connaust Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 " Intake of skilled migration putting pressure on Australian families, says Melbourne MP HIGH immigration intakes are fanning negative feelings about asylum seekers and damaging national unity, a Labor MP says. It came as new data reveal that Australia has one of the highest immigration rates in the world. Outspoken Melbourne MP Kelvin Thomson said the tolerance of Australians had been stretched to breaking point by the quadrupling of skilled migration over the past 15 years. ''(This) has generated competition for jobs and housing and put pressure on family living standards,'' Mr Thomson said...... From 2005-10, Australia's net migration was 11.1 people per 1000 population, compared with only 6.6 for Canada, which is a similar high migration country..... Australia's net annual migrant intake was 234,000 over the five-year period, but is expected to fall to 174,000 during 2010-15. This will mean a migration rate of 7.7 people per 1000 population, compared with 6.6 for Singapore, 5.6 for Canada, 3.1 for the US and 7.9 for Hong Kong.... But Committee for Melbourne CEO Andrew MacLeod said cutting skilled arrivals would put local jobs and economic growth at risk. ''Rather than going on such flights of fancy, we should be putting pressure on our politicians to invest in the infrastructure needed for a growing population,'' he said....." News Limited December 2011 More misinformed anti immigration propaganda from Australian media and politicians.... net overseas migration includes both returning Australian citizens and residents, plus international students on temporaray study visa of over one year.... skilled and permanent immigrants are just one component...... But do not let facts get in the way of a good rant against foreigners immigrants etc.... I would add, the statistical definition changed in 2006 to include the above via Net Overseas Migration being calculated via difference between arrivals and departures...... Australia needs more people with baisc mathematical and analytical skills.... Welcome to Australia :skeptical: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pintpot Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I kind of think we just have to take some of this stuff on the chin - we are coming to someone else's country after all. Australia is still pretty generous on the migration front. Sure there are lots of checks and the process is as frustrating as any bureaucracy, but the provision of PR visas to people with no prior connection or actual employment is quite rare, the ability to gain citizenship even more so. In that environment, it's inevitable you're going to get some resentment especially when housing and other household costs have gone up so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perthbum Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Oz was built with immigrants and they have a vast melting-pot of different nationalities from around the world, they built Australia...how can he come out wit that? even white Aussies are immigrants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest 47403 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 " Intake of skilled migration putting pressure on Australian families, says Melbourne MP HIGH immigration intakes are fanning negative feelings about asylum seekers and damaging national unity, a Labor MP says. It came as new data reveal that Australia has one of the highest immigration rates in the world. Outspoken Melbourne MP Kelvin Thomson said the tolerance of Australians had been stretched to breaking point by the quadrupling of skilled migration over the past 15 years. ''(This) has generated competition for jobs and housing and put pressure on family living standards,'' Mr Thomson said...... From 2005-10, Australia's net migration was 11.1 people per 1000 population, compared with only 6.6 for Canada, which is a similar high migration country..... Australia's net annual migrant intake was 234,000 over the five-year period, but is expected to fall to 174,000 during 2010-15. This will mean a migration rate of 7.7 people per 1000 population, compared with 6.6 for Singapore, 5.6 for Canada, 3.1 for the US and 7.9 for Hong Kong.... But Committee for Melbourne CEO Andrew MacLeod said cutting skilled arrivals would put local jobs and economic growth at risk. ''Rather than going on such flights of fancy, we should be putting pressure on our politicians to invest in the infrastructure needed for a growing population,'' he said....." News Limited December 2011 More misinformed anti immigration propaganda from Australian media and politicians.... net overseas migration includes both returning Australian citizens and residents, plus international students on temporaray study visa of over one year.... skilled and permanent immigrants are just one component...... But do not let facts get in the way of a good rant against foreigners immigrants etc.... I would add, the statistical definition changed in 2006 to include the above via Net Overseas Migration being calculated via difference between arrivals and departures...... Australia needs more people with baisc mathematical and analytical skills.... Welcome to Australia :skeptical: I think this guy needs to learn the difference between skilled migration which as a country Australia obviously needs, and asylum seekers/illegal immigrants which I'm guessing it doesn't but which country does! Oz was built with immigrants and they have a vast melting-pot of different nationalities from around the world, they built Australia...how can he come out wit that? even white Aussies are immigrants. Born and bred white Aussies are not immigrants no more than born and bred asian Aussies are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobj Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Seems so very odd...Australia is crying out for skilled workers and then goes and puts so many hurdles in their way. Cheers, Bobj. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petals Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Migration is not popular you only have to listen to talk back. However I believe its the lack of training for young Australians that gets up people's nose. Once there were large companies who took on lots of apprentices but that no longer happens, the companies pushed by the bottom line find it cheaper to import the skill. This is really the crux of the matter. We need to train our young people here otherwise we have a whole population of people who will never earn a good quid. Apprenticeships are the realm of private firms, one man bands who when they get into trouble can just get rid of the apprentice. There needs to be more certainty than that. I lay the blame at the government who sold off a lot of our instrumentality's who trained our young people. They may have been money pits but they were good money pits they did other things to make the country strong. Then again there are migrants the people want and migrants they do not want. Under the breath people do not want a non cohesive society they look at other countries where there is an imbalance and think we do not want that here. The pollies of course ear to the ground, twitter, facebook etc get the feeling of what the people feel. Why are the libs so popular its not money management, dig a bit deeper, they think there will be less migrants with them. Just to add it depends where people are in life too, if they have young children, not a worry, if they have teenagers starting to worry, once they leave school and cannot get a job or an apprenticeship or a job when they leave uni due to lack of experience, they are against migration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrussell Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Immigrants create more jobs than they take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connaust Posted December 22, 2011 Author Share Posted December 22, 2011 Fact is that depending upon how recent data is that many if not majority of Australian apprentices do not complete their training, and many change occupation later e.g. chefs/cooks become managers. Further, most Australians are very short term in outlook and do not understand that without immigration our ageing population will lead to more skill shortages and decreasing tax base to pay for pensions, healthcare etc. Labor were the instigators of the former "White Australia" policy and restrictions in recent years were due to opinion polls and pressure from union movement ot restrict trades based immigration. On the other hand while Howard was publicly demonising refugees, dog whistling etc. his government was quietly allowing high levels of immigration, and not investing in infrastructure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjez Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 I take it the economy is slowing slightly, unemployment is edging up - worries about Europe. It's an easy headline grabber. Expect to see more of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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