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  1. In my opinion we need more Australian born people if we need to protect the politicial/social identity and the economic integrity of Australia. Migrants simply can't have the same relationship with the country as someone who's born here. There will always be a sense of divided loyalties... the country of origin always continues to hold a special place in the heart. Migration can only be a short term solution to fill skills gaps... in the long term the government should look at encouraging a sustainable birth rate... but more than the government, its the people who need to realize whats good for their own bottomline. Thoughts?
  2. " Intake of skilled migration putting pressure on Australian families, says Melbourne MP HIGH immigration intakes are fanning negative feelings about asylum seekers and damaging national unity, a Labor MP says. It came as new data reveal that Australia has one of the highest immigration rates in the world. Outspoken Melbourne MP Kelvin Thomson said the tolerance of Australians had been stretched to breaking point by the quadrupling of skilled migration over the past 15 years. ''(This) has generated competition for jobs and housing and put pressure on family living standards,'' Mr Thomson said...... From 2005-10, Australia's net migration was 11.1 people per 1000 population, compared with only 6.6 for Canada, which is a similar high migration country..... Australia's net annual migrant intake was 234,000 over the five-year period, but is expected to fall to 174,000 during 2010-15. This will mean a migration rate of 7.7 people per 1000 population, compared with 6.6 for Singapore, 5.6 for Canada, 3.1 for the US and 7.9 for Hong Kong.... But Committee for Melbourne CEO Andrew MacLeod said cutting skilled arrivals would put local jobs and economic growth at risk. ''Rather than going on such flights of fancy, we should be putting pressure on our politicians to invest in the infrastructure needed for a growing population,'' he said....." News Limited December 2011 More misinformed anti immigration propaganda from Australian media and politicians.... net overseas migration includes both returning Australian citizens and residents, plus international students on temporaray study visa of over one year.... skilled and permanent immigrants are just one component...... But do not let facts get in the way of a good rant against foreigners immigrants etc.... I would add, the statistical definition changed in 2006 to include the above via Net Overseas Migration being calculated via difference between arrivals and departures...... Australia needs more people with baisc mathematical and analytical skills.... Welcome to Australia :skeptical:
  3. According to a report released by the Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS) on September 29, 2011, immigration is still the key factor in population growth despite a general decline in net migration. The ABS revealed in a statement on the same day that Australian's population "reached 22,546,300 people at the end of March 2011, growing by 312,400 people over the year." "This is down from the previous year where the population grew by 374,600 people, and is the lowest growth since the year ending March 2006 when an increase of 299,269 people was recorded," quoted from the statement. The statistics showed changes to Australia's population from the past 12 months to March 2011. With 167,000 people immigrating to Australia during the period, immigration accounts for 54 percent of the increase in Australian population growth. The figures indicate that immigration is still a key factor in population growth despite the fact that overall population growth rate has slowed to 1.4 percent. Although the current growth rate is slower than in the last two years, it is equal to the average population growth for the last thirty years. KPMG demographer Bernard Salt projected that Australian immigration numbers would stabilise over the coming year at a slightly higher level than the current growth rate.
  4. Afternoon, According to Eurostat which is a statistical branch of the EU Britains population is growing at more than twice the European average :shocked:, in 40 years time Britain will have the highest population on the continent overtaking both France and Germany, and considering the size of those two that in my opinion is quite worrying. Last year of all the 27 countries in the EU Britains population soared by 400,000 out of the 1.4m added across the union :unsure:. Immigration to Britain has obviously had a massive impact on those figures with one in every four babies being born to a mother who was born outside of our country, just for bringing this subject up i will probably be accused of being a raving racist :SLEEP: as i have before but i believe that this subject would be one of the reasons a lot of people choose to move abroad which seems completly two faced but again for most people on this site moving abroad and starting again is a lot harder than those moving to Britain so i do not believe you can really compare the two, however that is only my opinion. So do statistics like the above bother you and has it had any bearing on your decision to move?
  5. Population growth goes off the boil. The three-year trend of slowing population growth from the 2008 peak continued in 2010 as more of us died and net overseas migration dived..... ....Thus while various politicians were jumping on the anti-migration band wagon during last year’s election, we were already stepping back from a brief surge to a more normal growth rate.... .....The big swing factor in our population story, though, remains net overseas migration. As the one-off factors in 2009 wash out and the international student industry crumbles, NOM dived by 35 per cent to 171,000.....
  6. Interesting article clarifiying how population is defined: "A few facts would be useful in the migration debate. IF WE'RE going to have great debate about whether we want a Big Australia, people will need a much stronger grasp on the factors driving population growth and immigration than they've shown so far. This is the rationale for a useful booklet, Population and Immigration: Understanding the Numbers, issued by the Productivity Commission this week.... ..... But the government has recently more than halved its list of skilled occupations in short supply and tightened up on the overseas student category. Combine this with the high dollar and the troubles of Indian students in Melbourne and it seems likely the number of overseas students will now fall quite heavily. It's a safe bet net migration won't grow nearly as fast in the next few years.
  7. Makes an interesting read: ABC news: Population boom inescapable: report - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) Quoting - "strong population growth is "probably inescapable" and even the figure of 36 million is only achievable by factoring a significant reduction in migrant intake." Sydney Morning Herald: Population boom inevitable, PM told Quoting - "even if annual net migration was lowered to an unrealistically low 60,000 per annum, Australia's population would still reach 29 million by 2050."
  8. Population boom inevitable, PM told
  9. It's a bit wordy but looks at growth rates in population using mathematical models in respect to fertility,migration and an ageing population.It summarises some of the many opinions voiced in recent years. Research - Populate and Perish? Modelling Australia's Demographic Future For me the conclusion sums it up. It follows from this that any grand overarching plan or strategy designed to calibrate current public policy to future population will have shaky foundations. Australia’s demographic future can’t be planned for, but we can make existing institutions more flexible to better cope with whichever population scenario emerges. Because of the ‘momentum for growth’ in Australia’s current population, Australia’s population will grow. It is therefore prudent to ensure we have a flexible policy environment to create the right processes and institutions to deal with the challenges of population growth and ageing. There is no right or wrong population size or rate of population growth, but there are right and wrong policies for dealing with these challenges. This is where the real debate about population should be—it should be about housing, hospitals, roads, pensions, the natural environment—all the things we urgently need to plan for a growing and ageing Australia. The debate should not be about whether we should have a ‘Big Australia’ or a ‘Small Australia’ but about how we can make a growing Australia work and how we can make it a prosperous and liveable place for us all. The pollies have been using the migration hot potato rather than looking at the real issues that face Australia. No sh7t sherlock.
  10. Australia the Lucky Country without Meaningful Debate Lucky Country a land of myths. THE policy debate is dominated by some monster lies and old-fashioned bogeymen. IT is a cathartic experience announcing your looming retirement, as I did this month. Having spent 21 of my 44 years as a dreaded lobbyist for the tourism, transport, property and infrastructure sectors, I decided it was time to step off the stage for a while. Declaring your innings temporarily over brings with it a liberated perspective. This is lubricated by the experience the nation has been through in our federal election and its aftermath. I want now to reflect on some pressing issues facing the nation and tackle some of the myths that dominate economic and social public policy debate. ► We can’t afford a big Australia. Wrong. The most depressing, and dishonest, argument permeating politics is that Australia is unable to cope with population growth, and it’s one that has forged a coalition of the far-Left and far-Right. We are a smart nation, blessed with a magnificent natural and human capacity and, with investment in urban and regional infrastructure, we can sustain a bigger population. Young, migrant nations such as ours are growing or they are shrinking. There is no in-between status. Traffic congestion and social division are genuine considerations and we do need some limits on growth, but we cannot allow poor planning in Sydney and southeast Queensland, or bigotry, to dominate the debate……
  11. Property Shortages and Real Estate Myths Housing industry's missing persons reports pure fiction. MISSING: Authorities are seeking the public's help in locating 190,000 families who have mysteriously disappeared from Australia. REWARD: $60 billion, for any developer or builder who can find them. These are the 190,000 households that, according to the construction industry, are desperately seeking new homes but can't get them. I've been looking for them, but can't find them. I know many builders have been having the same problem. I'm beginning to think they don't exist. The Housing Industry Association keeps telling us we have a chronic housing shortage, with a shortfall of 190,000 homes........ .... If you're looking for a copy of this publication, you're likely to find it in libraries in the "fantasy" section, because the ABS tells us that the average first-home buyer in Australia borrows $292,000. The report that claims unsatisfied demand for 190,000 new homes should be found in the "science fiction" section, alongside books that depict time travel and interaction with aliens from worlds a thousand light years from earth...... ......The odd thing about this persistent complaint that we're not building enough houses is that the loudest whingers are the people whose job it is to build houses. There are large tracts of zoned residential land in our cities (owned by major developers) waiting for houses to be built on them. If we've got a 190,000 shortfall, why aren't they frantically building? If the HIA figures were true, we'd have tens of thousands of families living in tents or under bridges...... ......I've taken a look at city vacancy rates, expecting them to be zero everywhere. That would be a reasonable expectation, if supply had fallen so far behind demand. But, according to RP Data, all our cities have vacancies above 3 per cent, except Canberra and Adelaide..... ....We're talking true vacancies here, not the "lies, damned lies and statistics" published by the real estate institutes. Something doesn't add up here. If we really did have a chronic housing shortage, rents would be going through the roof. .....Seasoned property market analyst Michael Matusik (of Matusik Property Insights) says we are actually heading into oversupply. He says those who cry "undersupply" are miscalculating the impact of recent population growth. Much of the nation's population growth has come from overseas migrants, most of whom are "family reunion" migrants, students attending our universities or business people on temporary visas. ........When you factor these matters into the supply-demand equation, he says, we're actually over-building. This runs contrary to the incessant campaigning of the developer lobby, whose members have motives that prevent them from giving the public accurate information. Matusik says: "Disbelieve anyone whose sales pitch is based around how much the market is under-supplied." All of this is sober reading for property investors.
  12. Immigration and Multiculturalism Good, ‘Fortress Australia’ Bad ‘We can’t return to Fortress Australia’. AUSTRALIA would risk its future prosperity it if chose the isolationist path on immigration. The warning was made by former Victorian premier Steve Bracks (child of immigrants, Lebanese I think, but from the bush). In an impassioned speech in Melbourne last night, Mr Bracks urged Julia Gillard and Tony Abbott to “set the national tone” and recommit to multiculturalism. Giving the 2010 Brookes Oration for Deakin University, he said that just as immigrants had been pivotal to the nation’s postwar success, they remained vital for the coming century. “We need migrants,” he said. “We need them in our workforce to drive our economy into the 21st century. We need them to help us make the transition to a sustainable economy. It’s not a question of yes or no on migration.”
  13. ABC The Drum - Population sustainability and the Ponzi demography Worth a read ... Best regards.
  14. The politics of undercounting. THE nation is carrying about 800,000 more people than it had bargained for when Labor came to power in 2007. This is the gap between the modest official population projections that were publicly available at the time of the last election and the fertility and immigration booms for which no level of government was ready.... ....Our real problems begin here, with the almost comical inability of our institutions to correctly forecast the basics: how many maternity beds, childcare and school places, new houses and apartments, train, tram and bus services would be required to raise, educate, accommodate and transport the most vibrant developed nation on the planet. Opposition stoops to lies and excuses in race to the bottom on boatpeople. NEVER let what has actually been said get in the way of your argument. That appears to be opposition immigration spokesman Scott Morrison's new mantra after he was caught out denying the undeniable yesterday on the Ten Network's Meet the Press. Paul Bongiorno asked him: "(Tony Abbott) described (boat arrivals) as an invasion: isn't that playing on people's fears?" Morrison answered: "Tony did not say that; he said you were at risk of putting Australia in a situation where it is open." "He said peaceful invasion," Bongiorno responded.... Population surge linked to jobs growth. IF new Prime Minister Julia Gillard really wants to slow population growth, she will need to put the brakes on the economy first. Returning the budget to surplus immediately would work, as would encouraging her friends at the Reserve Bank to jack up interest rates. The government no longer has the tools to directly reduce or increase the migration rate. Leading ANU demographer Peter McDonald gets irritated by the way so many people see population growth as somehow independent of the economy. Both migration -- and, to a much greater extent than generally realised, fertility rates -- are products of economic conditions. Migration is a function of labour demand. It slumps following recessions and booms in the good times.....
  15. NEW arrivals to Australia could be funnelled into Queensland's regional cities as planners look at more creative ways to handle the nation's booming population. Migrants could be funnelled to Queensland towns under population plan | Courier Mail
  16. Leaders at odds on growth. The ACT must populate or stagnate, according to Chief Minister Jon Stanhope who has signalled his opposition to any attempt to cut skilled migration to Australia. Immigration policies expected to change as high-growth target goes. SUSTAINABLE Population Minister Tony Burke says the government will adjust immigration policies so populated regions are not stretched. But the policies would ensure skills shortages were filled. Playing politics on population. JULIA Gillard's rejection of Kevin Rudd's "Big Australia" goes dangerously close to cornering her into a low-growth economy. The momentum from the strongest population growth since the 1960s was one of the chief reasons Australia sailed through the global financial crisis. West desperate for workers, say business. WESTERN Australia's peak business body has warned Julia Gillard the state is desperate for workers and migration has to increase. WA Chamber of Commerce & Industry chief executive James Pearson said unlike parts of the eastern states, where there were issues of overcrowding and congestion, West Australian employers needed workers.
  17. Australian population and immigration growth slows Migrant cut slows population growth in Melbourne but crowded city swells further. MELBOURNE'S population hit four million as Victoria's growth continued to surge last year. But national population growth slowed marginally last year owing to lower immigration, according to a report yesterday from the Australian Bureau of Statistics.... ....Public concern over rampant growth and its effect on liveability led the Federal Government to cut migration by more than 20,000 places last year. A major national survey on social attitudes recently found that more than two-thirds of Australians believe the population is big enough. The ABS data reveal that net overseas migration fell by 24,000 to 277,700 last year. There were 295,700 births in Australia, a drop of almost 5000 compared with the year before... ...Australia now has 22.2 million people, up by 432,000 since 2008. The growth rate slowed to 2 per cent last year after peaking at 2.2 per cent in 2008. By early 2011 will have slowed even more.... then by mid 2011 the federal government will realise that immigration growth, i.e. numbers of permanent residents, not temporary as included in population such as large but decreasing numbers of overseas students, needs to increase as baby boomers start retiring en masse this year and tax base decreases while demand for government services such as health, pensions etc. increases... but then again, racists, anti immigrationists, panicked politicians, media, demographers etc. would not be able to run scare campaigns in the media... so while scare campaigns were active in 2009 about supposed run away population growth, the population growth rates had been slowing significantly.... PS Real estate industry would not be happy with the news either as their justifcation for increasing house prices has been rapid population growth....
  18. Teams to tackle migrant debate. THREE teams of experts with strongly opposing views on a Big Australia have been called in to help map out the issues around population growth. Former NSW premier Bob Carr will head a panel which will say the population is heading towards unsustainable levels. A business team chaired by Heather Ridout, of the Australia Industry Group, sees high growth as the key to prosperity. The third panel, to be headed by demographer Graeme Hugo, has no strong opinion on numbers but wants better planning. Population Minister Tony Burke yesterday said the three would draft an issues paper on population growth. The government has been trying to ease the concerns of Australians opposed to rapid population growth and immigration as they see resources stretched, and those who want more immigration to fill skills shortages. And I bet Bob Carr will be drawing upon the “research” of anti immigration group Centre for Population & Urban Research, informed by demographer Dr. Bob Birrell..... who had been advising DIAC.......
  19. People problem inflated. Politicians and the public are in danger of misplaced panic over population. It is a touch depressing, but unsurprising, that we are back to the worst of the population debate. Everyone says, with a note of policy virtue, that we need to thrash out this very important issue. But so often the discussion becomes a pretty negative one. This is especially so when we are on the cusp of an election and the opposition sees a window of opportunity. One woud have more empathy of those against population or immigration growth if they considered regional development, versus their own self interest in major cities….
  20. "The money line from Chris Evans this morning in announcing changes to the skilled migration program was that this was about “taking back control of our immigration program”. From Crikey, explains well, Labor terrified of being outdone by conservatives on dog whistling issues of migration, population etc. Obvious those responsible do not understand system well, and terrified of the electorate (read over 50s white Australia) ..... This a.m. Albury Wodonga newspaper, complaining not enough cooks....... Australians may start opening their minds more when domestic TAFE and University fees increase dramatically next year with the former doubling..... due to decreasing students from Asia ...... their investment properties are empty due to less immigrants to rent ..... and as industry is already complaining, skill shortages already apparent....
  21. :elvis:Developer predicts 55m Aussies, wants 100m | The Australian
  22. THE number of permanent and long-term migrants arriving in Australia has soared to more than 500,000 a year. Record numbers of migrants, temporary workers and overseas students are piling into the lucky country. This is not good news for those planning to migrate, gives more excuses to anti immigrationists, "white Australia" types, hair shirted environmentalists etc. to make it even more difficult, but data is still flawed.... At least now the writer has clarified what ABS defines as migrants as, i.e. includes temporary visitors..... but like in the UK various lobbies have used the inclusion of temporary residents in population figures to alarm people, and help prop up the property market i.e. suggests future growth..... Further, he probably does not understand that mere rumours of migration and student visa changes in 2008 caused a massive spike as many from Asia were instructed by migration and education agents to just get to Oz asap, and see if you can manage to stay..... Nor does it explain that many true migrants may have applied between 6 - 36 months ago.....but managed to arrive this year....? Applying the similar negative logic about overseas residents, Tourism Australia and state bodies should close down, plus the education sector should stop taking international students and forget about migrating? Like migration, past and present changes may take students up to 2-3 years to filter through system.....but many will be having visa extensions etc. rejected already....then even more in the new year...
  23. connaust

    Regional migration

    While the capital cities are struggling under the weight of increasing population, regional areas are crying out for more people - especially people with skills. Apologies, the link seems t be a podcast that has to be downloaded.... but this news typifies issues in Australia, city based people trying to dictate on migration as a political issue...., meanwhile the bush suffers.....
  24. Interesting: The Queensland population counter tipped 4,444,444 people at 4.44am :goofy: Unlucky for some: Queensland's population hits 4,444,444
  25. connaust

    Why Australia Needs Migration

    From Bernard Salt of KPMG, Australia’s preeminent demographer: THE time has come to set out the facts with regard to the issue of demographic gearing .This is the notion that from 2011 onwards more baby boomers will exit than Generation Ys will enter the workforce, thereby depleting the rate of growth in the Australian tax base. This is the primary and compelling argument behind the recent push for elevated levels of migration. Versus scare stories in media about population growth, environment, boat people, cultural issues, terrorists, moslems, English ability, employment etc. etc. pushed by a counterpart of Salt's called, Dr. Bob Birrell, who had been (maybe still is) an advisor to DIAC.....
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