WilkoPerth Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Hi All! I'm planning on moving to Perth with my wife & two kids in November this year, What is the best way of finding somewhere to live? Should i get an Air BNB for a couple of months and hope we find somewhere to live more permanently or are there companies that find somewhere for you to rent before you go? I've only been to Perth for a few days whilst driving from Exmouth to Margaret river, so pretty clueless with areas/ schooling/ things to do, so any recommendations would be much appreciated! Thanks in Advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Manna Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 17 minutes ago, WilkoPerth said: Hi All! I'm planning on moving to Perth with my wife & two kids in November this year, What is the best way of finding somewhere to live? Should i get an Air BNB for a couple of months and hope we find somewhere to live more permanently or are there companies that find somewhere for you to rent before you go? I've only been to Perth for a few days whilst driving from Exmouth to Margaret river, so pretty clueless with areas/ schooling/ things to do, so any recommendations would be much appreciated! Thanks in Advance! Property in Perth in particular is very hard to come by. By way of example, a family member recently sold a house south of Perth for $50k over asking price, cash offer, within an hour of him suggesting on Facebook that he might be looking to list the property. No need to bother an estate agent. Sold. Rentals are equally hard to get. AirB&B a bit easier, but they're not cheap. I'm not living there ATM, so it may have eased a bit, but I'd be surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 6 hours ago, WilkoPerth said: What is the best way of finding somewhere to live? Most people get a holiday let or AirBnB for 4 to 6 weeks. There are a few relocation specialists in Perth. They're not cheap, but then neither is 6 weeks in a AirBnB! Here's a couple to get you started: https://www.journeeagency.com/ https://www.perthrs.com/ https://www.newintown.com.au/ Check out Homely for suburb reviews https://www.homely.com.au/find-places 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InnerVoice Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 (edited) 8 hours ago, Blue Manna said: Property in Perth in particular is very hard to come by. By way of example, a family member recently sold a house south of Perth for $50k over asking price, cash offer, within an hour of him suggesting on Facebook that he might be looking to list the property. No need to bother an estate agent. Sold. Rentals are equally hard to get. AirB&B a bit easier, but they're not cheap. I'm not living there ATM, so it may have eased a bit, but I'd be surprised. I'd be interested to know how that works in practice because the estate agents over here do a lot more than the ones in the UK, who simply advertise your house and arrange viewings. I recall that the one's here handle the contracts, and also hold the buyer's deposit until settlement. If you're completely dispensing with their services then how are you going to manage those aspects of the transaction? And as a further matter of interest, does anyone know anyone who's actually done that? Edited March 2 by InnerVoice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 5 minutes ago, InnerVoice said: I'd be interested to know how that works in practice because the estate agents over here do a lot more than the ones in the UK... I recall that the one's here handle the contracts, and also hold the buyer's deposit until settlement. If you're completely dispensing with their services then how are you going to manage those aspects of the transaction? And as a further matter of interest, does anyone know anyone who's actually done that? The real estate agent doesn't draw up the contracts, they just print copies to hand over. The contracts are drawn up by the seller's conveyancer or solicitor. If there's no real estate agent involved, the seller's conveyancer/solicitor also holds the deposit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drumbeat Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 1 hour ago, Marisawright said: The real estate agent doesn't draw up the contracts, they just print copies to hand over. The contracts are drawn up by the seller's conveyancer or solicitor. If there's no real estate agent involved, the seller's conveyancer/solicitor also holds the deposit. Actually in both WA and SA the real estate agent organises the offer to purchase and sends to the vender and purchaser to complete. These are then forwarded to the settlement agents/conveyancer who arranges the land transfer etc, they don't draw up another contract. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 8 minutes ago, Drumbeat said: Actually in both WA and SA the real estate agent organises the offer to purchase and sends to the vender and purchaser to complete. These are then forwarded to the settlement agents/conveyancer who arranges the land transfer etc, they don't draw up another contract. Interesting. There isn't 'another contract' in NSW either. The seller has to appoint their conveyancer/solicitor to draw up the contract beforehand and that's the one the agent issues to people who want to view it before making an offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InnerVoice Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 21 hours ago, Marisawright said: The real estate agent doesn't draw up the contracts, they just print copies to hand over. The contracts are drawn up by the seller's conveyancer or solicitor. If there's no real estate agent involved, the seller's conveyancer/solicitor also holds the deposit. When we bought our current house the contract came directly from the estate agent, and that was before we'd contacted a solicitor to handle our end of the transaction. It was all done electronic actually, I just had to press a button to buy the house! 20 hours ago, Drumbeat said: Actually in both WA and SA the real estate agent organises the offer to purchase and sends to the vender and purchaser to complete. These are then forwarded to the settlement agents/conveyancer who arranges the land transfer etc, they don't draw up another contract. I think that's how it works in QLD too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammygirl Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 20 hours ago, Drumbeat said: Actually in both WA and SA the real estate agent organises the offer to purchase and sends to the vender and purchaser to complete. These are then forwarded to the settlement agents/conveyancer who arranges the land transfer etc, they don't draw up another contract. Yes but people still use a conveyancer to check over the contract and do due diligence with searches etc. you can bet an estate agent won’t suggest making a contract subject to survey results, as they are working for the seller not the buyer. You don’t need an agent to buy and sell if you use a conveyancer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drumbeat Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 57 minutes ago, rammygirl said: Yes but people still use a conveyancer to check over the contract and do due diligence with searches etc. you can bet an estate agent won’t suggest making a contract subject to survey results, as they are working for the seller not the buyer. You don’t need an agent to buy and sell if you use a conveyancer. Yes, I'm aware of that. We have always added the condition of subject to building inspection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammygirl Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 You would be surprised how few people do a building survey here. It seems lenders do not demand it like they do in UK. We were actually discouraged from doing so by the agent. The property turned out to have a defect we were not prepared to accept as they would not budge on price. we pulled out but they refused to return the deposit until we had a solicitor tell them they had to because of the clause we added. They had never had a survey and didn’t understand at all why anyone would! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 2 hours ago, InnerVoice said: When we bought our current house the contract came directly from the estate agent, and that was before we'd contacted a solicitor to handle our end of the transaction Yes, because you're the buyer, not the seller. It's up to the seller to provide the contract. That's why I'm surprised the agent draws it up in WA/SA, because surely the seller should be getting legal advice (from their conveyancer/solicitor) as to what to include in the contract, so doesn't it make more sense for that person to do the whole thing (which they do in NSW)? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InnerVoice Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 7 hours ago, Marisawright said: Yes, because you're the buyer, not the seller. It's up to the seller to provide the contract. That's why I'm surprised the agent draws it up in WA/SA, because surely the seller should be getting legal advice (from their conveyancer/solicitor) as to what to include in the contract, so doesn't it make more sense for that person to do the whole thing (which they do in NSW)? Oh right, so maybe the seller's conveyancer/solicitor drew up the contract and then passed in on to the real estate agent. I've never sold a house in Australia, so that's good to know. I recall there were also a couple of clauses in which I could withdraw from the contract, and one was the outcome of the pest inspection. In QLD it's pretty much a no-brainer to get a PI done - termites can gobble through your house in no time at all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 (edited) 2 hours ago, InnerVoice said: Oh right, so maybe the seller's conveyancer/solicitor drew up the contract and then passed in on to the real estate agent. I ended up Googling it and it would appear that the contract can be drawn up by a conveyancer OR a solicitor OR a licensed real estate agent, in all states. I've bought and sold several properties in NSW and had never come across that. Personally I don't think I'd trust an agent -- it is a legal document after all, and you don't want to end up having to argue the toss with the buyer's solicitor over what is or isn't included, after the sale has been agreed. But maybe that's just over-cautious me. Edited March 3 by Marisawright 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Manna Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 (edited) On 02/03/2024 at 00:48, InnerVoice said: I'd be interested to know how that works in practice because the estate agents over here do a lot more than the ones in the UK, who simply advertise your house and arrange viewings. I recall that the one's here handle the contracts, and also hold the buyer's deposit until settlement. If you're completely dispensing with their services then how are you going to manage those aspects of the transaction? And as a further matter of interest, does anyone know anyone who's actually done that? Family member is a settlement agent, so that's all taken care of. But I guess it's probably not that simple for most people. Family member also drew up the contract. They're not that complicated in most cases. Edited March 3 by Blue Manna 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InnerVoice Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 On 02/03/2024 at 02:24, WilkoPerth said: Hi All! I'm planning on moving to Perth with my wife & two kids in November this year, What is the best way of finding somewhere to live? Should i get an Air BNB for a couple of months and hope we find somewhere to live more permanently or are there companies that find somewhere for you to rent before you go? I've only been to Perth for a few days whilst driving from Exmouth to Margaret river, so pretty clueless with areas/ schooling/ things to do, so any recommendations would be much appreciated! Thanks in Advance! Sorry, a bit rude of me not to answer the OP's questions, and didn't intend to hijack the thread - but yes, I'd do AirBnB for a couple of months and try and rent somewhere from there. Most places will be listed on the Domain or RealEstate.com websites (or both), but it'd be worth joining relevant Facebook groups too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Manna Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 On 01/03/2024 at 16:24, WilkoPerth said: Hi All! I'm planning on moving to Perth with my wife & two kids in November this year, What is the best way of finding somewhere to live? Should i get an Air BNB for a couple of months and hope we find somewhere to live more permanently or are there companies that find somewhere for you to rent before you go? I've only been to Perth for a few days whilst driving from Exmouth to Margaret river, so pretty clueless with areas/ schooling/ things to do, so any recommendations would be much appreciated! Thanks in Advance! Do you have any ideas of where you would like to live in Perth? It's a small city, (Manchester sized?) but it's a big city in area and it takes a long time to get from some places to others if you aren't taking the train or the freeways and highways. Will you even be in Perth? There are country regions, and the south west is growing rapidly. What do you and your partner do? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilkoPerth Posted March 4 Author Share Posted March 4 55 minutes ago, Blue Manna said: Do you have any ideas of where you would like to live in Perth? It's a small city, (Manchester sized?) but it's a big city in area and it takes a long time to get from some places to others if you aren't taking the train or the freeways and highways. Will you even be in Perth? There are country regions, and the south west is growing rapidly. What do you and your partner do? yes looking at northern suburbs of Perth but also love the south west as well. my Wife is admin/ EA/ PA kind of work and I work for a Melbourne HQ company so I'll be homebased. It's really about making sure the kids settle in well, it's safe & there's enough to do at the weekend etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilkoPerth Posted March 4 Author Share Posted March 4 On 01/03/2024 at 23:03, Marisawright said: Most people get a holiday let or AirBnB for 4 to 6 weeks. There are a few relocation specialists in Perth. They're not cheap, but then neither is 6 weeks in a AirBnB! Here's a couple to get you started: https://www.journeeagency.com/ https://www.perthrs.com/ https://www.newintown.com.au/ Check out Homely for suburb reviews https://www.homely.com.au/find-places This is awesome thank you! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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