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Guest Gollywobbler
HI Apples,

This is how the system works. DIAC was waiting for the number of the visas for the financial to reach. As u must have noticed that they have not mentioned any link to the news on capping of Pre-September applicants. And there is no display of number of visas for the particular class mentioned in this article. So, they are moving very carefully on capping set for the particular class.

 

Hey, VB

 

The user name is Bossfishy, not Bossy Fish, though I've made the identical mistake in one of my own posts!

 

Cheers

 

Gill

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Nationality: romanian

Date of application 25 August 2007

Trade/proffesion: law degree, skill assessment_community worker,

visa type: 138 skilled sponsored

Case officer : dec 2008

medical checks submitted: 20 December 2008

IELTS - submitted twice

Police checks- submitted

Visa: no visa , no money back yet

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Hi Bossfishy

 

I copied your post into this thread because this thread has become the "meeting point" for people who applied for visas prior to 1st September 2007.

 

On 8th February 2010, the Minister announced that he intended to Cap & Terminate all the un-finalised applications for offshore visas that were received by DIAC prior to 1st September 2007:

 

Migration reforms to deliver Australia's skills needs

 

To do this, the Minister is using the "Cap & Kill" power given to him by Section 39 of the Migration Act 1958. No other power currently exists to enable the Minister to do as he is trying to do in the cases of people like yourself.

 

I note that you are a General Electrician. Please could you tell me as follows:

 

1. How old are you at the moment, please?

 

2. Where do you live at the moment?

 

3. What formal qualifications do you currently hold?

 

4. If it is relevant, what was your score in the IELTS, please?

 

5. Have you been working as a General Electrician for at least 12 out of the last 24 months?

 

6. If you are eligible to apply again, under the much stricter rules that have come into force today, 1st July 2010, would you still be interested in moving to Australia?

 

7. Do you have any family members in Australia? If so, what relation are they to you, please?

 

8. I think you said on British Expats that you have applied for a subclass 136 visa? Please could you just either confirm that I'm right or tell me which visa you had applied for, please?

 

Finally, I am expecting a legal challenge in the Courts in Australia. You probably won't be the visa applicant who sues the Minister for Immigration in the Courts in Australia but I will be very surprised if nobody sues him.

 

Ever since the Minister first made his announcement, people have been asking Accredited Specialists in Immigration Law (the senior solicitors in this field) whether it is lawful for the Minister to carry out his threat? This group of solicitors (there are about 50 of them in total) have all said that they want to wait to see the letters that DIAC send to the affected applicants. Once the solicitors see the letters, they will analyse them closely to see (a) what DIAC have said; and (b) whether DIAC have made any legal mistakes with the letters.

 

I assume that you have received an e-mail from DIAC, telling you that they have used Section 39 in order to Cap & Terminate your visa application? Could you copy the text of whatever they have sent you and post it into a reply in this thread, please?

 

Many thanks :notworthy:

 

Gill

1. 48 in August applied when 44

2.UK

3. City & Guilds

4. N/A

5. 30 years

6. Yes with wind missing from sails

7. No

8. 136 perm res

 

Dear Terry,

 

Unfortunately we have been unable to proceed further with your application

as a result of the decision to 'Cap and Cease' pre-September 2007 cases

which remain unfinalized.

 

I note that your application has been ceased and advise that you will

receive notification of this as well as information concerning the refund

of your application fees in the near future.

 

Regards

 

xxxxxx xxxxxxx

Manager Team2

Program Delivery Branch

General Skilled Migration - Adelaide

Department of Immigration & Citizenship

 

Thanks Gill:cool:

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1. 48 in August applied when 44

2.UK

3. City & Guilds

4. N/A

5. 30 years

6. Yes with wind missing from sails

7. No

8. 136 perm res

 

Dear Terry,

 

Unfortunately we have been unable to proceed further with your application

as a result of the decision to 'Cap and Cease' pre-September 2007 cases

which remain unfinalized.

 

I note that your application has been ceased and advise that you will

receive notification of this as well as information concerning the refund

of your application fees in the near future.

 

Regards

 

xxxxxx xxxxxxx

Manager Team2

Program Delivery Branch

General Skilled Migration - Adelaide

Department of Immigration & Citizenship

 

Thanks Gill:cool:

 

Hi Bossfishy

 

I have edited your post to delete the Manager's name because he has not been stalking the seat of DIAC's HQ in Canberra so he has had no say in Canberra's decision to dump your visa application. He is just the footsoldier on the coalface who has the dreadful task of having to cope with the visa applicants such as yourself.

 

What the guy has said is admissible in evidence, though, so please keep hold of his e-mail.

 

I don't know whether admitting to someone that their application was killed off some time ago - possibly PRIOR to the Capping Instrument being signed on 24th June 2010 - is a lawful use of S39. It is plain that the letters that the lawyers are waiting to examine are not ready as yet and the machinery for making refunds is not fully in place as yet either.

 

I don't know, in short, whether or not the way that DIAC are going about this is lawful but I can ASSURE them that the lawyers on the outside are waiting to pounce on the Minister for the slightest mistake in the Minister's use of S39.

 

Are you British, Bossfishy? I wonder whether the real reason for dumping you - when General Electricians are on the new SOL - is so that the Minister can (he hopes) wriggle out of allegations that his decisions and his use of S39 are racially motivated? He can't possibly argue that somebody from the UK is unable to speak reasonable English, when a supposed inability with English is one of his main claims for justifying his decision to ditch pre-September 2007 applicants.....

 

It stinks.

 

I suspect that your only hope of emigrating to Australia now will be if you can persuade an Australian employer to sponsor you for PR, probably via an RSMS visa.

 

Please see this thread:

 

http://www.pomsinoz.com/forum/migration-issues/58791-rsms-nightmare.html

 

When Linda started the thread, her main concern was that she had gotten into the clutches of a notorious cowboy by way of an UNregistered migration agent. The cowboy in question has been around for years, is very well known and he specialises in stinging people like the Irvines.The cowboy went bust in April 2009 but that is a regular occurrence with his companies as well.

 

From your point of view though, Mr Irvine is a Plumber/gas fitter and the couple now have PR via their RSMS visa, despite the fact that they are quite a bit older than you. They live in Gympie in QLD. It is a small town which is about 2 hours north of where their son lives, closer to Brisbane. Gympie is in Regional Australia, which is why it is so important. The RSMS visa requires them to put up with living in Gympie for another year or two but after that they will be free to move to the centre of Brisbane or even Sydney is they so wish and Mr Irvine would be able to do whatever he likes for a living as well once the conditions come off his RSMS visa.

 

So there is a way to do this if a willing employer can be found. The new Prime Minister, Julia Gillard, has said that she realises that there is a tremendous shortage of skilled workers in the regional parts of Australia. From your own point of view it would be wrong to believe that it cannot be done, though it would be very difficult to find the magic employer who is desperate for some skilled help and is willing - and eligible - to back you for a visa for Australia. Mr Irvine proves that it is not impossible, though.

 

From your point of view it is important that you should understand Section 39 and the fact that the Minister is simply using it to slide out of an immediate problem for himself, not because there is necessarily any lawful justification for using Section 39 in the way that he is trying to use it.

 

Having understood why the present situation has arisen, it is also important that you should understand that there is another visa which would get you out of the problem, potentially:

 

Employer Sponsored Workers - Workers - Visas & Immigration

 

Employer Sponsored Migration Booklet - Australian Immigration

 

I've given you the main link to employer sponsored visas but if you drill down, you will find the rest of the information.

 

For the moment, my main question for you is to ask whether or not you are a British Citizen, please?

 

Many thanks

 

Gill

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Ahmburak

Serial Number---1

Location: Ankara, Turkey

 

Date of application: 23 - Aug. 2007

 

IELTS : R:7.5 L:6.5 W:6.5 S:6.5

 

Nationality: Turkish

 

Trade/profession: IT Manager

 

Visa type: 136bn

 

CSL, MODL or SOL: SOL

 

Medicals submitted:Feb 2008

 

Police check submitted: Feb 2008

 

Date CO assigned: Not assigned

 

Date visa granted:Not Yet (Probably never)

 

 

Rahul Patel

Serial Number----2

Date of application: 27 - Aug. 2007

 

Nationality: Indian

 

Trade/profession: Office Manager

 

Visa type: 496

 

CSL, MODL or SOL: SOL

 

Medicals submitted:Feb 2008

 

Police check submitted: Feb 2008

 

Date CO assigned: Not assigned

 

Date visa granted:Not Yet (Probably never)

 

warlie

Serial Number----3

Date of Application: 27-Aug-2007

 

Nationality: Filipino

 

Trade/Profession: Personnel Officer

 

Visa Type: 138

 

CSL, MODL or SOL:

 

Medicals submitted: Not yet

 

Police check submitted: Not yet

 

Date CO assigned: Not assigned

 

Date visa granted:Not Yet

 

roselyn

Serial Number----4

Date of application: 31 August 2007

 

Nationality: Filipino

 

Trade/profession: Accountant

 

Visa type: 136

 

CSL, MODL or SOL: MODL

 

Medicals submitted: not yet

 

Police check submitted:

 

Date CO assigned: not yet

 

Date visa granted: not yet

 

 

dasalcedo

Serial Number ----5

Date of application: 30 August 2007

 

IELTS: Listening: 5.5 Reading: 8.0 Writing: 5.5 Speaking: 6.5

 

Nationality: Colombian

 

Trade/profession: Architect

 

Visa type: 136 Skilled Independent.

 

CSL, MODL or SOL: MODL

 

Medicals submitted: Twice don't remember dates.

 

Police check submitted: Don't remember date.

 

Date CO assigned: No CO assigned.

 

Date visa granted: No visa granted so far.

 

JASPREET SINGH BAJWA

 

Serial Number --- 6

Date of application: 30 - Aug. 2007

 

IELTS score : 7.0, R 6.0, W 5.5, S 6.5 Overall 6.0

 

Nationality: Indian

 

Trade/profession: Public Relation Officer(2221-11)

 

Visa type: Designated Area Sponsored - Class UZ subclass 496

 

CSL, MODL or SOL: SOL

 

Medicals submitted:Twice first on 08-08,Second on 02-2010.

 

Police check submitted: Twice first on 09-08,Second on 02-2010.

 

Date CO assigned: 20 - 10 - 2008

 

Date visa granted:Not yet(waiting)

 

 

sc138

Serial Number --- 7

Date of application: 27 - Aug. 2007

 

Nationality: Indian

 

Trade/profession: Tool maker

 

Visa type: GSM family sponsered 138

 

CSL, MODL or SOL: MODL

 

Medicals submitted: 03/2009.

 

Police check submitted: 03/2009

 

Date CO assigned: 09- 02 - 2009

 

Date visa granted:Not yet(waiting)

 

andres96

 

Serial Number---8

Date of application: August 27 2007

 

Nationality: Colombian

 

IELTS: L: 6 R : 6.5 W : 5 S : 7

 

Trade/profession: IT

 

Visa type: 136

 

CSL, MODL or SOL: SOL

 

Medicals submitted: Not yet

 

Police check submitted: Not yet

 

Date CO assigned: Not yet

 

Date visa granted: .....

 

babboo

Serial Number---9

Date of Application: 27-Aug-2007

 

Nationality: Indian By Birth

 

IELTS : L 6.5, R 5.5, W 6, S 6

 

Trade/Profession: Education Officer

 

Visa Type: BQ 138

 

CSL, MODL or SOL:

 

Medicals submitted: Feb 2008

 

Police check submitted: Feb 2008

 

Date CO assigned: Not assigned

 

Date visa granted:

 

electrical guy(Changed to State Sponsorship

 

Serial Number---10

date of application :31 august 2007

 

nationality : Indian

 

trade : electrician 4311-11

 

ielts: s-7,l-6,r-6,w-5.5(av-6) minimum criteria was 5.5 each

 

visa type : bn 137

 

csl/sol :sol

 

co assigned :december2008

 

medical/pcc demanded : feb2k9

 

state sponsorship granted : feb/2010

 

visa : waiting

 

With thanks from handagalage aruna rangalal handa on {Embrace Australia}

Serial Number---11

 

Date of application:23-08-2007

 

Nationality:Sri Lankan

 

IELTS Score:5,5,5,5.5

 

Trade/profession: General Electricion (ASCO code 43 1111, new ANZSCO code 34 1111)

 

Visa type: Skilled Indipendent class BN. Sub Class 136

 

CSL, MODL or SOL: MODL, SOL

 

Medicals submitted: December 2008

 

Police check submitted: February 2009

 

Date CO assigned: December 2008

 

Date visa granted: ???????

 

No Regrets

Serial NUmber 12

 

Date of application: 27 - June. 2007

 

Nationality: Egyptian

 

Trade/profession: Retail pharmacist

 

Visa type: skilled independent 136

 

CSL, MODL or SOL: MODL also CSL

 

Date CO assigned: 07 - 2008

 

Medicals submitted: 09/2008.

 

Got married, Hubby added on 7/2009

 

Date visa granted:Not yet(waiting)

 

IELTS : 8 ( 9,9,7,7)

With thanks from Young jae of Embrace Australia.

 

Serial Number 13

 

Date of application: 26-08-2007

 

Nationality: S. Korea

 

IELTS Score: 5.5

 

Trade/profession: welding

 

Visa type: Skill Independent (Statesponsorship from WA ,November 2009)

 

CSL, MODL or SOL: MODL, SOL

 

Medicals submitted: March 2008

 

Police check submitted: March 2008

 

Date CO assigned: ?

 

Date visa granted: ?

 

Nomad2000

Serial Number 14

Date of application: 23 - Aug. 2007

 

Nationality: Ukrainian

 

Trade/profession: Systems Manager (2231-11)

 

Visa type: 136

 

CSL, MODL or SOL: no

 

Medicals submitted:Dec 2008.

 

Police check submitted: Dec 2008

 

Date CO assigned: ---

 

Date visa granted: ?

 

Apples

Serial Number - 15

Lodged the Application - August 22nd 2007

 

HR country applicant.: srilanka

 

Occupation :Analyst Programmer(2231-17)

 

NON CSL/NON MODL:SOL

 

Visa type: skilled independent visa subclass 136

 

IELTS : overall band 7

 

CO allocation –Jan 04th 2009

 

Job verification - Jan 9th 2009

 

CO Requested PCC,Medical,form 80

 

Visa grant : still waiting

 

With Congrats from Pixeldim from Migrateaustralia.com forum

 

Serial Number : 16

 

Lodged application : April 2007

 

Occupation : Hairdresser

 

Acknowledgment : August 2007

 

CO Assigned: October 2008

 

Medicals : January 2008

 

68Jose

Serial Number : 17

 

Date of application: 16 - August 2007

 

Nationality: Mexican

 

Trade/profession: Industrial Engineer

 

Visa type: skilled independent 136

 

CSL, MODL or SOL: SOL

 

Date CO assigned: not yet

 

Medicals submitted: not yet

 

Date visa granted:Not yet (waiting):confused:

 

IELTS : 7 ( 7.5,7.5,7.0,6.5)

 

Joana

 

Serial Number --18

Nationality: Romanian

 

Date of application 25 August 2007

 

Trade/proffesion: law degree, skill assessment_community worker,

 

visa type: 138 skilled sponsored

 

Case officer : dec 2008

 

medical checks submitted: 20 December 2008

 

IELTS - submitted twice

 

Police checks- submitted

 

Visa: no visa , no money back yet

 

Guys, I request everyone to add one more field to your Records...

 

Money Returned --- Yes/No?

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Guest Gollywobbler

Hi VB

 

The e-mails that Bossfishy and Roselyn have received are merely letters informiing them that their applications will be capped and ceased. They are not the letters via which DIAC formally terminate the visa application and offer the refund.

 

It sounds to me as if the formal end of the process is not ready to go ahead as yet. I think that staff at the ASPC have been placed in the appalling position whereby they cannot refuse to tell the truth if people ask them but they can't offer them anything formal - or any money - either.

 

Which is typical of the crass insensitivity of DIAC's most senior staff in Canberra, frankly. Not only are "People Our Business" completely deaf and blind to the people who are supposed to be their business, but the fat cats in Canberra leave it to their footsoldiers on the coalface in Adelaide to do their dirty work for them.

 

Cheers

 

Gill

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Dear Gill

I have visited this site since last week,I appreciate your time that used to answe the questions and help people.I am one of guys who lodged at DIAC pre september(27 Aug) but I have not receievd anything and my agent also haven t send me anything. I am 29, Petroleum Eng,Ielts 6.5 with 7 years experience in my field.Petroleum eng is in new SOL. I am wondering what the DIAC is doing? if they announce new SOL,it means that they need these people.and whats the poit to cease us which have submited 3 years ago and take fresh appilications.I realy appreciate if you have any idea in this regard. what we can do? are there lawyers who can support us in legal courts.DIAC behaviour makes no sens

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Dear Gill

I have visited this site since last week,I appreciate your time that used to answe the questions and help people.I am one of guys who lodged at DIAC pre september(27 Aug) but I have not receievd anything and my agent also haven t send me anything. I am 29, Petroleum Eng,Ielts 6.5 with 7 years experience in my field.Petroleum eng is in new SOL. I am wondering what the DIAC is doing? if they announce new SOL,it means that they need these people.and whats the poit to cease us which have submited 3 years ago and take fresh appilications.I realy appreciate if you have any idea in this regard. what we can do? are there lawyers who can support us in legal courts.DIAC behaviour makes no sens

 

Hi Amirpetrol

 

Welcome to Poms in Oz.

 

Before I go into a long explanation which might not be relevant to you, please could you be very skind and supply the following information about yourself?

 

Nationality:

Date of application:

Trade/profession:

visa type:

Case officer : medical checks submitted: 20 December 2008

IELTS scores:

Visa:

Fees Refunded:

 

If you could do this bit then I wil reply to you in more detail. I particularly need to know which visa subclass you have applied for, please, and Virtual Bajwa - who is running this thread - needs the remainder of the information for the records he is compiling, which he publishes on this thread.

 

Cheers

 

Gill

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Dear Gill

I have visited this site since last week,I appreciate your time that used to answe the questions and help people.I am one of guys who lodged at DIAC pre september(27 Aug) but I have not receievd anything and my agent also haven t send me anything. I am 29, Petroleum Eng,Ielts 6.5 with 7 years experience in my field.Petroleum eng is in new SOL. I am wondering what the DIAC is doing? if they announce new SOL,it means that they need these people.and whats the poit to cease us which have submited 3 years ago and take fresh appilications.I realy appreciate if you have any idea in this regard. what we can do? are there lawyers who can support us in legal courts.DIAC behaviour makes no sens

Hi Amir,

If I am not wrong , You have the following details...

 

Nationality: Iran

 

Date of application: 27 Aug 2007

 

Trade/profession: Petroleum Eng

 

visa type: ????????

 

Case officer : ?????

 

medical and PCC submitted:????

 

IELTS scores: 6.5

 

Visa: Not yet

 

Fees Refunded: Not yet

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PRE SEPTEMBER 2007 APPLICANTS

Ahmburak

Serial Number---1

Location: Ankara, Turkey

 

Date of application: 23 - Aug. 2007

 

IELTS : R:7.5 L:6.5 W:6.5 S:6.5

 

Nationality: Turkish

 

Trade/profession: IT Manager

 

Visa type: 136bn

 

CSL, MODL or SOL: SOL

 

Medicals submitted:Feb 2008

 

Police check submitted: Feb 2008

 

Date CO assigned: Not assigned

 

Date visa granted:Not Yet (Probably never)

 

 

Rahul Patel

Serial Number----2

Date of application: 27 - Aug. 2007

 

Nationality: Indian

 

Trade/profession: Office Manager

 

Visa type: 496

 

CSL, MODL or SOL: SOL

 

Medicals submitted:Feb 2008

 

Police check submitted: Feb 2008

 

Date CO assigned: Not assigned

 

Date visa granted:Not Yet (Probably never)

 

warlie

Serial Number----3

Date of Application: 27-Aug-2007

 

Nationality: Filipino

 

Trade/Profession: Personnel Officer

 

Visa Type: 138

 

CSL, MODL or SOL:

 

Medicals submitted: Not yet

 

Police check submitted: Not yet

 

Date CO assigned: Not assigned

 

Date visa granted:Not Yet

 

roselyn

Serial Number----4

Date of application: 31 August 2007

 

Nationality: Filipino

 

Trade/profession: Accountant

 

Visa type: 136

 

CSL, MODL or SOL: MODL

 

Medicals submitted: not yet

 

Police check submitted:

 

Date CO assigned: not yet

 

Date visa granted: not yet

 

 

dasalcedo

Serial Number ----5

Date of application: 30 August 2007

 

IELTS: Listening: 5.5 Reading: 8.0 Writing: 5.5 Speaking: 6.5

 

Nationality: Colombian

 

Trade/profession: Architect

 

Visa type: 136 Skilled Independent.

 

CSL, MODL or SOL: MODL

 

Medicals submitted: Twice don't remember dates.

 

Police check submitted: Don't remember date.

 

Date CO assigned: No CO assigned.

 

Date visa granted: No visa granted so far.

 

JASPREET SINGH BAJWA

 

Serial Number --- 6

Date of application: 30 - Aug. 2007

 

IELTS score : 7.0, R 6.0, W 5.5, S 6.5 Overall 6.0

 

Nationality: Indian

 

Trade/profession: Public Relation Officer(2221-11)

 

Visa type: Designated Area Sponsored - Class UZ subclass 496

 

CSL, MODL or SOL: SOL

 

Medicals submitted:Twice first on 08-08,Second on 02-2010.

 

Police check submitted: Twice first on 09-08,Second on 02-2010.

 

Date CO assigned: 20 - 10 - 2008

 

Date visa granted:Not yet(waiting)

 

 

sc138

Serial Number --- 7

Date of application: 27 - Aug. 2007

 

Nationality: Indian

 

Trade/profession: Tool maker

 

Visa type: GSM family sponsered 138

 

CSL, MODL or SOL: MODL

 

Medicals submitted: 03/2009.

 

Police check submitted: 03/2009

 

Date CO assigned: 09- 02 - 2009

 

Date visa granted:Not yet(waiting)

 

andres96

 

Serial Number---8

Date of application: August 27 2007

 

Nationality: Colombian

 

IELTS: L: 6 R : 6.5 W : 5 S : 7

 

Trade/profession: IT

 

Visa type: 136

 

CSL, MODL or SOL: SOL

 

Medicals submitted: Not yet

 

Police check submitted: Not yet

 

Date CO assigned: Not yet

 

Date visa granted: .....

 

babboo

Serial Number---9

Date of Application: 27-Aug-2007

 

Nationality: Indian By Birth

 

IELTS : L 6.5, R 5.5, W 6, S 6

 

Trade/Profession: Education Officer

 

Visa Type: BQ 138

 

CSL, MODL or SOL:

 

Medicals submitted: Feb 2008

 

Police check submitted: Feb 2008

 

Date CO assigned: Not assigned

 

Date visa granted:

 

electrical guy(Changed to State Sponsorship

 

Serial Number---10

date of application :31 august 2007

 

nationality : Indian

 

trade : electrician 4311-11

 

ielts: s-7,l-6,r-6,w-5.5(av-6) minimum criteria was 5.5 each

 

visa type : bn 137

 

csl/sol :sol

 

co assigned :december2008

 

medical/pcc demanded : feb2k9

 

state sponsorship granted : feb/2010

 

visa : waiting

 

With thanks from handagalage aruna rangalal handa on {Embrace Australia}

Serial Number---11

 

Date of application:23-08-2007

 

Nationality:Sri Lankan

 

IELTS Score:5,5,5,5.5

 

Trade/profession: General Electricion (ASCO code 43 1111, new ANZSCO code 34 1111)

 

Visa type: Skilled Indipendent class BN. Sub Class 136

 

CSL, MODL or SOL: MODL, SOL

 

Medicals submitted: December 2008

 

Police check submitted: February 2009

 

Date CO assigned: December 2008

 

Date visa granted: ???????

 

No Regrets

Serial NUmber 12

 

Date of application: 27 - June. 2007

 

Nationality: Egyptian

 

Trade/profession: Retail pharmacist

 

Visa type: skilled independent 136

 

CSL, MODL or SOL: MODL also CSL

 

Date CO assigned: 07 - 2008

 

Medicals submitted: 09/2008.

 

Got married, Hubby added on 7/2009

 

Date visa granted:Not yet(waiting)

 

IELTS : 8 ( 9,9,7,7)

With thanks from Young jae of Embrace Australia.

 

Serial Number 13

 

Date of application: 26-08-2007

 

Nationality: S. Korea

 

IELTS Score: 5.5

 

Trade/profession: welding

 

Visa type: Skill Independent (Statesponsorship from WA ,November 2009)

 

CSL, MODL or SOL: MODL, SOL

 

Medicals submitted: March 2008

 

Police check submitted: March 2008

 

Date CO assigned: ?

 

Date visa granted: ?

 

Nomad2000

Serial Number 14

Date of application: 23 - Aug. 2007

 

Nationality: Ukrainian

 

Trade/profession: Systems Manager (2231-11)

 

Visa type: 136

 

CSL, MODL or SOL: no

 

Medicals submitted:Dec 2008.

 

Police check submitted: Dec 2008

 

Date CO assigned: ---

 

Date visa granted: ?

 

Apples

Serial Number - 15

Lodged the Application - August 22nd 2007

 

HR country applicant.: srilanka

 

Occupation :Analyst Programmer(2231-17)

 

NON CSL/NON MODL:SOL

 

Visa type: skilled independent visa subclass 136

 

IELTS : overall band 7

 

CO allocation –Jan 04th 2009

 

Job verification - Jan 9th 2009

 

CO Requested PCC,Medical,form 80

 

Visa grant : still waiting

 

With Congrats from Pixeldim from Migrateaustralia.com forum

 

Serial Number : 16

 

Lodged application : April 2007

 

Occupation : Hairdresser

 

Acknowledgment : August 2007

 

CO Assigned: October 2008

 

Medicals : January 2008

 

68Jose

 

Serial Number : 17

 

Date of application: 16 - August 2007

 

Nationality: Mexican

 

Trade/profession: Industrial Engineer

 

Visa type: skilled independent 136

 

CSL, MODL or SOL: SOL

 

Date CO assigned: not yet

 

Medicals submitted: not yet

 

Date visa granted:Not yet (waiting):confused:

 

IELTS : 7 ( 7.5,7.5,7.0,6.5)

 

Joana

 

Serial Number --18

Nationality: Romanian

 

Date of application 25 August 2007

 

Trade/proffesion: law degree, skill assessment_community worker,

 

visa type: 138 skilled sponsored

 

Case officer : dec 2008

 

medical checks submitted: 20 December 2008

 

IELTS - submitted twice

 

Police checks- submitted

 

Visa: no visa , no money back yet

 

AmirPetrol

 

serial Number : 19

Nationality: Iran

 

Date of application: 27 Aug 2007

 

Trade/profession: Petroleum Eng

 

visa type: 136

 

Case officer : Not yet

 

Medical and PCC submitted:Not yet

 

IELTS scores: 6.5

 

Visa: Not yet

 

Fees Refunded: Not yet

 

With thanks from http://www.gettingdownunder.com/ Forum member gm66867

 

Serial Number : 20

Nationality: ???

 

Date of application: 31 Aug 2k7

Trade/profession:General Electrician

visa type: class bn136

Case officer : 2k8

Medical and PCC submitted:feb/2k9

IELTS scores: 6.00

Visa: Not yet

 

Fees Refunded: Not yet

 

NOTES :--> Victoria state sponsorship applied in jan/2k10,, got sponsorship and refereed form 1100 to diac --feb /2k10 still no response from diac

 

With thanks from http://www.gettingdownunder.com/ Forum memberoptional

 

Serial Number : 21

Nationality: ???

 

Date of application: Aug 2k7

Trade/profession: Non MODL/Non CSL

visa type: 138 family sponsor

Case officer : Nov 2k8

Medical and PCC submitted:Nov./2k8

IELTS scores: ??

Visa: Not yet

 

Fees Refunded: Not yet

 

With thanks from http://www.gettingdownunder.com/ Forum member Leo24kt

 

Serial Number : 22

Nationality: ???

 

Date of application: Date 27/08/2007

Trade/profession: Non MODL/Non CSL

visa type: 138 family sponsor

Case officer : No CO

Medical and PCC submitted:Nov./2k8

IELTS scores: ??

Visa: Not yet

 

Fees Refunded: Not yet

 

With thanks from http://www.gettingdownunder.com/ Forum member Knight

 

Serial Number : 23

Nationality: ???

 

Date of application: Date 27/08/2007

Trade/profession: Non MODL/Non CSL

visa type: BN 136

Case officer : No CO

Medical and PCC submitted: 1/07/2008

IELTS scores: ??

Visa: Not yet

 

Fees Refunded: Not yet

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Lalit

 

Serial Number : 24

Nationality: Indian

 

Date of application: Date 27/08/2007

 

Trade/profession: Non MODL/Non CSL

 

visa type: BN 136

 

Case officer : No CO

 

Medical and PCC submitted: Septmeber 2008

 

IELTS scores: 7

 

Visa: Not yet

 

Fees Refunded: Not yet

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PRE SEPTEMBER 2007 APPLICANTS

Ahmburak

Serial Number---1

Location: Ankara, Turkey

Date of application: 23 - Aug. 2007

IELTS : R:7.5 L:6.5 W:6.5 S:6.5

Nationality: Turkish

Trade/profession: IT Manager

Visa type: 136bn

CSL, MODL or SOL: SOL

Medicals submitted:Feb 2008

Police check submitted: Feb 2008

Date CO assigned: Not assigned

Date visa granted:Not Yet (Probably never)

______________________________________________________________________

Rahul Patel

Serial Number----2

Date of application: 27 - Aug. 2007

Nationality: Indian

Trade/profession: Office Manager

Visa type: 496

CSL, MODL or SOL: SOL

Medicals submitted:Feb 2008

Police check submitted: Feb 2008

Date CO assigned: Not assigned

Date visa granted:Not Yet (Probably never)

_____________________________________________________________________

warlie

Serial Number----3

Date of Application: 27-Aug-2007

Nationality: Filipino

Trade/Profession: Personnel Officer

Visa Type: 138

CSL, MODL or SOL:

Medicals submitted: Not yet

Police check submitted: Not yet

Date CO assigned: Not assigned

Date visa granted:Not Yet

______________________________________________________________________

roselyn

Serial Number----4

Date of application: 31 August 2007

Nationality: Filipino

Trade/profession: Accountant

Visa type: 136

CSL, MODL or SOL: MODL

Medicals submitted: not yet

Police check submitted:

Date CO assigned: not yet

Date visa granted: not yet

______________________________________________________________________

dasalcedo

Serial Number ----5

Date of application: 30 August 2007

IELTS: Listening: 5.5 Reading: 8.0 Writing: 5.5 Speaking: 6.5

Nationality: Colombian

Trade/profession: Architect

Visa type: 136 Skilled Independent.

CSL, MODL or SOL: MODL

Medicals submitted: Twice don't remember dates.

Police check submitted: Don't remember date.

Date CO assigned: No CO assigned.

Date visa granted: No visa granted so far.

_____________________________________________________________________

JASPREET SINGH BAJWA

Serial Number --- 6

Date of application: 30 - Aug. 2007

IELTS score : 7.0, R 6.0, W 5.5, S 6.5 Overall 6.0

Nationality: Indian

Trade/profession: Public Relation Officer(2221-11)

Visa type: Designated Area Sponsored - Class UZ subclass 496

CSL, MODL or SOL: SOL

Medicals submitted:Twice first on 08-08,Second on 02-2010.

Police check submitted: Twice first on 09-08,Second on 02-2010.

Date CO assigned: 20 - 10 - 2008

Date visa granted:Not yet(waiting)

______________________________________________________________________

sc138

Serial Number --- 7

Date of application: 27 - Aug. 2007

Nationality: Indian

Trade/profession: Tool maker

Visa type: GSM family sponsered 138

CSL, MODL or SOL: MODL

Medicals submitted: 03/2009.

Police check submitted: 03/2009

Date CO assigned: 09- 02 - 2009

Date visa granted:Not yet(waiting)

______________________________________________________________________

andres96

Serial Number---8

Date of application: August 27 2007

Nationality: Colombian

IELTS: L: 6 R : 6.5 W : 5 S : 7

Trade/profession: IT

Visa type: 136

CSL, MODL or SOL: SOL

Medicals submitted: Not yet

Police check submitted: Not yet

Date CO assigned: Not yet

Date visa granted: .....

_____________________________________________________________________

babboo

Serial Number---9

Date of Application: 27-Aug-2007

Nationality: Indian By Birth

IELTS : L 6.5, R 5.5, W 6, S 6

Trade/Profession: Education Officer

Visa Type: BQ 138

CSL, MODL or SOL:

Medicals submitted: Feb 2008

Police check submitted: Feb 2008

Date CO assigned: Not assigned

Date visa granted:

_____________________________________________________________________

electrical guy(Changed to State Sponsorship

Serial Number---10

Date of application :31 august 2007

Nationality : Indian

Trade : electrician 4311-11

IELTS: s-7,l-6,r-6,w-5.5(av-6) minimum criteria was 5.5 each

Visa type : bn 137

csl/sol :sol

co assigned :december2008

medical/pcc demanded : feb2k9

state sponsorship granted : feb/2010

visa : waiting

______________________________________________________________________

With thanks from handagalage aruna rangalal handa on {Embrace Australia}

Serial Number---11

Date of application:23-08-2007

Nationality:Sri Lankan

IELTS Score:5,5,5,5.5

Trade/profession: General Electricion (ASCO code 43 1111, new ANZSCO code 34 1111)

Visa type: Skilled Indipendent class BN. Sub Class 136

CSL, MODL or SOL: MODL, SOL

Medicals submitted: December 2008

Police check submitted: February 2009

Date CO assigned: December 2008

Date visa granted: ???????

_____________________________________________________________________

No Regrets

Serial NUmber 12

Date of application: 27 - June. 2007

Nationality: Egyptian

Trade/profession: Retail pharmacist

Visa type: skilled independent 136

CSL, MODL or SOL: MODL also CSL

Date CO assigned: 07 - 2008

Medicals submitted: 09/2008.

Got married, Hubby added on 7/2009

Date visa granted:Not yet(waiting)

IELTS : 8 ( 9,9,7,7)

_____________________________________________________________________

With thanks from Young jae of Embrace Australia.

Serial Number 13

Date of application: 26-08-2007

Nationality: S. Korea

IELTS Score: 5.5

Trade/profession: welding

Visa type: Skill Independent (Statesponsorship from WA ,November 2009)

CSL, MODL or SOL: MODL, SOL

Medicals submitted: March 2008

Police check submitted: March 2008

Date CO assigned: ?

Date visa granted: ?

_____________________________________________________________________

Nomad2000

Serial Number 14

Date of application: 23 - Aug. 2007

Nationality: Ukrainian

Trade/profession: Systems Manager (2231-11)

Visa type: 136

CSL, MODL or SOL: no

Medicals submitted:Dec 2008.

Police check submitted: Dec 2008

Date CO assigned: ---

Date visa granted: ?

______________________________________________________________________

Apples

Serial Number - 15

Lodged the Application - August 22nd 2007

HR country applicant.: srilanka

Occupation :Analyst Programmer(2231-17)

NON CSL/NON MODL:SOL

Visa type: skilled independent visa subclass 136

IELTS : overall band 7

CO allocation –Jan 04th 2009

Job verification - Jan 9th 2009

CO Requested PCC,Medical,form 80

Visa grant : still waiting

______________________________________________________________________

With Congrats from Pixeldim from Migrateaustralia.com forum

Serial Number : 16

Lodged application : April 2007

Occupation : Hairdresser

Acknowledgment : August 2007

CO Assigned: October 2008

Medicals : January 2008

_____________________________________________________________________

68Jose

Serial Number : 17

Date of application: 16 - August 2007

Nationality: Mexican

Trade/profession: Industrial Engineer

Visa type: skilled independent 136

CSL, MODL or SOL: SOL

Date CO assigned: not yet

Medicals submitted: not yet

Date visa granted:Not yet (waiting):confused:

IELTS : 7 ( 7.5,7.5,7.0,6.5)

_____________________________________________________________________

Joana

Serial Number --18

Nationality: Romanian

Date of application 25 August 2007

Trade/proffesion: law degree, skill assessment_community worker,

visa type: 138 skilled sponsored

Case officer : dec 2008

medical checks submitted: 20 December 2008

IELTS - submitted twice

Police checks- submitted

Visa: no visa , no money back yet

_____________________________________________________________________

AmirPetrol

Serial Number : 19

Nationality: Iran

Date of application: 27 Aug 2007

Trade/profession: Petroleum Eng

visa type: 136

Case officer : Not yet

Medical and PCC submitted:Not yet

IELTS scores: 6.5

Visa: Not yet

Fees Refunded: Not yet

_____________________________________________________________________

With thanks from Getting down under - Emigrate to Australia, Australian Immigration advice and Resources Forum member gm66867

Serial Number : 20

Nationality: ???

Date of application: 31 Aug 2k7

Trade/profession:General Electrician

visa type: class bn136

Case officer : 2k8

Medical and PCC submitted:feb/2k9

IELTS scores: 6.00

Visa: Not yet

Fees Refunded: Not yet

NOTES :--> Victoria state sponsorship applied in jan/2k10,, got sponsorship and refereed form 1100 to diac --feb /2k10 still no response from diac

______________________________________________________________________

With thanks from Getting down under - Emigrate to Australia, Australian Immigration advice and Resources Forum memberoptional

Serial Number : 21

Nationality: ???

Date of application: Aug 2k7

Trade/profession: Non MODL/Non CSL

visa type: 138 family sponsor

Case officer : Nov 2k8

Medical and PCC submitted:Nov./2k8

IELTS scores: ??

Visa: Not yet

Fees Refunded: Not yet

______________________________________________________________________

With thanks from Getting down under - Emigrate to Australia, Australian Immigration advice and Resources Forum member Leo24kt

Serial Number : 22

Nationality: ???

Date of application: Date 27/08/2007

Trade/profession: Non MODL/Non CSL

visa type: 138 family sponsor

Case officer : No CO

Medical and PCC submitted:Nov./2k8

IELTS scores: ??

Visa: Not yet

Fees Refunded: Not yet

_____________________________________________________________________

With thanks from Getting down under - Emigrate to Australia, Australian Immigration advice and Resources Forum member Knight

Serial Number : 23

Nationality: ???

Date of application: Date 27/08/2007

Trade/profession: Non MODL/Non CSL

visa type: BN 136

Case officer : No CO

Medical and PCC submitted: 1/07/2008

IELTS scores: ??

Visa: Not yet

Fees Refunded: Not yet

_____________________________________________________________________

Lalit

Serial Number : 24

Nationality: Indian

Date of application: Date 27/08/2007

Trade/profession: Non MODL/Non CSL

visa type: BN 136

Case officer : No CO

Medical and PCC submitted: Septmeber 2008

IELTS scores: 7

Visa: Not yet

Fees Refunded: Not yet

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Hi Amirpetrol

 

I am so sorry that I did not read VB's liists properly before replying to you yesterday evening (I'm in the UK.) I was tired and sleepy as well, which was no help.

 

The Minister and DIAC have both been killing themselves to avoid giving straight answers about what the Minister is really up to, but the gist seems to be as follows:-

 

Under the existing legislation, the Minister's only Cap & Kill power is the one that he was given under Section 39 of the Migration Act 1958. I understand that S39 was introduced as a result of an amendment to the Migration Act, many years after 1958. S39 requires the Minister to set a Cap for the relevant Class or subclass of visa. Once he has set the Cap, he is allowed to terminate the remainder of the applications made under the relevant subclass and to treat them as if they had never been made.

 

The significance of 1st September 2007 is that on that date, subclasses such as sc 136 were closed to new applicants and were replaced with the present sc 175, 176 and 475 visas instead. I know what the rules are for meeting the eligibility criteria for the current group of visas but I don't know what the rules were prior to 1st September 2007.

 

On 8th February 2010, the Minister suddenly announced that he intended to Cap & Kill all the applications for offshore visas that people applied for prior to 1st September 2007. The only power that he could use in order to do this is the existing Section 39. His announcement is here:

 

Migration reforms to deliver Australia's skills needs

 

Before that, in November 2009, the Minister was interviewed by Peter Mares (his first interview with Peter Mares.) The transcript of that interview is here:

 

Immigration Minister responds to backlog concerns - The National Interest - 13 November 2009

 

In that interview, the Minister said that there was a backlog of about 100,000 applications for offshore GSM (skilled independent) visas. He specifically said applications, not applicants.

 

More recently (26th May 2010, to be exact) the Minister introduced his new Cap & Kill Bill to Parliament. Under the new Bill, the Minister says that he wants to repeal S39 and to replace it with his new (hoped for) Cap & Kill powers, as proposed in the new Bill.

 

The Senate blocked the immediate progress of the new Bill. They have referred it to a Senate Committee for a Public Inquiry:

 

Parliament of Australia: Senate: Committees: Legal and Constitutional Affairs Committee: Migration Amendment (Visa Capping) Bill 2010 [Provisions]

 

Loads of people and organisations have made Submissions to the Public Inquiry:

 

Parliament of Australia: Senate: Committees: Legal and Constitutional Affairs Committee: Migration Amendment (Visa Capping) Bill 2010 [Provisions]: Submissions Received

 

Peter Mares promptly interviewed the Minister again on 4th June 2010:

 

New immigration powers cause concern - The National Interest - 4 June 2010

 

The Minister claimed in that interview that the reason he had decided to chop off all the pre-1st September 2007 applicants at the knees is because the pre-Sept 2007 visas required a lower standard of English than the current group of skilled visas and/or less work-experience was required then than is required now.

 

The MIA is the Migration Institute of Australia:

 

http://mia.org.au/

 

They have been running a series of roadshows around Australia, in conjunction with DIAC, so that the DIAC staff can tell the assembled Registered Migration Agents all about the latest changes etc.

 

In the early roadshows, the DIAC staff who were present claimed airily that "all" of the outstanding applications for GSM visas that were submitted prior to 1st September 2007 were "dodgy" applications. They were 'dodgy' because DIAC suspected that the visa applicants had been fibbing about their work experience and so on. The assembled RMAs roared, "Rubbish!" Many of the relevant visa applications were prepared and submitted by RMAs who know perfectly well that the applicant has not fibbed about anything.

 

DIAC changed tack. They told different members of their staff to attend the roadshows from then on. The new staff weren't any better than the first lot imho. The new lot told the RMAs that using S39 would involve causing "collateral damage."

 

I assume that "collateral damage" has been the particularly offensive (to my mind) term that has been bandied around the DIAC offices in memos, office meetings etc.

 

God knows what "collateral damage" is supposed to mean in the WHOLLY inappropriate circumstances in which DIAC's staff have been bandying the term around with such glee. As you know, it is a term used in connection with armed hostilities only - normally - where it usually means, "killing your own personnel and/or killing innocent civilians by mistake."

 

I think that DIAC's staff have been using the term to mean, "Killing visa applications from people where we didn't intend to kill the application but it has happened all the same." I suppose that the victims would be in a similar situation to innocent civilians.

 

Personally, if I were Andrew Metcalfe (the boss of DIAC) I would have told all the staff that if I heard the term "collateral damage" even once more, whether within the DIAC offices or outside of them, I would cause some "collateral damage" to any staff members caught using the term, by sacking the staff member concerned for gross misconduct, whether the staff member was very senior, very junior or in between.

 

It is quite disgusting to have the staff of "People Our Business" going around yapping about "collateral damage," imho. So if it were me, I'd have applied the boot really hard about this and the jackboot with which to boot offenders out of the door, frankly. Telling a visa applicant that she or he is "collateral damage" is totally unacceptable, totally irresponsible and in appallingly poor taste, in my view.

 

So I assume that you are an example of - and an innocent victim of - this "collateral damage."

 

I personally believe that the Minister's real aim is to reduce the size of the backlog and that he and his staff are obfuscating about the truth because admitting the truth is too unpalatable to their cowardly little selves.

 

Please sing out if you have any other questions.

 

Cheers

 

Gill

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Hi VB

 

I have had an e-mail from Bossfishy1

 

He lives in the UK and he is a native English speaker by birth and from birth.

 

He is a General Electrician, which is on the new SOL.

 

He has City & Guilds qualifications. General Electricians don't come with better qualifications than that. He has 30 years experience in his occupation.

 

Therefore there is nothing the matter with his English Language ability and there is nothing wrong with his qualifications or his work experience either - giving the lie to the Minister's claims about all this big-style if you ask me.

 

Cheers

 

Gill

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Hi Gill

I realy appreciate the time which you spent to answer my question in detail.but I really dont know that S39 gives the right to minister to withdraw application which submitted already? if they wanna control the migration,it is wisely to control from the time of decesion and it is pitty that they are going to use for as you said "innocent" applicant which were qualified at time of lodge.and even with changing the rules since 1 st July,I am qualified to try it one more time but it makes no sense to me.if they NEED our right now and we have application in line,whats the point to receive our money and lodge again.

since we have not received any news about people who were ceased,I hope they dont use this killing law which is not good for their reputation.

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Hi Gill

I realy appreciate the time which you spent to answer my question in detail.but I really dont know that S39 gives the right to minister to withdraw application which submitted already? if they wanna control the migration,it is wisely to control from the time of decesion and it is pitty that they are going to use for as you said "innocent" applicant which were qualified at time of lodge.and even with changing the rules since 1 st July,I am qualified to try it one more time but it makes no sense to me.if they NEED our right now and we have application in line,whats the point to receive our money and lodge again.

since we have not received any news about people who were ceased,I hope they dont use this killing law which is not good for their reputation.

 

Hi Amirpetrol

 

if they NEED our right now and we have application in line,whats the point to receive our money and lodge again.

 

You tell me and we'll both know, hun.

 

since we have not received any news about people who were ceased,I hope they dont use this killing law which is not good for their reputation.

 

We have already received news, hon, on this thread. Bossfishy1 and Roselyn have both been told that their applications have already been terminated and that only the formalities remain to be dealt with. The Minister announced his decision to do this on 8th February 2010. He didn't blinking well decide to do it on Sunday 7th Feb 2010, plainly, so the actual decision was not only made some time ago, but it was announced well before the formal Caps were applied. The legislative Instrument applying the Caps was not signed until 24th June 2010.

 

I hope they dont use this killing law which is not good for their reputation

 

It seems that they are already using it. I agree that it is absolutely terrible for Australia's reputation. Presumably the Minister does not mind that.

 

but I really dont know that S39 gives the right to minister to withdraw application which submitted already?

 

Dunno. Here is the text of S39:

39 Criterion limiting number of visas

 

(1) In spite of section 14 of the Legislative Instruments Act 2003, a

prescribed criterion for visas of a class, other than protection visas,

may be the criterion that the grant of the visa would not cause the

number of visas of that class granted in a particular financial year

to exceed whatever number is fixed by the Minister, by legislative

instrument, as the maximum number of such visas that may be

granted in that year (however the criterion is expressed).

 

(2) For the purposes of this Act, when a criterion allowed by

subsection (1) prevents the grant in a financial year of any more

visas of a particular class, any outstanding applications for the

grant in that year of visas of that class are taken not to have been

made.

 

I am sure there will be litigation over the present Minister's present use of S39. I don't know what the detailed legal arguments will be and I don't know what the Aussie courts would decide. My personal opinion is that its current use represents an abuse of the due process of Law, but I am not an Aussie trained lawyer, so all that I am doing is expressing my personal, lay-woman's opinion. I believe that the present Minister's reasons for using S39 are a flagrant abuse by him of the power vested in him by Parliament, myself.

 

I don't know which way it will go in the Courts in Australia. I think (hope) that it will turn into The Immigration Litigation Bungle, to go with the Homes Insulation Bungle and the Schools Improvement Bungle that the present Government has already made.

 

I'm sorry that I can't offer you better news, but I think you deserve to know the truth.

 

Hugs :hug:

 

Gill :cry:

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Hi Amirpetrol

 

 

You tell me and we'll both know, hun.

 

 

We have already received news, hon, on this thread. The Minister announced his decision to do this on 8th February 2010. He didn't blinking well decide to do it on Sunday 7th Feb 2010, plainly, so the actual decision was not only made some time ago, but it was announced well before the formal Caps were applied. The legislative Instrument applying the Caps was not signed until 24th June 2010.

 

 

It seems that they are already using it. I agree that it is absolutely terrible for Australia's reputation. Presumably the Minister does not mind that.

 

 

Dunno. Here is the text of S39:

 

I am sure there will be litigation over the present Minister's present use of S39. I don't know what the detailed legal arguments will be and I don't know what the Aussie courts would decide. My personal opinion is that its current use represents an abuse of the due process of Law, but I am not an Aussie trained lawyer, so all that I am doing is expressing my personal, lay-woman's opinion. I believe that the present Minister's reasons for using S39 are a flagrant abuse by him of the power vested in him by Parliament, myself.

 

I don't know which way it will go in the Courts in Australia. I think (hope) that it will turn into The Immigration Litigation Bungle, to go with the Homes Insulation Bungle and the Schools Improvement Bungle that the present Government has already made.

 

I'm sorry that I can't offer you better news, but I think you deserve to know the truth.

 

Hugs :hug:

 

Gill :cry:

Bossfishy1 and Roselyn have both been told that their applications have already been terminated and that only the formalities remain to be dealt with.

 

so if they are already started and there is no way to block them, then from my point of view its better now bill should be proceed further becoz we are not foul and fake player so have good possibility not to ceased after amendment .no other solution could be seemed now and we are on last turn :unsure:

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Hi VB

 

I have had an e-mail from Bossfishy1

 

He lives in the UK and he is a native English speaker by birth and from birth.

 

He is a General Electrician, which is on the new SOL.

 

He has City & Guilds qualifications. General Electricians don't come with better qualifications than that. He has 30 years experience in his occupation.

 

Therefore there is nothing the matter with his English Language ability and there is nothing wrong with his qualifications or his work experience either - giving the lie to the Minister's claims about all this big-style if you ask me.

 

Cheers

 

Gill

 

Pity on poor Bossfishy1 and Roselyn. In fact pity on every Pre - September applicant. I would go one step ahead and say that all this Capping and Ceasing is a big drama. Motive of this Cap and Cease is to kill all the Pre september application. Well guys, if an applicant like Bossfishy1 is capped, then I am afraid nobody will be speared from this. Well, may be next turn would be ours. Lot of things are talked and written about this unlawful act by Minister and submitted in front of parliament committee, but the ground reality is still same. Minister is slowly and slowly heading towards achieving his goal. What can we do nothing more than writing and writing more.

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Hello All,

I am not very active on the forum in terms of posting comments and or replies though I read what other people are saying and almost every day (reading of this forum is kind of my morning ritual, cup of coffee and PomsInOZ :biggrin:).

Below is the time line of our application and this morning we received the CAP and CEASE notification.

Date of application: 20 August 2007

Nationality: Bosnia and Herzegovina

Trade/profession: General electrician

Visa type: Class BQ, Subclass 138 Skilled – Au Sponsored Visa

CSL, MODL or SOL: used to be on CSL, removed, MODL

TRA: March 2007

IELTS: March 2007, overall band 6

Date CO assigned: November 2008

Medicals submitted: December 2008, and additional X-ray check requested and submitted 11 May 2009.

Police check submitted: YES, December 2008

Job verification: December 2008

Spouse IELTS: March 2009, overall band 8

June 2009 received letter that the application is no longer priority and will be reassessed in July 2010.

CAP and CEASE notification letter received on July 05, 2010

And this is the letter we received, and along with it we got repayment info form.

We are OK with it NOW since we kind of accepted the situation, but the true is that I feel nauseous. It is really hard to cope with the whole situation, and the whole feeling of how unfair we were treated. The good thing for us is that we are together and in good health :wubclub:.

Thank you all, keep up the good spirit and good luck to you all applicants .

Best,

Mirelle

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Pity on poor Bossfishy1 and Roselyn. In fact pity on every Pre - September applicant. I would go one step ahead and say that all this Capping and Ceasing is a big drama. Motive of this Cap and Cease is to kill all the Pre september application. Well guys, if an applicant like Bossfishy1 is capped, then I am afraid nobody will be speared from this. Well, may be next turn would be ours. Lot of things are talked and written about this unlawful act by Minister and submitted in front of parliament committee, but the ground reality is still same. Minister is slowly and slowly heading towards achieving his goal. What can we do nothing more than writing and writing more.

 

Hi virtual_bajwa,

 

 

The things is that they mismanaged/mishandled the immigration , They should have been calculate that how much applications and what category should be taken to fullfill Australian Market demand , But they didn't do that and now they are hammering on the applicants . You will see in up coming years ,People don't trust Because this is matter of good reputation , Honorable minister should have think about the reputation of the country that what will be impact of my decission in sense of reputation ?

I assure you here that I am 100% candidate and I will fight till the last end & won't back off , I don't want my money back I want my aim/object . For this purpose I gonna to hire an Australian solicitor to review my case , Why they delay illogically my case ?

 

Regards,

 

Lucky.

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PRE SEPTEMBER 2007 APPLICANTS

Ahmburak

Serial Number---1

Location: Ankara, Turkey

Date of application: 23 - Aug. 2007

IELTS : R:7.5 L:6.5 W:6.5 S:6.5

Nationality: Turkish

Trade/profession: IT Manager

Visa type: 136bn

CSL, MODL or SOL: SOL

Medicals submitted:Feb 2008

Police check submitted: Feb 2008

Date CO assigned: Not assigned

Date visa granted:Not Yet (Probably never)

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Rahul Patel

Serial Number----2

Date of application: 27 - Aug. 2007

Nationality: Indian

Trade/profession: Office Manager

Visa type: 496

CSL, MODL or SOL: SOL

Medicals submitted:Feb 2008

Police check submitted: Feb 2008

Date CO assigned: Not assigned

Date visa granted:Not Yet (Probably never)

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warlie

Serial Number----3

Date of Application: 27-Aug-2007

Nationality: Filipino

Trade/Profession: Personnel Officer

Visa Type: 138

CSL, MODL or SOL:

Medicals submitted: Not yet

Police check submitted: Not yet

Date CO assigned: Not assigned

Date visa granted:Not Yet

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roselyn

Serial Number----4

Date of application: 31 August 2007

Nationality: Filipino

Trade/profession: Accountant

Visa type: 136

CSL, MODL or SOL: MODL

Medicals submitted: not yet

Police check submitted:

Date CO assigned: not yet

Date visa granted: not yet

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dasalcedo

Serial Number ----5

Date of application: 30 August 2007

IELTS: Listening: 5.5 Reading: 8.0 Writing: 5.5 Speaking: 6.5

Nationality: Colombian

Trade/profession: Architect

Visa type: 136 Skilled Independent.

CSL, MODL or SOL: MODL

Medicals submitted: Twice don't remember dates.

Police check submitted: Don't remember date.

Date CO assigned: No CO assigned.

Date visa granted: No visa granted so far.

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JASPREET SINGH BAJWA

Serial Number --- 6

Date of application: 30 - Aug. 2007

IELTS score : 7.0, R 6.0, W 5.5, S 6.5 Overall 6.0

Nationality: Indian

Trade/profession: Public Relation Officer(2221-11)

Visa type: Designated Area Sponsored - Class UZ subclass 496

CSL, MODL or SOL: SOL

Medicals submitted:Twice first on 08-08,Second on 02-2010.

Police check submitted: Twice first on 09-08,Second on 02-2010.

Date CO assigned: 20 - 10 - 2008

Date visa granted:Not yet(waiting)

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sc138

Serial Number --- 7

Date of application: 27 - Aug. 2007

Nationality: Indian

Trade/profession: Tool maker

Visa type: GSM family sponsered 138

CSL, MODL or SOL: MODL

Medicals submitted: 03/2009.

Police check submitted: 03/2009

Date CO assigned: 09- 02 - 2009

Date visa granted:Not yet(waiting)

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andres96

Serial Number---8

Date of application: August 27 2007

Nationality: Colombian

IELTS: L: 6 R : 6.5 W : 5 S : 7

Trade/profession: IT

Visa type: 136

CSL, MODL or SOL: SOL

Medicals submitted: Not yet

Police check submitted: Not yet

Date CO assigned: Not yet

Date visa granted: .....

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babboo

Serial Number---9

Date of Application: 27-Aug-2007

Nationality: Indian By Birth

IELTS : L 6.5, R 5.5, W 6, S 6

Trade/Profession: Education Officer

Visa Type: BQ 138

CSL, MODL or SOL:

Medicals submitted: Feb 2008

Police check submitted: Feb 2008

Date CO assigned: Not assigned

Date visa granted:

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electrical guy(Changed to State Sponsorship

Serial Number---10

Date of application :31 august 2007

Nationality : Indian

Trade : electrician 4311-11

IELTS: s-7,l-6,r-6,w-5.5(av-6) minimum criteria was 5.5 each

Visa type : bn 137

csl/sol :sol

co assigned :december2008

medical/pcc demanded : feb2k9

state sponsorship granted : feb/2010

visa : waiting

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With thanks from handagalage aruna rangalal handa on {Embrace Australia}

Serial Number---11

Date of application:23-08-2007

Nationality:Sri Lankan

IELTS Score:5,5,5,5.5

Trade/profession: General Electricion (ASCO code 43 1111, new ANZSCO code 34 1111)

Visa type: Skilled Indipendent class BN. Sub Class 136

CSL, MODL or SOL: MODL, SOL

Medicals submitted: December 2008

Police check submitted: February 2009

Date CO assigned: December 2008

Date visa granted: ???????

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No Regrets

Serial NUmber 12

Date of application: 27 - June. 2007

Nationality: Egyptian

Trade/profession: Retail pharmacist

Visa type: skilled independent 136

CSL, MODL or SOL: MODL also CSL

Date CO assigned: 07 - 2008

Medicals submitted: 09/2008.

Got married, Hubby added on 7/2009

Date visa granted:Not yet(waiting)

IELTS : 8 ( 9,9,7,7)

Got the letter from department regarding money returned

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With thanks from Young jae of Embrace Australia.

Serial Number 13

Date of application: 26-08-2007

Nationality: S. Korea

IELTS Score: 5.5

Trade/profession: welding

Visa type: Skill Independent (Statesponsorship from WA ,November 2009)

CSL, MODL or SOL: MODL, SOL

Medicals submitted: March 2008

Police check submitted: March 2008

Date CO assigned: ?

Date visa granted: ?

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Nomad2000

Serial Number 14

Date of application: 23 - Aug. 2007

Nationality: Ukrainian

Trade/profession: Systems Manager (2231-11)

Visa type: 136

CSL, MODL or SOL: no

Medicals submitted:Dec 2008.

Police check submitted: Dec 2008

Date CO assigned: ---

Date visa granted: ?

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Apples

Serial Number - 15

Lodged the Application - August 22nd 2007

HR country applicant.: srilanka

Occupation :Analyst Programmer(2231-17)

NON CSL/NON MODL:SOL

Visa type: skilled independent visa subclass 136

IELTS : overall band 7

CO allocation –Jan 04th 2009

Job verification - Jan 9th 2009

CO Requested PCC,Medical,form 80

Visa grant : still waiting

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With Congrats from Pixeldim from Migrateaustralia.com forum

Serial Number : 16

Lodged application : April 2007

Occupation : Hairdresser

Acknowledgment : August 2007

CO Assigned: October 2008

Medicals : January 2008

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68Jose

Serial Number : 17

Date of application: 16 - August 2007

Nationality: Mexican

Trade/profession: Industrial Engineer

Visa type: skilled independent 136

CSL, MODL or SOL: SOL

Date CO assigned: not yet

Medicals submitted: not yet

Date visa granted:Not yet (waiting):confused:

IELTS : 7 ( 7.5,7.5,7.0,6.5)

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Joana

Serial Number --18

Nationality: Romanian

Date of application 25 August 2007

Trade/proffesion: law degree, skill assessment_community worker,

visa type: 138 skilled sponsored

Case officer : dec 2008

medical checks submitted: 20 December 2008

IELTS - submitted twice

Police checks- submitted

Visa: no visa , no money back yet

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AmirPetrol

Serial Number : 19

Nationality: Iran

Date of application: 27 Aug 2007

Trade/profession: Petroleum Eng

visa type: 136

Case officer : Not yet

Medical and PCC submitted:Not yet

IELTS scores: 6.5

Visa: Not yet

Fees Refunded: Not yet

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With thanks from Getting down under - Emigrate to Australia, Australian Immigration advice and Resources Forum member gm66867

Serial Number : 20

Nationality: ???

Date of application: 31 Aug 2k7

Trade/profession:General Electrician

visa type: class bn136

Case officer : 2k8

Medical and PCC submitted:feb/2k9

IELTS scores: 6.00

Visa: Not yet

Fees Refunded: Not yet

NOTES :--> Victoria state sponsorship applied in jan/2k10,, got sponsorship and refereed form 1100 to diac --feb /2k10 still no response from diac

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With thanks from Getting down under - Emigrate to Australia, Australian Immigration advice and Resources Forum memberoptional

Serial Number : 21

Nationality: ???

Date of application: Aug 2k7

Trade/profession: Non MODL/Non CSL

visa type: 138 family sponsor

Case officer : Nov 2k8

Medical and PCC submitted:Nov./2k8

IELTS scores: ??

Visa: Not yet

Fees Refunded: Not yet

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With thanks from Getting down under - Emigrate to Australia, Australian Immigration advice and Resources Forum member Leo24kt

Serial Number : 22

Nationality: ???

Date of application: Date 27/08/2007

Trade/profession: Non MODL/Non CSL

visa type: 138 family sponsor

Case officer : No CO

Medical and PCC submitted:Nov./2k8

IELTS scores: ??

Visa: Not yet

Fees Refunded: Not yet

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With thanks from Getting down under - Emigrate to Australia, Australian Immigration advice and Resources Forum member Knight

Serial Number : 23

Nationality: ???

Date of application: Date 27/08/2007

Trade/profession: Non MODL/Non CSL

visa type: BN 136

Case officer : No CO

Medical and PCC submitted: 1/07/2008

IELTS scores: ??

Visa: Not yet

Fees Refunded: Not yet

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Lalit

Serial Number : 24

Nationality: Indian

Date of application: Date 27/08/2007

Trade/profession: Non MODL/Non CSL

visa type: BN 136

Case officer : No CO

Medical and PCC submitted: Septmeber 2008

IELTS scores: 7

Visa: Not yet

Fees Refunded: Not yet

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Mirelle

Serial Number : 25

Date of application: 20 August 2007

Nationality: Bosnia and Herzegovina

Trade/profession: General electrician

Visa type: Class BQ, Subclass 138 Skilled – Au Sponsored Visa

CSL, MODL or SOL: used to be on CSL, removed, MODL

TRA: March 2007

IELTS: March 2007, overall band 6

Date CO assigned: November 2008

Medicals submitted: December 2008, and additional X-ray check requested and submitted 11 May 2009.

Police check submitted: YES, December 2008

Job verification: December 2008

Spouse IELTS: March 2009, overall band 8

Fees Refunded:Yes Got the letter from department.

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Lucky

Serial Number --26

Nationality: India

Date of application: 29.08.2007

Job Verification : July 2009

Trade/proffesion: General Electrician (MODL- New SOL)

visa type: ??????

Case officer : ???

medical checks submitted: Submitted on request

Police checks- Submitted on request

Visa: No visa ,

Money returned : ???

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Guest tvita
Hello All,

I am not very active on the forum in terms of posting comments and or replies though I read what other people are saying and almost every day (reading of this forum is kind of my morning ritual, cup of coffee and PomsInOZ :biggrin:).

Below is the time line of our application and this morning we received the CAP and CEASE notification.

Date of application: 20 August 2007

Nationality: Bosnia and Herzegovina

Trade/profession: General electrician

Visa type: Class BQ, Subclass 138 Skilled – Au Sponsored Visa

CSL, MODL or SOL: used to be on CSL, removed, MODL

TRA: March 2007

IELTS: March 2007, overall band 6

Date CO assigned: November 2008

Medicals submitted: December 2008, and additional X-ray check requested and submitted 11 May 2009.

Police check submitted: YES, December 2008

Job verification: December 2008

Spouse IELTS: March 2009, overall band 8

June 2009 received letter that the application is no longer priority and will be reassessed in July 2010.

CAP and CEASE notification letter received on July 05, 2010

 

And this is the letter we received, and along with it we got repayment info form.

 

We are OK with it NOW since we kind of accepted the situation, but the true is that I feel nauseous. It is really hard to cope with the whole situation, and the whole feeling of how unfair we were treated. The good thing for us is that we are together and in good health :wubclub:.

Thank you all, keep up the good spirit and good luck to you all applicants .

Best,

Mirelle

 

 

Hi Mirelle, my condolences. Thank you for posting the email. Just wondering if you had relatives or state sponsorship. I thought that the sponsored applicants were safe.

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Hi Mirelle, my condolences. Thank you for posting the email. Just wondering if you had relatives or state sponsorship. I thought that the sponsored applicants were safe.

Hi tvita,

138 BQ are the family sponsored applicants. I am really sad for mirelle as this visa applications was one the safest way to immigrate to Australia. I was thinking of applying this visa but at last minute decided to go ahead with 496. But I am afraid if 138 BQ can be ceased then no visa application is safe guys.

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Hello All,

I am not very active on the forum in terms of posting comments and or replies though I read what other people are saying and almost every day (reading of this forum is kind of my morning ritual, cup of coffee and PomsInOZ :biggrin:).

Below is the time line of our application and this morning we received the CAP and CEASE notification.

Date of application: 20 August 2007

Nationality: Bosnia and Herzegovina

Trade/profession: General electrician

Visa type: Class BQ, Subclass 138 Skilled – Au Sponsored Visa

CSL, MODL or SOL: used to be on CSL, removed, MODL

TRA: March 2007

IELTS: March 2007, overall band 6

Date CO assigned: November 2008

Medicals submitted: December 2008, and additional X-ray check requested and submitted 11 May 2009.

Police check submitted: YES, December 2008

Job verification: December 2008

Spouse IELTS: March 2009, overall band 8

June 2009 received letter that the application is no longer priority and will be reassessed in July 2010.

CAP and CEASE notification letter received on July 05, 2010

 

And this is the letter we received, and along with it we got repayment info form.

 

We are OK with it NOW since we kind of accepted the situation, but the true is that I feel nauseous. It is really hard to cope with the whole situation, and the whole feeling of how unfair we were treated. The good thing for us is that we are together and in good health :wubclub:.

Thank you all, keep up the good spirit and good luck to you all applicants .

Best,

Mirelle

 

 

Hi !!

Since now we have the first official letter from ASPC... Can please some migration agent and moderators suggest our future course of action... I am willing to sue this sinister minister 4 making fun of our lives...:nah:

 

I request Gill to please help us out and suggest and if possible contact a migration lawyer and suggest us what should be our course of action. Should we accept the refund ??? I am willing to cough out some more to sue this stupid minister.

 

PLEASE suggest us what to do next.... I have still not recieved any letter from ASPC what now this seems eminent....:arghh:

 

 

Cheers

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