virajhu Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 16 hours ago, Tinda said: 187 refusal 30-8-18 aat lodged 13-9-18 no news Did you enquired or complained through the provided channel, because you went now over the provided processing days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virajhu Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 (edited) Who else is waiting over 32 months? can you please provide details, I am preparing a statistics report to send to AAT complains department. Edited March 23, 2021 by virajhu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinda Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 57 minutes ago, virajhu said: Did you enquired or complained through the provided channel, because you went now over the provided processing days. No, I haven’t complained, its 31st month running its around 920 days. I think there are few members in this forum who waited around 31 or 32 months I hope we are not far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sukhwinder singh bhangu Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 I m waiting from 34 months in Victoria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinda Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 23 minutes ago, sukhwinder singh bhangu said: I m waiting from 34 months in Victoria Hi @Sukhwinder according to your previous post you said you lodge appeal on 19th July 2018 so i think its comes to 32 months and I think Aat request documents already from you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virajhu Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Tinda said: No, I haven’t complained, its 31st month running its around 920 days. I think there are few members in this forum who waited around 31 or 32 months I hope we are not far So it means there are not many in this forum, those have gone over the 937 days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sukhwinder singh bhangu Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Tinda said: Hi @Sukhwinder according to your previous post you said you lodge appeal on 19th July 2018 so i think its comes to 32 months and I think Aat request documents already from you? Yes we sent the documents again 18 February 2021, i m still waiting about decisions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinda Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 43 minutes ago, virajhu said: So it means there are not many in this forum, those have gone over the 937 days? Well, I don’t know I haven’t seen any, I’m only trying to say that there are few members who waited around this time length to hear from tribunal so hope for the best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaler Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 On 19/03/2021 at 13:51, virajhu said: Qld, ICT Support Engineer Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S2020 Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 Hi All, I have a quick question. Does the number of hours you are working will impact the decision of your case. another question is once visa been granted through AAT, do we still need to work for the same employer for 2 more years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S2020 Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Has your number of hours been impacted since covid kindly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelderGuy5 Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 On 05/04/2021 at 08:31, S2020 said: Hi All, I have a quick question. Does the number of hours you are working will impact the decision of your case. another question is once visa been granted through AAT, do we still need to work for the same employer for 2 more years. AAT doesnot grant visas. It only reasses and decide whether application sent back to immigration for processing. Once immigration grant visa you have to work for your sponsor. Doesnot matter how many hours. But it's not your choice though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S2020 Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 My question was Was will the decision of hearing impacted if one hasn’t worked full time hours since covid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virajhu Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 14 hours ago, S2020 said: My question was Was will the decision of hearing impacted if one hasn’t worked full time hours since covid? Hi, Visa 187 do not have any condition to work full time or part-time for your employer before the grant of the visa, even if you do not work for your employer before the grant, shouldn't matter, if you are onshore you get 3 months of time to start the work with your employer and if you offshore you get 6 months to start the work with your employer after the grant, it was only considered safe and helpful to convince the genuine position to the department in recent years when department foolishly started refusing the applications. You have a very solid reason of covid-19 for the reduction of the hours, so don't worry, if your employer is with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virajhu Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 and yes, the department does not count the time you worked for your employer before the grant of the visa, the two-year work condition starts after the grant, but if you are an existing employee before the grant of the visa and you have solid reasons like business ceased or any other issue, I think that will not impact your visa, if you can prove that you genuinely tried to stick with your role and employer and its the employer whose conditions are changed and he do not require your services as an employee onwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David08 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 7 hours ago, virajhu said: Hi, Visa 187 do not have any condition to work full time or part-time for your employer before the grant of the visa, even if you do not work for your employer before the grant, shouldn't matter, if you are onshore you get 3 months of time to start the work with your employer and if you offshore you get 6 months to start the work with your employer after the grant, it was only considered safe and helpful to convince the genuine position to the department in recent years when department foolishly started refusing the applications. You have a very solid reason of covid-19 for the reduction of the hours, so don't worry, if your employer is with you. You are giving people wrong information, subclass 187 has a condition that you have to be working full time for your employer for a period 2years after the grant and prior to getting a visa, if you’re not working for your employer full time then there is a higher chance that you won’t win AAT, there are exceptions for reduced number of work hours affected due to COVID-19. You can have mutual agreement with your employer to part ways in that 2year period after the grant but you have to prove you made a genuine attempt to stay with the employer, if your employer notify the department that you have ended your employment before the 2yrs obligatory period than your 187 visa gets cancelled. Please don’t give people wrong information and whoever reads this thread don’t make any decisions without talking to your registered migration agent. Thanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virajhu Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 15 hours ago, David08 said: You are giving people wrong information, subclass 187 has a condition that you have to be working full time for your employer for a period 2years after the grant and prior to getting a visa, if you’re not working for your employer full time then there is a higher chance that you won’t win AAT, there are exceptions for reduced number of work hours affected due to COVID-19. You can have mutual agreement with your employer to part ways in that 2year period after the grant but you have to prove you made a genuine attempt to stay with the employer, if your employer notify the department that you have ended your employment before the 2yrs obligatory period than your 187 visa gets cancelled. Please don’t give people wrong information and whoever reads this thread don’t make any decisions without talking to your registered migration agent. Thanks You are right David, but the working obligation is only after the grant of the visa not before the grant, and if you have any evidence or information regarding the work obligation before the grant of the visa, can you please share it here. Mate, I never provide deliberately misleading info, I have written here after reading the whole conditions of the 187 visa subclass. I think many people granted this visa without even stepping into their employer's business premises and only started work after the grant of the visa. and How is that possible for an offshore applicant to start work with an employer before the grant of the visa when he will get the entry only after the grant of the visa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virajhu Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 On 23/03/2021 at 11:48, Tinda said: No, I haven’t complained, its 31st month running its around 920 days. I think there are few members in this forum who waited around 31 or 32 months I hope we are not far Hi, I think now you have gone over 937 days, did you hear anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David08 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 2 hours ago, virajhu said: You are right David, but the working obligation is only after the grant of the visa not before the grant, and if you have any evidence or information regarding the work obligation before the grant of the visa, can you please share it here. Mate, I never provide deliberately misleading info, I have written here after reading the whole conditions of the 187 visa subclass. I think many people granted this visa without even stepping into their employer's business premises and only started work after the grant of the visa. and How is that possible for an offshore applicant to start work with an employer before the grant of the visa when he will get the entry only after the grant of the visa? Well again, which stream are we talking? I am TRT and I had be to employed full time for 2 years before I could even apply for 187 visa, if you’re talking about DE then yes you can get this visa without stepping into your potential place of work. The person you were replying to mentioned that he has concern that his AAT decision might be affected due to reduced number of hours, what this tells me? He or she is more likely TRT (457 visa), reduced number of hours is a cause of concern? Absolutely but immigration and AAT is taking account of reduced number of hours due to COVID-19, I won AAT while I wasn’t even working due to Covid-19 but I have been employed full time for number of years so that was in my favour. Condition of 457 is you have to be working full time for your employer and you have the option of applying 187visa after your 2yrs of full time employment. You really think everyone on here are offshore? As far as I know you cannot go to AAT if you’re an offshore applicant (I might be wrong but that’s what I have been told by my migration agent). Only employers can go to AAT for nomination only as they are Australian based. If you’re an offshore applicant this forum is useless for you. Well guess I don’t really know how offshore applicants start their work with an employer before the grant of the visa when he will get the entry only after the grant of the visa. But very good question, I’ll let someone else answer that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virajhu Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 49 minutes ago, David08 said: Well again, which stream are we talking? I am TRT and I had be to employed full time for 2 years before I could even apply for 187 visa, if you’re talking about DE then yes you can get this visa without stepping into your potential place of work. The person you were replying to mentioned that he has concern that his AAT decision might be affected due to reduced number of hours, what this tells me? He or she is more likely TRT (457 visa), reduced number of hours is a cause of concern? Absolutely but immigration and AAT is taking account of reduced number of hours due to COVID-19, I won AAT while I wasn’t even working due to Covid-19 but I have been employed full time for number of years so that was in my favour. Condition of 457 is you have to be working full time for your employer and you have the option of applying 187visa after your 2yrs of full time employment. You really think everyone on here are offshore? As far as I know you cannot go to AAT if you’re an offshore applicant (I might be wrong but that’s what I have been told by my migration agent). Only employers can go to AAT for nomination only as they are Australian based. If you’re an offshore applicant this forum is useless for you. Well guess I don’t really know how offshore applicants start their work with an employer before the grant of the visa when he will get the entry only after the grant of the visa. But very good question, I’ll let someone else answer that hi David, that is a different scenario, you are right in the case of TRT, yes the employee has to be working on a 457 visa before they even lodge the 187, but not if the applicant is DE, it's DE applicants, those who do not have to start work with their employer before the grant of the visa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponsor Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, virajhu said: hi David, that is a different scenario, you are right in the case of TRT, yes the employee has to be working on a 457 visa before they even lodge the 187, but not if the applicant is DE, it's DE applicants, those who do not have to start work with their employer before the grant of the visa. Even though applicant has a condition to work after visa grant but these days AAT department and immigration assessing files very carefully. In order to show the genuineness of position, we have to prove that we are working full time with employer and business can’t survive without our service. Recently AAT asked documents from my employer and they asked for all payslips, job samples ( proofs of whatsapp chat and emails with supplier customer and other skate holders) and group certificates. if employee was stood down, they asking for reasons, they asking for job keeper payments as well , how long employer received it and ( how many employees received), there is no connection between 187 and job keeper but they are enquiring everything. It’s very hard to win AAT for those who not working with business. Edited April 8, 2021 by Sponsor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinda Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 12 hours ago, virajhu said: Hi, I think now you have gone over 937 days, did you hear anything? Hello No, nothing yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parimal Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 I saw today its 948 days now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virajhu Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 33 minutes ago, Parimal said: I saw today its 948 days now. I think it's better you guys call the AAT now, and check the status and update us as well if possible for you, mine 937 will complete on the 20th of this month, I will phone them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virajhu Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Update- finally, AAT requested more documents an hour ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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