aussiederek Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 You might find that your views on retirement in Northern Island are somewhat clouded by rose-tinted-glasses....!! We moved back from Perth after 5 years in 2015 and can't wait to get back..!! We allowed a distorted view from holidays to cloud our judgement..!! reality bites when your here full time !! We've been in Perth for 30 years now. Fortunately been able to stay in our own accommodation in NI for couple of months almost every year since I retired 7 years ago, so know the score on many issues. May I say, it's different for everybody and is a very individual thing. That's what I want to get across to help others on this forum, as well as have a bit of a chat. Many members are struggling in their particular circumstances and subject to their individual personalities. It's very complex and people need encouragement in working it out for themselves. You are entitled to your opinion of course, but please don't tell me I'm seeing things through rose coloured glasses and that my experience, or that of others, would be the same as yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibbs Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 (edited) i think the problem for most people is they don't really see the real Perth because they live in the suburbs. If you live in the City or Subiaco or Nedlands or areas closer the city its a different Perth.. I was in the suburbs myself and rarely went out in the city. This is a problem. People move to "Perth", live in the 'burbs an hour out of the city and then complain it's boring. There is always something on, if you are open to it. In the last few weeks I've been the the V8SuperCars, AFL (I'm a season ticket holder), the beach (several times a week), walks along the river, out for coffee, to a few local micro-brewery bars, a cider house, a winery, a few pubs. Had a friends party (only adults) in a cricket club. Been to the cinema for some art films. Eaten out at a few great restaurants, been on a motorsport trackday. I've also had to skip other things like concerts, motorsport events, country drives in the hills etc. due to date clashes. To be honest, I'm shattered. But standing at the end of your driveway looking out for things to do, you'll get bored pretty quick. Perth is a little sterile, but for me that's nice for 'home'. When I want something else, I'll go on holiday (I've just spent 3 weeks in Europe doing exactly that). Edited May 17, 2016 by Bibbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Libra Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Can you substantiate your statement that most Brits who come here on a PR visa stay? http://australiapopulation2016.com/population-of-perth-in-2016.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiederek Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 http://australiapopulation2016.com/population-of-perth-in-2016.html During the mining boom people were flocking to Australia, particularly WA, for more than a decade. That article does not substantiate your assertion that most Brits on a PR visa stay. Many have relocated interstate and a not insignificant number have gone back to their country of origin, which includes the UK. WA has always been a boom / bust State and at present we are going through a 'bust' transition. The 'boom' times will come back again. This ABC article provides a more up-to-date picture of what is happening re the population here. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-24/slowing-population-growth-presents-economic-challenge/6801862 Note that the net overseas migration to Western Australia has dropped 71% over the past 2 years and more people are leaving WA for other States for the first time in over 10 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thl4kel Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 15 months since I left Perth, so not that long.. 5 years I worked in W.A - I worked in the CBD in Chevrons building, top of the terrace and a few other sky scrapers for international EPCM companies. I worked in Osbourne Park, Wangara, Landsdale for Perth local family businesses... I worked on Barrow Island and Port Hedland so I think I got a good feel for the state. Take away the terrace what has Perth got left, not much at all, its not really a city.. It doesn't not even have a decent shopping centre, you have to go to Joondalup for(worked on the construction of the new wings on that). Is it cosmopolitan? A little bit on the terrace, of the terrace theres still a lot of racism in the state, equal opps in the workplace really don't exist.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregc Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 15 months since I left Perth, so not that long.. 5 years I worked in W.A - I worked in the CBD in Chevrons building, top of the terrace and a few other sky scrapers for international EPCM companies. I worked in Osbourne Park, Wangara, Landsdale for Perth local family businesses... I worked on Barrow Island and Port Hedland so I think I got a good feel for the state. Take away the terrace what has Perth got left, not much at all, its not really a city.. It doesn't not even have a decent shopping centre, you have to go to Joondalup for(worked on the construction of the new wings on that). Is it cosmopolitan? A little bit on the terrace, of the terrace theres still a lot of racism in the state, equal opps in the workplace really don't exist.. Whats the Terrace ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibbs Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Whats the Terrace ? St Georges Terrace. A small road in Perth where all the main businesses have their HQs. (I currently work at the top end of it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibbs Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 (edited) It doesn't not even have a decent shopping centre, you have to go to Joondalup for Why would you go all the way out to Joondalup? It has about 300 shops. Whitfords has 300+ shops, Cannington has 290+, Garden City has 270+ Morley is huge (220+) , Innaloo (120) & Karrinyup (170) are both big areas. That's without all the surrounding specialist shops (from ethnic food to pool supplies). And that's ignoring Perth itself with everything discount from brand outlets at Waterfront through to Prada/LV/and Rolex around King St, through to the awful tourist shops in the Forrest Place. Okay, there isn't a Harrods or a Lafayette .. but I think most options are covered. Edited May 17, 2016 by Bibbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregc Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Perth so much? Who would have thought that this question would get so many answers !! I have been to oz twice, but only as a tourist, but I much preferred Perth to Melbourne. Perth was sunny, accessible,friendly. Melbourne was massive, wet, and a pain to get around. On this site though it does seem to get bashed up and many peoples answers and conclusions revolve around the recent boom and money and not the geography or people. Like Ali says, a lot of people that bash it on this site prob have not been there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amibovered Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Who would have thought that this question would get so many answers !!I have been to oz twice, but only as a tourist, but I much preferred Perth to Melbourne. Perth was sunny, accessible,friendly. Melbourne was massive, wet, and a pain to get around. On this site though it does seem to get bashed up and many peoples answers and conclusions revolve around the recent boom and money and not the geography or people. Like Ali says, a lot of people that bash it on this site prob have not been there. I'm sure Perth is a nice place for a holiday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERYSTORMY Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Who would have thought that this question would get so many answers !!I have been to oz twice, but only as a tourist, but I much preferred Perth to Melbourne. Perth was sunny, accessible,friendly. Melbourne was massive, wet, and a pain to get around. On this site though it does seem to get bashed up and many peoples answers and conclusions revolve around the recent boom and money and not the geography or people. Like Ali says, a lot of people that bash it on this site prob have not been there. But, Perth can be grey and wet - it gets twice the rainfall of London. Summer though is predictably clear and hot. Perth is a lot smaller than Melbourne and that is a double edged sword. It suits some who like that, others find as a result it gets boring as they have seen everything very quickly. As for the people, we actually found Sydney the friendliest people in Australia. Though that may be in part to our lifestyle - my wife is a artist by training and so mixing on the arts seen was a lot bigger in Sydney than Perth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul1Perth Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 I'm sure Perth is a nice place for a holiday. It's even better when you know you don't have to leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amibovered Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 It's even better when you know you don't have to leave. I'll take your word for it, I've a feeling others would disagree :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calNgary Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 But, Perth can be grey and wet - it gets twice the rainfall of London. Summer though is predictably clear and hot. Yes but to be fair, if its anything like Brisbane the amount that falls within a short time frame is much more than back in the UK hence stats show the rainfall is higher. I thought Singapore took the title for best storms ,,until i saw Brisbane's. So even though stats show the rainfall is higher, it buckets down in a hour here the amount that would take the UK days. I found the UK had lots of drizzly grey days, here i find it chucks it down very heavy and a few hours later everything's dry and its sunny again. Maybe thats the advantage of rainy season being in the hot summer i don't know.. Cal x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERYSTORMY Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Yes but to be fair, if its anything like Brisbane the amount that falls within a short time frame is much more than back in the UK hence stats show the rainfall is higher. I thought Singapore took the title for best storms ,,until i saw Brisbane's. So even though stats show the rainfall is higher, it buckets down in a hour here the amount that would take the UK days. I found the UK had lots of drizzly grey days, here i find it chucks it down very heavy and a few hours later everything's dry and its sunny again. Maybe thats the advantage of rainy season being in the hot summer i don't know.. Cal x It depends. Sometimes it is one big short storm, but Perth can certainly get days of drizzle and cold where it just rains pretty much all day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Getting endless sunshine at the moment in Brisbane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibbs Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 I'm sure Perth is a nice place for a holiday. I think the opposite. For me it's better to live here (relaxed and unstressed) and go somewhere else for a holiday. Perth's got enough stuff to have a constant tick-over of things to do while living here. but then you can get away for the big-ticket stuff, and come back to beaches and no traffic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibbs Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Perth can certainly get days of drizzle and cold where it just rains pretty much all day. And I've lived in Wales, where it's like that for months not days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celt Down Under Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 And I've lived in Wales, where it's like that for months not days. One of the triggers that went towards us emigrating from Wales back in 81. Walking into work in the middle of Summer 1980, coat on, pouring with rain, leaning into a howling wind, and to crown it off, Maggie Thatcher in power. Running through my mind was the thought, "There has to be a better lifestyle than this". There was, and we found it in this great big beautiful country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Libra Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 (edited) Rain all day here is an absolute blessing, you'll be hard pressed to hear anyone moaning about it, as it's such a rare thing. A a much needed commodity . For those that haven't visited this decade or at all, Edited May 19, 2016 by Libra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith and Linda Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 One of the triggers that went towards us emigrating from Wales back in 81.Walking into work in the middle of Summer 1980, coat on, pouring with rain, leaning into a howling wind, and to crown it off, Maggie Thatcher in power. Running through my mind was the thought, "There has to be a better lifestyle than this". There was, and we found it in this great big beautiful country. But you still wear the 'flat cap'! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibbs Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 middle of Summer 1980, coat on, pouring with rain, leaning into a howling wind, and to crown it off, Maggie Thatcher in power. So you are saying there were bad points and good points? (it's a joke - lets not turn this political). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith and Linda Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 So you are saying there were bad points and good points? (it's a joke - lets not turn this political). Maybe you just did? Celt was only stating his reasons and did not offer up discussion points! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul1Perth Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 It depends. Sometimes it is one big short storm, but Perth can certainly get days of drizzle and cold where it just rains pretty much all day. Very few and far between though. We've been here 24 years and I can't remember a "few days of constant drizzle". My youngest son was born here and if it's cloudy for a couple of days on the trot he says I hate this weather. Even in winter we get maybe a couple of days together when it buckets down and we get high winds with it. This weekend is looking like it's going to be one of those times. It's so rare though it makes the news and the weather bureau guy on the radio last night was saying it's the first real front of the winter. He was quite excited about it. Probably be back to normal cold mornings and blue skies by Monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul1Perth Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 So you are saying there were bad points and good points? (it's a joke - lets not turn this political). Had a bit of a chuckle at celts post as the reasons he gave for thinking about emigrating were just about the same. Including Margaret Thatcher. Maybe she was the last straw for a few people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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