cobbler Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Hi All, I have just had an email from my potential employer/sponsor 457. He has stated that the Australian Goverment sets the wage that an employer pays a worker on a 457 visa, if this is true then the figure he has told me is far to low for me to survive & not what I originally thought I would be earning:no:. I thought the goverment only states a minimum wage. Help please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jamie Smith Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 The Govt does indeed set the minimum wage for 457 and other visas, largely to try and prevent the import of dirt cheap labour. That said, some professions like hairdressing, hospitality, aged care tend to run quite low wages in the industry. And they complain they can't get good staff (without increasing prices). Methinks the easy business model is low priceand hence low wages, but the smart business model is better value ie additional benefits that don't have to cost much, like clean and tidy premises, flexible trading hours, courteous service. :realmad: Happy customers spend more and bring more people to the business. So wages can then go up. Suggest you check the average wage for your occupation via job portals and the 457 sponsorship report with wages by occupation by state from the DIAC web site. Then ask the employer how long the trial period on lower wages would last, and how long he expects you to work for these wages once you pass the trial. If the answer is forever, then that employer is just interested in low cost workers (low prices) rather than productivity (better value all around). Be moderate in your comments as it might be an industry issue of low wages, in which case you need to consider the total cost of moving and getting set up and if you can afford it, and think about how long you can last before a planned shift to other employment at a later date. Sometimes you have to bite the bullet as a means to an end, and other times you need to be aware of shonky employers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest17520 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Hi, have a read through this page on the DIAC website: Subclass 457 – Market Salary Rates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobbler Posted March 10, 2011 Author Share Posted March 10, 2011 Thanks, After reading your link it looks to me that the employer thinks he has to pay the base rate for a 457 visa @ $45,220 p/a . I feel that I will have to get back to him (employer) & explain to him that this is not enough but I don't want him to feel I am being a pain & tells me not to bother going over to them. How should I approch him?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobbler Posted March 10, 2011 Author Share Posted March 10, 2011 I have just had a email granting a eVISITOR visa for my stay in April which is planned for meetings etc, BUT should I email employer before I go OR should I wait until I meet the employer THEN talk about the wages matter ???? Please help because this is a make or break issue Thanks cobbler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joebloggs Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Thanks,After reading your link it looks to me that the employer thinks he has to pay the base rate for a 457 visa @ $45,220 p/a . I feel that I will have to get back to him (employer) & explain to him that this is not enough but I don't want him to feel I am being a pain & tells me not to bother going over to them. How should I approch him?????? Really you would be wanting more than $45K, do you reckon this employer has only budgeted for that figure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobbler Posted March 10, 2011 Author Share Posted March 10, 2011 The way I read his email this is what he pays his other 457 workers . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joebloggs Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 The way I read his email this is what he pays his other 457 workers . what will you be doing? and where will you be living and working? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobbler Posted March 10, 2011 Author Share Posted March 10, 2011 Hi Joebloggs, Shoemaker/repairer, living & working around Perth. Cheers cobbler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobbler Posted March 10, 2011 Author Share Posted March 10, 2011 bump please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steen1976 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 bump please! Not sure how much help anyone can give as who can say how he would react? Do you think you could live on that wage? I couldn't so I'd email him back and say that the wage he is offering is the minimum acceptable by DIAC but unfortunately it would not be enough for you to live on. You need to decide what your minimum acceptable wage would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobbler Posted March 11, 2011 Author Share Posted March 11, 2011 I have just had a email granting a eVISITOR visa for my stay in April which is planned for meetings etc, BUT should I email employer before I go OR should I wait until I meet the employer THEN talk about the wages matter ????Please help because this is a make or break issue Thanks cobbler I have not spoke to the employer about wages yet but I have had an email from him this morning saying that they have accommodation for me to stay in central Perth so I can have a good look around whilst I visit them for a month in April. Going back to my previous post should I talk to him about the money now or go to them, have a good look around, see if the work, life, area etc suits me then talk figures with him when I am there??:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joebloggs Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 I have not spoke to the employer about wages yet but I have had an email from him this morning saying that they have accommodation for me to stay in central Perth so I can have a good look around whilst I visit them for a month in April. Going back to my previous post should I talk to him about the money now or go to them, have a good look around, see if the work, life, area etc suits me then talk figures with him when I am there??:confused: I reckon you would need more than $45K for Perth, hit him up for more cash for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steen1976 Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 I have not spoke to the employer about wages yet but I have had an email from him this morning saying that they have accommodation for me to stay in central Perth so I can have a good look around whilst I visit them for a month in April. Going back to my previous post should I talk to him about the money now or go to them, have a good look around, see if the work, life, area etc suits me then talk figures with him when I am there??:confused: Personally I couldn't see the point in wasting any time and would want to get the money sorted out. If he doesn't increase it then you're not using up the time you have there and can get on with looking elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobbler Posted March 13, 2011 Author Share Posted March 13, 2011 Well today I have booked my flights to Perth for 3rd April for 5 weeks & we will discuss wages when I am there, so now its all systems go & I can't wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raul Senise Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Thanks,After reading your link it looks to me that the employer thinks he has to pay the base rate for a 457 visa @ $45,220 p/a . I feel that I will have to get back to him (employer) & explain to him that this is not enough but I don't want him to feel I am being a pain & tells me not to bother going over to them. How should I approch him?????? Not sure where you got the figure of $45,220 but this is an old Minimum Salary Level (MSL) which no longer applies. If a 457 application was lodged with a proposed salary for $45,220 it would result in a refusal. Currently the “Temporary Skilled Migration Income Threshold” is set at $47,480 but even a salary at this rate may not necessarily meet “Market Rate” requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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