Guest VickyMel Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 I have had a look and there doesn't appear to be anything on the website about the story, only references made to the changes. Andrea I think that it is common for this type of magazine to only show a few stories on their web site as a taster... - they want you to subscribe to see the whole lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz2008 Posted October 28, 2009 Author Share Posted October 28, 2009 I think that it is common for this type of magazine to only show a few stories on their web site as a taster... - they want you to subscribe to see the whole lot. If anyone has this article and wouldn't mind scanning it and emailing it to me I would be very grateful! :wubclub: Thanks Tasha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AndreanDaz Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 The agent has a point to make about CSL and priority processing. The agent is merely shoring up business by saying to the prospective client to put through an application as quickly as possible. Whether or not migration policies change again, is anyone's guess, but at this moment, apply as quickly as you can and hope and pray for the best. I agree with your comments in relation to the migration specialist, however, the opening paragraph in the article does end with "To make matters worse, the very same fate about to be described is one that will await many of you and could seriously hinder your emigration planning - proceed with caution. I would consider that to be a warning to many would-be migrants just starting out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WoodyXRomford Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 This should be a bit of hope for those of us that had CO's and are/were in the final stages!! On Sept 23rd all our docs read "Met" apart from my Oz police check (The police check got to DIAC on Sept 25th!). Our meds and UK PC's (meds we front-loaded back on 14th Oct 08 and PC's on Nov 14th 08) were expiring fast. Well yesterday, we casually logged on to the online status and found that my Oz police check has been changed to "Met" (21/10/09 date next to it!) AND both our xray doc dates which did read 16/09/09 now read 22/10/09! Therefore someone, somehow has looked at our case last week! Do we have a CO again?.....Who knows, but there is movement people for us category 5 masses. The fact that they have updated the date on the X-ray docs, means that we are really hoping that we have some sort of mini-extension on the validity of them now. (Can't find the fingers crossed emoticon but it would be sitting right here!) Everything is now met so where's our visa? Asked agent to contact DIAC to find out whats going on...awaiting reply. Good luck to all! Woody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WJK Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 This should be a bit of hope for those of us that had CO's and are/were in the final stages!! On Sept 23rd all our docs read "Met" apart from my Oz police check (The police check got to DIAC on Sept 25th!). Our meds and UK PC's (meds we front-loaded back on 14th Oct 08 and PC's on Nov 14th 08) were expiring fast. Well yesterday, we casually logged on to the online status and found that my Oz police check has been changed to "Met" (21/10/09 date next to it!) AND both our xray doc dates which did read 16/09/09 now read 22/10/09! Therefore someone, somehow has looked at our case last week! Do we have a CO again?.....Who knows, but there is movement people for us category 5 masses. The fact that they have updated the date on the X-ray docs, means that we are really hoping that we have some sort of mini-extension on the validity of them now. (Can't find the fingers crossed emoticon but it would be sitting right here!) Everything is now met so where's our visa? Asked agent to contact DIAC to find out whats going on...awaiting reply. Good luck to all! Woody Woody this seems normal practice now for all us category 5's update everything then leave for another three years ! Sorry to burst your bubble WJK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VickyMel Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Re my earlier post about the Radio programme tomorrow I think discussing the changes to migration on 23/09 http://www.pomsinoz.com/forum/migration-issues/70633-176-ss-non-csl-where-you-now-22.html#post607777 Jamie Smith has posted a link for those wanting to listen from outside Oz http://www.pomsinoz.com/forum/migration-issues/70325-what-would-you-say-minister-immigration-really-61.html#post608439 The web link is ABC Radio National - Help With Listening Online he also mentions in his post that the minister has been invited to the following weeks programme to reply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz2008 Posted October 29, 2009 Author Share Posted October 29, 2009 :GEEK: ABC News reports: Skills shortage looming, warns industry group The Australian Industry Group says the country faces a severe skills shortage coming out of the financial downturn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest floater Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 I hate to bear bad news but I had this email this morning Dear Mr ########, The department has considered the nominated occupation listed for this General Skilled Migration (GSM) application and determined that it is not one which is listed on the Critical Skills List (CSL). http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/pdf/critical-skills-list.pdf As a result, your application must now be considered in line with the priority processing arrangements set out in a new Ministerial Direction, effective 23 September 2009. Further to this there was a letter attached which basically says tough, don't expect a visa until 2012. Anybody else had anything? I'm still waiting to here from DIAC and the minister regarding my complaints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VickyMel Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 It was mentioned by George Lombard on another thread This is the link to Georges post http://www.pomsinoz.com/forum/migrat...tml#post608314 We have not got the email yet. I really think it would have been polite to send it out immediately after 23/09 not over a month later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WJK Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 I hate to bear bad news but I had this email this morning Dear Mr ########, The department has considered the nominated occupation listed for this General Skilled Migration (GSM) application and determined that it is not one which is listed on the Critical Skills List (CSL). http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/pdf/critical-skills-list.pdf As a result, your application must now be considered in line with the priority processing arrangements set out in a new Ministerial Direction, effective 23 September 2009. Further to this there was a letter attached which basically says tough, don't expect a visa until 2012. Anybody else had anything? I'm still waiting to here from DIAC and the minister regarding my complaints. Floater had a call today from my Agent They are sending me a letter received from DIAC The contents sound the same as yours must be a standard letter 3 years wait who knows what our circumstances will be by then I understand Australia need to do what they feel is right for their country and respect that however I think alot of us have been treated so unfairly :mad: WJK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jules2 Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 I hate to bear bad news but I had this email this morning Dear Mr ########, The department has considered the nominated occupation listed for this General Skilled Migration (GSM) application and determined that it is not one which is listed on the Critical Skills List (CSL). http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/pdf/critical-skills-list.pdf As a result, your application must now be considered in line with the priority processing arrangements set out in a new Ministerial Direction, effective 23 September 2009. Further to this there was a letter attached which basically says tough, don't expect a visa until 2012. Anybody else had anything? I'm still waiting to here from DIAC and the minister regarding my complaints. Hiya Just to let you know I received an email to this effect about 3 weeks ago!! Up to that point I'd thought I was fine and on the CSL... came as quite a shock! Jules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VickyMel Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Hiya Just to let you know I received an email to this effect about 3 weeks ago!! Up to that point I'd thought I was fine and on the CSL... came as quite a shock! Jules Maybe they send it to everyone - have you checked the CSL list - maybe you are still on it but they have just got you in the wrong pile? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basil Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 I don't have that letter.....does everyone else in cat 5 have it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shannene Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 i dont have the letter either, but im sure its coming:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz2008 Posted October 29, 2009 Author Share Posted October 29, 2009 I don't have the letter either, so I will get in touch with my agent and see if he has it on my behalf! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cartertucker Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 I dont want the letter!......:no: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cartertucker Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Just had another awful thought.... Alot of the CSL priority applicants are now going for State Sponsership, in order to jump up the queue a bit more.....:idea: But waiting for State Sponsership approval takes an age in itself......(as alot of us already know).....:frown: So seems this priority group could keep going & growing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlino Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Just had another awful thought.... Alot of the CSL priority applicants are now going for State Sponsership, in order to jump up the queue a bit more.....:idea: But waiting for State Sponsership approval takes an age in itself......(as alot of us already know).....:frown: So seems this priority group could keep going & growing! That could mean that COs will be idling while waiting for these applicants to come back with their SS approvals. Let's just hope (worth a positive thought), that the DIAC will use some common sense and finalise Group 5 cases while this happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlino Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 I don't have the letter either, so I will get in touch with my agent and see if he has it on my behalf! Please update us when you've got news, and I'd check on mine as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlino Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 I don't have that letter.....does everyone else in cat 5 have it? Group 5 with all docs met here, but no news from my side... perhaps just a matter of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz2008 Posted October 29, 2009 Author Share Posted October 29, 2009 Just had another awful thought.... Alot of the CSL priority applicants are now going for State Sponsership, in order to jump up the queue a bit more.....:idea: But waiting for State Sponsership approval takes an age in itself......(as alot of us already know).....:frown: So seems this priority group could keep going & growing! To be honest Kelly... why would they even bother changing over to get State Sponsor, looks like Category 1-4 is moving along nicely and knowing how long it takes to get SS they will probably get their visa whilst sitting in the queue waiting for SS anyway... so just a waste of time surely, especially if they can have less restrictions if they wait for their 175 visa instead of the 176! What do you reckon??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlino Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 I don't think any decent and obedient applicant can bear to receive such cold responses from the ASPC. These are tense and trying times my friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ScottishSteve Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 I don't think any decent and obedient applicant can bear to receive such cold responses from the ASPC. These are tense and trying times my friends. Trying times indeed!! :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VickyMel Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Just had another awful thought.... Alot of the CSL priority applicants are now going for State Sponsership, in order to jump up the queue a bit more..... But waiting for State Sponsership approval takes an age in itself......(as alot of us already know)..... So seems this priority group could keep going & growing! It should not make a difference ??? as being CSL whatever priority 2 or 4 they are ahead of us anyway...? That could mean that COs will be idling while waiting for these applicants to come back with their SS approvals. Let's just hope (worth a positive thought), that the DIAC will use some common sense and finalise Group 5 cases while this happens. I suppose if Oz is close to the quota for this year (no idea when the year is or how close DIAC is to reaching it) then they may hang off on the Priority 5+ to allow for the 1-4 that they estimate will come in later that year?? That worries me - as they do seem to be speeding through applications. To be honest Kelly... why would they even bother changing over to get State Sponsor, looks like Category 1-4 is moving along nicely and knowing how long it takes to get SS they will probably get their visa whilst sitting in the queue waiting for SS anyway... so just a waste of time surely, especially if they can have less restrictions if they wait for their 175 visa instead of the 176! What do you reckon??? I agree the way it looks now many will get CSL 4 through before their SS comes through depending on which state they apply for. I think if I was CSL I would go for the 175 now for those extra options on my visa. I wonder though if at the moment we are seeing a lot of COs because they are going through the CSL people only and many were not expecting it and have not front loaded. So there may be a time gap and then once the meds and police checks get back there will be a slow down as the COs then also have to relook at applications once these arrive. Ahhh the stupidity of my speculating :skeptical: - they will get to us when they are ready to (although there are some really negative thoughts screaming in my mind wondering about future changes) - but I can but wish and wonder :twitcy: Trying times indeed!! Isn't it just! I'm glad I am not on my own and I have PIO to help me through it ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chowy Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Rang DIAC last night to find out some answers to my medical and basically they couldn't tell me anything, also sent a email and basically got they reply this morning brushing me off. Looks like I can't ask for updates and I don't have a CO now, one will be assigned to me when my processing come around, end of 2012. So looks if you had a CO you may get another one when you do get looked at and they will have to go through it all again no doubt, crazy! I only asked because I got a email, some might know, that my meds were received and finalised then I got one a day ago saying meds received? so that is why I got in touch again, Here is the response from the email, Dear Sir/ Madam, The department has considered the nominated occupation listed for this General Skilled Migration (GSM) application and determined that it is not one which is listed on the Critical Skills List (CSL). http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/pdf/critical-skills-list.pdf As a result, your application must now be considered in line with the priority processing arrangements set out in a new Ministerial Direction, effective 23 September 2009. Should the applicant wish to advise the Department of a change of address, contact details or family composition, this information should be sent to adelaide.gsm.documents@immi.gov.au. Please note that this is an automated email service only. All other application enquiries must be made on-line using an enquiry form available at: General Skilled Migration Post-Lodgement Enquiry Form. Please find attached a letter concerning further processing of this GSM application. Yours sincerely, Helen Green And the PDF that came with it, 30 October 2009 Dear Sir/Madam General Skilled Migration (GSM) Priority Processing Arrangements The Minister for Immigration and Citizenship, Senator Chris Evans, has, in accordance with Section 499 of the Migration Act 1958, given a Direction setting processing priorities for certain skilled migration visa applications. This Direction applies from 23 September 2009 to all skilled migration applications, including those in the final stages of processing. The Direction gives priority to employer sponsored applicants and to applicants who have a nominated occupation which is in critical need, and are either sponsored by a State/Territory government or by a family member. Section 51 of the Migration Act 1958 contains powers by which the Minister can consider and finalise visa applications in an order of priority that the Minister considers appropriate. Officers of the Department of Immigration and Citizenship are bound to follow this Ministerial Direction which applies to every stage of visa processing. All General Skilled Migration (GSM) visas are subject to the processing priorities set out in Direction 42 Order of consideration – certain Skilled Migration visas, except for: Skilled – Recognised Graduate Subclass 476; Skilled – Designated Area – Sponsored Subclass 883; Skilled – Regional Subclass 887. These applications will continue to be processed in the order in which they were received by the Department. The Direction gives the following processing priorities (with highest priority listed first): applications from persons who are employer sponsored under the Employer Nomination Scheme and the Regional Sponsored Migration Scheme; applications from persons who are nominated by a State/Territory government and have nominated an occupation on the Critical Skills List (CSL); applications from persons who are sponsored by family and who have nominated an occupation on the CSL; applications from persons who are neither nominated nor sponsored but who have nominated an occupation on the CSL; applications from persons who are nominated by a State/Territory government and have not nominated an occupation on the CSL; (i) applications from persons who have nominated an occupation that is listed on the Migration Occupations in Demand List (MODL); and (ii) applications from persons who are sponsored by family and have not nominated an occupation on the CSL; all other applications are to be processed in the order in which they are received. The CSL is a list of occupations developed in response to the changing critical skills needs of Australia. The CSL can be found on the Department’s website at: http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/pdf/critical-skills-list.pdf This new Processing Priority Direction replaces the previous Processing Priority Direction which commenced on 1 January 2009. The processing priority arrangements change the order in which applications are processed and the length of time it will take to finalise applications. However, these changes have not affected the requirements to be satisfied for the grant of a visa. As the economic situation changes, the Government will review its measures to ensure that the program target and objectives are achieved. How are you affected? As your nominated occupation is not on the CSL and you have applied for an offshore GSM visa it is unlikely that your visa will be finalised before the end of 2012. Your ‘nominated occupation’ is the occupation you nominated at the time you lodged your application and can not be changed. The priority processing arrangements apply to all applications, irrespective of the date your application was lodged; whether health and character clearances have been provided or your application is in the final stages of processing or your nominated occupation was previously on the CSL. Please note that these application processing times are based on the current visa application rate, the Processing Priority Direction (in effect from 23 September 2009), and the availability of places in the Migration Program. You will be contacted when your visa application is re-allocated to a case officer. Please do not contact the Department to request your application be exempt from the Minister for Immigration and Citizenship’s Priority Processing Direction as case officers must adhere to the Minister’s Direction. Processing priorities are subject to change. Any changes to these priorities or processing times will be updated on the Department’s website. See: What's New? Recent Changes in General Skilled Migration Providing outstanding documents If you were previously requested to undergo further health and character checks but have not yet initiated these, you should not proceed until a further request is made by the Department. If you have already undergone your health and character checks, these should be forwarded to the Department. However, processing of your application will not be finalised until further notice. Unless you are advising the Department of a change in your personal circumstances (for example, changes to address, contact details or family composition) no further documentation should be provided by you until your case officer contacts you. Your visa status 2 For Offshore GSM applicants (subclasses 134, 136, 137, 138, 139, 175, 176, 475, 495 (offshore), and 496) who are in Australia, bridging visas are not applicable to your application. To remain lawfully in Australia you will need to ensure you continue to hold a visa (such as a Tourist or Student visa). Can I provide a new skills assessment? If you obtain a new skills assessment for an occupation included on the CSL, this can only be considered with a new application. You must ensure you meet the legislative criteria in place at the time of lodgement. Any new application will require a new Visa Application Charge (VAC). Can I withdraw my application and get a refund of my Visa Application Charge (VAC)? If you wish to withdraw your application, you must advise the department in writing. This advice can include any number of applicants but must be signed by each person aged 18 years and over. You may seek a refund of the VAC; however legislation provides only limited circumstances in which refunds may be given. A VAC is usually only refunded when an application is deemed unnecessary or was made as a result of a mistake by either the applicant or the Department. A refund will not be given in circumstances where an applicant considers a ‘mistake’ was made because they: changed their mind; do not satisfy a criterion for visa grant; or do not wish to proceed with their application because it will take longer to process than expected. Where can I get further information? The case officer previously assigned to your application will no longer be able to assist with enquiries about your application. Information on skilled visa processing is updated regularly and can be obtained by sending a blank email to: aspc.processing@immi.gov.au (for applications being processed in Adelaide) or gsmb.information@immi.gov.au (for applications being processed in Brisbane). This is an automated email service. Further advice and information concerning priority processing arrangements and other changes to General Skilled Migration visas is available on the Department’s website at: What's New? Recent Changes in General Skilled Migration Yours sincerely Helen Green General Skilled Migration GSM Adelaide Phone: +61 1300 364 613 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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