abhvor87700 Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 I'm sorry mate but I don't agree with you for visa application. I did my own for visa application and it took me an hour only to submit my visa and I don't see any difficulties while doing my own. Even if you go with MA you have to prepare your own documents. For Nomination, your employer can do (admin/accountant) because he/she has well known than lawyer/MA because he/she has all your details since you work for this company. incase of your employer do not want to do then go with lawyer/MA instead doing you own for your nomination visa only. That well may be in your case. It may not be so in many other applicant's case. Not a good idea to paint a picture with one colour. Let's face it, if these things were easy to do, not a lot of migration agents would have been able to thrive in their business like they do. Not everyone's case is as straight forward. Not everyone is comfortable putting their own application together and submitting documents on time. Not everyone would like to hold their breath and wonder if what they did was/is right. I am not trying to argue or steer the conversation in favour of migration agents. I am trying to contradict the statement that said "migration agents are useless" - they are not. I know first hand how useful they are or can be. I don't understand the concept of "preparing documents" how can you prepare one's document? Don't you simply provide these to your agent? If you meant that you have to prepare letters and submissions, than unfortunately your migration agent isn't competent enough or you should demand your migration agent to prepare these for you. rest, you have to prove. For example, you provide your passport, you don't prepare it! Your employer may be able to provide all documents but what if there is an enquiry? For example, if a case officer wants to know if there is a genuine need of the position being nominated, how is your employer going to tackle that? There are special provisions in the law that states what can be deemed as genuine and what can't. For that, you need someone who understand the term genuine needs to answer that query. This is how an application decision is delayed. If proper documents are not provided at the time of the application, the case officer can come back asking for them or might seek further explanation which results in the delay. Once again, I am not saying all MAs are as competent, but that is when we need to be wise enough to select the one that we know will act in our best interest. Kudos to you for being able to prepare your application, being able to submit documents and receiving a decision well within the time frame. Not everyone however, will be this competent and for them, there are specialists - Migration Agents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali369829 Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Hard to read long story ...stop it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERYSTORMY Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 We have to spread this awareness that “visa application is not hard and can easily do yourself” I have been on this and other forums for a good few years. In that time I have seen hundreds, maybe thousands of people get rejections with the loss of the fee and in many cases a ban from applying for a visa again. In pretty much every case, the person didn't know there was a problem - otherwise they would not have applied. In nearly every case, it could have been prevented by using a good agent. The Australian government passes literally thousands of amendments to immigration law every year. The immigration web site might publish 5. They work on the basis that it is the publics responsibility to seek professional advice and lack of knowledge of the law is of no interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abhvor87700 Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Hard to read long story ...stop it If this was meant for me - I'm sorry that you can't read long threads. But there is a solution to it. If you can't- don't! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunny786 Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Almost 10 months of waiting !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gt6 Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Good news for October applicants my nomination and visa lodge on 02/10/2015 just got the nomination approve this morning NSW pese request form 80 and international police clearance. hopefully I get my visa soon.:smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mila88 Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Almost 10 months of waiting !! have you called them Sunny? thats an awful long amount of time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunny786 Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 have you called them Sunny? thats an awful long amount of time Plenty of time ! calls and email sent them by my MA.. every time fu**k same answer , in process ! Its almost 3 yrs on 457 now ! Next year April my 457 visa expiring ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymanasalways Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 recently I was so frustrated with the change of the company. I launched visa 186 applications on 31/3/2016, and my employer is selling the business to a new owner. New ABN, but same role, same address, same employees by the end of April. I contacted different MA, the conclusion was that the new owner with new ABN is considered as start-up, and is difficult to apply for visa 457 nomination transfer, but the good news is that my past two years experiences count as valid for visa 186. what my new employer and I gonna do: 1) apply for new standard business sponsorship (not hard) 2) apply for nomination transfer (difficult and time consuming) 3) inform DIBP about the company change after company change hand (end of April), and wish they won't ask me to withdraw my visa 186 application, but 99% chance CO will ask me to withdraw. I know not many people been through this type of situation. But I will keep updating my status, so that if any body get into same situation like me, then I wish my post will be helpful to them. suggestions are appreciated and please wish me good luck. BTW, In the Movie "the Martian", Matt Damon the character stuck in Mar alone and helpless, but what he said was inspiring: I'm gonna have to science the s--- out of this place. I want to apply that mindset to my situation, rejection or not, I will make sure to make this period of time a best memory in my life. Thank you and have a nice day, and the most important: best luck to get what you fighting for!:notworthy: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warlock1881 Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Good news for October applicantsmy nomination and visa lodge on 02/10/2015 just got the nomination approve this morning NSW pese request form 80 and international police clearance. hopefully I get my visa soon.:smile: Did you upload the international police clearance during your initial lodgement or no ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali369829 Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Did you upload the international police clearance during your initial lodgement or no ? Congrates @Gt6... nomination n visa 26/10/2015 waiting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemtech123 Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Hard to read long story ...stop it Children.....children.....let's stop this argument.....let's just respect each others' choices and decisions.....if people want to use MA, let them....if people find it comfortable to do the application themselves, so be it....but remember, at the end of the day you have to stand by the choice that you make. We define things differently. What's hard for someone doesn't mean to say it's gong to be hard for everyone. What's complicated for some, can be simple for others. We are all different :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali369829 Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Children.....children.....let's stop this argument.....let's just respect each others' choices and decisions.....if people want to use MA, let them....if people find it comfortable to do the application themselves, so be it....but remember, at the end of the day you have to stand by the choice that you make. We define things differently. What's hard for someone doesn't mean to say it's gong to be hard for everyone. What's complicated for some, can be simple for others. We are all different :-) dont cry baby lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gt6 Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 @ warlock no actually I e mail it to my agent but she missed that email that is why and now the police Clarence is expired but I ask her to write the letter and summit it along with that explaining that I have never been out of Australian since I have the Clarence done. Hopefully she accept it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gt6 Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Thanks mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanJanJan Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Good news for October applicantsmy nomination and visa lodge on 02/10/2015 just got the nomination approve this morning NSW pese request form 80 and international police clearance. hopefully I get my visa soon.:smile: Happy to see new approvals ~~ Congrats and hope to hear about the visa approval from you soon!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gt6 Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Yeah I hope so. Just finish uploading those doc to my agent. Hope loy she submit if tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warlock1881 Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 @ warlockno actually I e mail it to my agent but she missed that email that is why and now the police Clarence is expired but I ask her to write the letter and summit it along with that explaining that I have never been out of Australian since I have the Clarence done. Hopefully she accept it. One more question, when was it expired ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yes Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Congrats to those who got their PRs!! Be FREE brothers and sisters!!! So far I've been waiting for 241 days for my visa... https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kY0XVAWzNjXAxAHC5-PPol_h4Lyl_wcz66c7BUelvXc/edit#gid=455421483 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanJanJan Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 That well may be in your case. It may not be so in many other applicant's case. Not a good idea to paint a picture with one colour. Let's face it, if these things were easy to do, not a lot of migration agents would have been able to thrive in their business like they do. Not everyone's case is as straight forward. Not everyone is comfortable putting their own application together and submitting documents on time. Not everyone would like to hold their breath and wonder if what they did was/is right. I am not trying to argue or steer the conversation in favour of migration agents. I am trying to contradict the statement that said "migration agents are useless" - they are not. I know first hand how useful they are or can be. I don't understand the concept of "preparing documents" how can you prepare one's document? Don't you simply provide these to your agent? If you meant that you have to prepare letters and submissions, than unfortunately your migration agent isn't competent enough or you should demand your migration agent to prepare these for you. rest, you have to prove. For example, you provide your passport, you don't prepare it! Your employer may be able to provide all documents but what if there is an enquiry? For example, if a case officer wants to know if there is a genuine need of the position being nominated, how is your employer going to tackle that? There are special provisions in the law that states what can be deemed as genuine and what can't. For that, you need someone who understand the term genuine needs to answer that query. This is how an application decision is delayed. If proper documents are not provided at the time of the application, the case officer can come back asking for them or might seek further explanation which results in the delay. Once again, I am not saying all MAs are as competent, but that is when we need to be wise enough to select the one that we know will act in our best interest. Kudos to you for being able to prepare your application, being able to submit documents and receiving a decision well within the time frame. Not everyone however, will be this competent and for them, there are specialists - Migration Agents. Personally I am very respectful and appreciated to you and others who spent valuable time typing such a long message and share your ideas. It was from following this forum that I got more ideas of the whole picture of 186 ENS. I just want to say that all those objective information is very useful to me. Thanks a lot to those who have already got their PR still be here to share your experience and also thanks the website organisers to keep this forum running for many years. We are all from different countries, doing different jobs, having different background stories, but today, now, who is browsing this thread, we share kind of the same mood: eager to get PR. Let us keep the forum positive!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gt6 Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 One more question, when was it expired ? It expired 3 month ago. It valid on 3 month from where m from. So crazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goan Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 It expired 3 month ago. It valid on 3 month from where m from. So crazy I think international police clearance is considered valid for one year by DIBP even though the certificate may state expiry of 3 or 6 months. This is what I was told by my MA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warlock1881 Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Oh ok Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ike Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Hey Guys..good morning to you all..this morning I wake up with very good news, what a morning:chatterbox: MA called me and was saying Our PR has granted, my heartbeat was nearly stop, almost crying during the conversation. wasnt expecting at least till mid of May(my wife was saying we gonna have our PR by end of April) And this is My time line 15/12/15--- Nomination And Visa lodge (3 months and 7 days ) HR Country Hair & Beauty Salon Manager No document requested (as we summited everything and wasn't expecting to ask anyway) Guys also one more things, my MA was saying she had one approval just few weeks earlier that was granted within two weeks, so immi is not predictable at all... i pray for you all and I'm sure you all will get soon... this is a great forum to be here and supporting each other...Thank you all.. specially Mark,Jazz, benny... im feeling like flying over the moon...:chatterbox: thank you guys again.. Wow Binu, I've just realised you have had your visa Granted! I remember us talking about our applications being lodged on the same day. Congrats bud, very Jealous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gt6 Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 I think international police clearance is considered valid for one year by DIBP even though the certificate may state expiry of 3 or 6 months. This is what I was told by my MA So the CO may accept it because even it say expire but I have never been out of Australia since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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