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My Husband and I have been considering moving to Australia for a while!!!! We have both done the checks for the skilled visa and we don't have enough points :arghh:

 

Are there any other visa's that we could consider? I am a Beauty Therapist and currently own my own Business and my Husband owns an Estate Agents.

 

we are both 40/41 and have two kids 10 and 8

 

Desperately want to move to be near family

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@Rain80w

 

It doesn't look promising for skilled migration. Only one state is currently sponsoring for skilled migration for Real Estate Agents, South Australia.

 

There are several strict conditions that you must meet before SA would sponsor. Based on your post I don't imagine that you'll meet them other than possibly having strong family ties in SA. Do you currently have family living there, at all?

 

If not, the only way that I can think of, is to be sponsored by an employer on a 457 temporary residence visa. It's not beyond the realms of possibility to obtain employer sponsorship, but you will have to do a lot of door knocking first. This can lead to permanent residence if the employer is willing to sponsor you for that having worked there for 2 years.

 

Added: One last suggestion, as it may apply to you, is the significant investor visa, this is a visa that is open to investors that must invest $5M into Australian based securities, bonds and venture capital.

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Thank You CaptainC, my Brother-in-law is in Sydney :skeptical::skeptical::ssign19:

 

Will have to have a look into the 457 Temporary Residence Visa, they did mention a Student Visa maybe possible!!!!!????

 

That may be your best option I think.

 

It might be worth getting an assessment done by a registered migration agent as I'm afraid I don't know much about student visas.

 

You can find a registered agent at http://www.mara.gov.au there are plenty of them based around the world and I'm sure that you'll find one near you.

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Be aware though that there are very few courses which can lead to a pathway to a permanent residence visa.

 

The issue would be passing the skills assessment. Most skills assessments require several years post qualification experience. So, most find they have to go home in order to get that. The other issue being the lists change regularly and there is no guarantee that an occupation would still be on the list when the course and experience was completed.

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I agree with Very Stormy re the student visa. Its limited (ie work you can do on it) and also the pathway to then remaining in Aus is all but gone off the back of a student visa now. If you have kids I think its a very risky path to take to get to Aus.

 

And blimey, re the SA SS for real estate. SA, well, Adelaide is over run with real estate agents. Least that is how it seems. No shortage of them when we were house hunting and no end of new ones starting up or moving companies etc.

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My Husband and I have been considering moving to Australia for a while!!!! We have both done the checks for the skilled visa and we don't have enough points :arghh:

 

Are there any other visa's that we could consider? I am a Beauty Therapist and currently own my own Business and my Husband owns an Estate Agents.

 

we are both 40/41 and have two kids 10 and 8

 

Desperately want to move to be near family

 

Hi,

 

Given you have a close relative in Sydney, this is a good starting point for accessing Australian employers who may be willing to sponsor your husband.

 

Joy

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If you come on a 457, it would be temporary and you'd have to be aware that you'd almost certainly not get permanent residence. You'd be up for school fees, potentially have to leave at short notice, would find it difficult to get credit or a mortgage, and would be stuffing up any potential retirement funds in the UK. The 457 route is great for the young and single adventurer, but less suitable for mature families.

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Thanks for all your helpful advice, I like to think I am an optimistic person and I will remain positive! We just want to give our kids the best possible life.

 

Can I ask, why do you feel they will get a better life in Australia than in the UK?

 

I love many things about living in Australia, but if I had children now, I would see a better future for them in the UK/Europe than in Australia.

 

Australian education is good, but there is less choice in tertiary education - if your children want to study a popular subject at university they'll be fine, but if they want to do a more specialist course it may not be available in Oz - and they can't just go back to the UK to do it, because they'll be classed as foreign students and have to pay full fees.

 

When I arrived in Australia thirty years ago, it was the land of opportunity - lots of work, plenty of opportunities for promotion, great pay - but all that has changed as the country matures. Employment opportunities in Australia are pretty much the same as anywhere in the world now - except that it's not easy to move from state to state to find work, because the distances are so large and employers don't like hiring from interstate unless they're really stuck. Whereas in the UK, it's much easier to move from, say, Newcastle to Bristol to find a job or get a promotion.

 

Earlier on you said you were moving to be near family. That's a valid reason. I don't think "a better life for the children" is.

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We have been out to Australia twice now, and both times we have loved it, and before you say it, we know working in Australia is completely different to visiting on Holiday. We love the outdoor lifestyle and both my children love animals and Marine life. My Brother-In-law has been out there for 9 years and I have friends in Brisbane ( who I visited last month) who have been out there for 15 years.

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We have been out to Australia twice now, and both times we have loved it, and before you say it, we know working in Australia is completely different to visiting on Holiday. We love the outdoor lifestyle and both my children love animals and Marine life. My Brother-In-law has been out there for 9 years and I have friends in Brisbane ( who I visited last month) who have been out there for 15 years.

 

If you're focussing on them enjoying their childhood and the lifestyle in Oz would suit them, then that makes sense.

 

My only other comment is that there can sometimes be a fine line between being optimistic and being unrealistic. The fact is that Australia makes it hard for people to migrate, and there are some people who simply aren't eligible, no matter how much they want to move.

 

I would second the suggestion of consulting a MARA registered agent. They will give you an honest, unbiased opinion on what you can and can't achieve - unlike some "migration" websites and advisers who will tell you there are ways to sneak around the migration rules.

 

You will read "success stories" here of people who have gone out to Australia on a 457 and been able to get sponsored for PR by their employer - but beware, those stories make news because they're the exception, rather than the rule. An employer may promise to sponsor for PR but there is NO legal obligation for them to fulfil that promise - if they change their minds, you'll have no recourse, and will be forced back to the UK at the end of the contract. So many things can change in the course of a contract - there could be a downturn, the business could restructure or even the manager who made the promise could leave - so the promise should never be relied on 100%.

 

I'm not saying you shouldn't go for a 457 because I don't know your financial circumstances - but you do need to set your optimism aside and do some cold hard calculations. Can you afford the cost of uprooting yourselves. giving up your business and spending a large amount of money to move halfway round the world, when you have a better than 50% chance of being forced to leave a few years later?

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