This is NOT a benefit to me as I would lose my citizenship of my country of origin. Ha, ha you are an 'intelligent' person recommending others to deprive the citizenship of country of origin to they can NOT after their parents!!! and You have obviously no idea about countries not permitting their citizens to hold dual nationality? What a gain to hold an Aussie passport and not being able to look after my parents because my country of origin makes it a requirement to hold a visa while I would look after them which has to be renewed and also to reapply for a work permission. Or how would you look after your parents not working yourself? By the way, how many people are able to afford to go back to look after their parents with a mortgage and teenagers who don't wish to relocate again? To sell the house, resettle again etc. By the way, even with an Aussie passports we all get older down the track and ageism is still alive as far as I'm concerned and in my job my skills would be outdated coming back to Australia (depending on the industry you are in of course). So don't waste your breath for not knowing the situation of PR's who are not allowed to become dual nationals. It's only hooey in my ears.

Being a PR has no disadvantages as being an Aussie in general as basics like Medicare, tax benefit A, welfare benefits (after the waiting period is served), local voting rights are provided. The only negative part for PR' is to renew the travel facility after 5 years (but only if travel overseas is necessary) and PR can be cancelled after committing a crime. How realistic is it that established migrants with a mortgage, children at school will strive for a career as a student or becoming a pollie in Canberra? Not very likely I guess. Every PR who wishes to become a citizen will get there sooner or later. Well, most humans don't like changes. So, do I but we have to accept that many things in life are subject to change. Most of us came here voluntary and have to accept the changing rules of immigration + citizenship if we want to go on with our lives. We want something from Australia not vice versa. Australia is still one of the most generous countries in the world in regards to allow to apply for citizenship after 4 years waiting time only as a PR. Pauline Hanson wants to increase the waiting time to 8 years. Imagine she would have any influence in politics.

Norway doesn't allow dual nationality. Certainly a reason why some migrants stay PR as Norway in my opinion is above-standard and the richest country in the world with top quality living standards (me and hubby have been to Norway and would probably migrated there but the weather is too cold, dark and unpleasant)

There is no issue or disadvantage of not being able to vote for 5 years. I think many Aussies would wish to not vote as it's compulsory (not voluntary as in most countries). I know many Aussies who let it go, may get a fine or not. Voting is overrated anyway...as only once every 4 years the average Joe has a say so no show stopper of being a PR. By the way Jess you can vote as a PR, at least in Council elections which we did a couple of years before. In our country of origin migrants have to wait 8 (!) years before they are eligible to apply for citizenship + language test! And I know many more European countries where migrants have to wait 5-8 years. One of my friends actually had to wait 8 years before her eligibility though her kids and husband all were Germans. Took her 9 years with perfect language skills of matching her own nuclear family. So hey, Australia is still fair because PR's still wait 4 years unchanged whereas my other half is proud Aussie and I'm a proud PR.

Hopefully common sense will win in Parliament or the Senate. Why on earth should somebody redo an IELTS exam for citizenship when already passed with a band 6 for the visa many years before? It only makes sense for the secondary applicant who didn't sit the test in the first instance. It also gives the false impression that only when your English is good enough migrants would succeed in this country and undermines other values and attitudes from successful migrant stories like resilience, hard work and a vision to bring this country forward. English is very important don't get me wrong but IELTS 6.0 is just ridiculous. My partner and me share this account. Whereas 1 of us is Aussie already the other half is still PR and why should I on earth resit my IELTS one day? Writing is not the only issue I see here. When I did my IELTS back in 2011 my assessor for speaking was an old grumpy lady who gave me the topic to speak about 'advertisement'. Ha, ha, I still don't watch ads and switch programs. As I started to speak about advertisements from magazines and papers she then narrowed it down to 'No, I want your opinion on TV ads!' So I had a 'great' opportunity to show only limited vocabulary as this was not my topic at all. Hubby on the other hand had a great assessor and I heard them laughing through the wall! Topics were widespread and hubby allowed to speak about everything. I didn't appeal against my unfair and unjust treatment from my assessor as I still had score 7 overall and I was the 2nd applicant anyway so it was irrelevant. I just want to warn anybody that pitfalls not only lie in 'writing' or 'reading' but 'speaking' can be compromised by mean assessors as well. Well, for citizenship I would appeal.

I'm shocked that keepmeinoz doesn't understand the rules of a PR and providing wrong info. How will he or she comprehend citizenship application rules. I think that's a positive outcome for some to introduce an English test. My partner became citizen ladt August.I'm still PR though I'm eligible since Feb 2016! My PR has no expiry date, applied sucessfully for an RRV in June 2016. I'm also not applying for citizenship as I would lose pension benefits of my home country, especially early retirement part of it.

Has your mum ever visited Australia? Did she like it? Deteriorating health as a reason alone is certainly not a good reason to consider a move to the other side of the world. Not to mention that she may has never been here before? Hard enough to get a parent visa anyway and might be too stressful for an elderly person with severe health issues. There are certainly nice retirement facilities in the area of the UK where your mum lives and she could enjoy her twilight years in a familiar place in case she would prefer that. In well looked after retirement villages changes are not too bad that her deteriorating health may come to a halt - regular and good nutrition, exercise classes, social interaction with other like minded residents, just to mention the advantages...

1 of the requirements to apply for citizenship: not have been absent out of Australia for 90 days in the year immediately before applying. So answer is no for citizenship. I would suggest to do this process step by step: first apply for PR as this is indispensable before I would even waste a thought about citizenship. Why bother about citizenship if your plans are to return to your home country anyway

There is no advantage for you that 1 sister is an Australian

PR will be cancelled in VEVO straight after the citizenship ceremony on the same day so in theory you don't have to wait 10 business days as it's all done electronically now. Maybe it's just a standard wording as sometimes there are mass ceremonies (in our case over 200 applicants the same day).

I doubt you will see parents ageing in only 14 months! I haven't seen my parents for nearly 5 years as my partner and me never went back as yet but are in the planning for next year (not UK but Europe). We had the in-laws here last year to mid Feb this year so could catch up with family onshore. My spouse and me are not keen to go to Europe but we will fly out for the first time in 2017 after more than 5 years in OZ to see my parents, brother, uncles, aunties, old friends...and of course travel to places we have never been to as just going back where we came it's not our intention and we only do so in order to see family.

The most important thing: did your daughter enjoy seeing her grandparents? What did your husband say to his parents? He's the son so he should speak up. There is certainly more to this story, some kind of underpinning issues. Not unusual as I thought I have 'in-laws from hell'...who invited themselves to stay with us for 7 weeks and only complained, whinged and nagged around. An invitation (maybe in writing?) to visit them is a no go. Why are they so uptight? Maybe because they are 'alone' and you're so far away. But hey, rather forget about it as it's not worth it in the end. They are elderly people and we should appreciate them as we still have parents and in-laws. Expectations are often too high. Just lower your expectations and enjoy that your partner still has parents. Remember all the people who have already lost their parents as they would rather have a little bit of a fight/trouble with them than visiting a gravesite.

No, I've used my computer this morning instead of my mobile phone

You nailed it! The Australian pension (I should rather say absence of any regulated Pension in the past) used to be completely different to the UK, German or other European version as mandatory Super was only introduced in the 1992 by the Keating Labor government. That's the reason why retirees from the UK or other European countries with mandatory pension schemes are far more better off financially (of course this applies to males in the first place as females often have less in these European countries as well due to raising a family and working part-time). Furthermore Australian pensioners - like my relatives who migrated to Australia 30-40 years ago - are staying in oversized houses (after the children moved out) because if sold and in case they don't purchase a new house equal that value of the former one all liquid assets fall under the Centrelink means test. The story unfolds in Sydney and everyone knows the ballooned prices there.

The nerves are raw with some users in this particular thread and I don't post in this section any more as some users take is personally and having a rant at me. It's beyond my intellectual level and I don't respond to any discriminatory statements against myself or my personal opinion as we all don't know each other. In the future I will avoid looking at this thread as some users snap at me as they are becoming emotionally overwhelmed. In the first instance this forum is here to help people and therefore I have suggested to the Team to delete some posts (including some I have made to give it a fair go).