wakeboard1980 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Where do you think the money has to come from if people want a decent NHS> UNDER A GOOSEBERRY TREE...... The tories raise money from taking it from the poor whilst protecting bankers bonuses....we need a rise in national insurance for a better health service and everyone who has been asked agrees with paying a little more for a better health service I thought the bankers bonuses go back to the previous parliament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BacktoDemocracy Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 I obviously haven't been asked about a rise in my NI Contributions... (considering National Insurance doesn't actually solely fund the NHS it seems many are also mis-informed). I think we pay enough taxes, the NHS like most government bodies is massively inefficient with the money it has. And whoever said the Tories punish the working man to benefit the rich... Actually a OECD report stated that the NHS is one of the most cost efficient health services and has one of the overall better outcomes for patients also, it is a piece of tory propaganda that it is a failing organisation which they propagate in order to justify privatisation by stealth because they are privatising it little by little under the guise of supposedly making it more efficient, nothing to do with giving it's business friends access to make profits out of treating you, businesses don't do anything unless they can see a profit in it and if they can get their hands on controlling big parts of the NHS then we will see how much they can make from having a monopoly position and how few staff they can get away with having in order to maximise profit. One of these outfits recently had to withdraw from running a hospital because they couldn't make a profit and meet CQC standards so your ni contribution is cheap when you consider that it also funds pensions and a number of other social provisions. What i would consider to be a more relevant question is why is a small country like the uk still strutting the world stage running off to wars in the middle east just like we have been doing for the last 200 years and why have we got nuclear deterrents and nuclear submarines like we are some kind of world imperial power, we have people living in penury and we cannot look after our mentally ill but we can bomb the **ck out of iraq and Afghanistan and play games shadowing Russian subs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakeboard1980 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Or form a coalition Government, can anyone see the current Spouse Visa rules reverting back to something like they use to be prior to the changes in 2012? The Greens leader just raised that issue during the debate. No responses as yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjez Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 To be fair I think thy are all ******s. Who would vote for them? I'm voting Russell Brand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul1977 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 To be fair I think thy are all ******s. Who would vote for them? I'm voting Russell Brand. The biggest idiot of them all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perthbum Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 cameron is being slated in the opinion polls over here as being very poor tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Amelie Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 cameron is being slated in the opinion polls over here as being very poor tonight. Really? By whom? Only, I'm watching Sky News, viewing the polls here in the UK as well as reading comments on Facebook and it seems that Milliband came off worse. Cameron overall did well. Nicola Sturgent came across very well also. It looks like UKIP are rising…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perthbum Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Really? By whom? Only, I'm watching Sky News, viewing the polls here in the UK as well as reading comments on Facebook and it seems that Milliband came off worse. Cameron overall did well. Nicola Sturgent came across very well also. It looks like UKIP are rising…. Not true, the polls have sturgeon top with miliband second and cameron 4th behind farage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Amelie Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Not true, the polls have sturgeon top with miliband second and cameron 4th behind farage ….well, I don't know where you are reading your polls from, but the results are not the same as what I am reading….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perthbum Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 ….well, I don't know where you are reading your polls from, but the results are not the same as what I am reading….. can you link to your results? not facebook please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perthbum Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 [h=1]latest results Ed Miliband narrowly beats David Cameron in snap poll after leaders' debate[/h] Guardian/ICM post-debate poll shows Miliband winning by a whisker over Conservative leader - by 25% to 24% – with Farage in third and Sturgeon pushing Clegg into fifth place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perthbum Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 here are the results from all the sources. [h=3]Ed Miliband narrowly beats David Cameron in snap poll ...[/h]report24.co.uk/.../ed-miliband-narrowly-beats-david-cameron-in-snap-p... 38 mins ago - An always tense, sometimes disjointed and occasionally cacophonous seven-way TV leaders' debate saw Ed Miliband just shave ahead of his rivals,according ... [h=3]Ed Miliband narrowly beats David Cameron in snap poll ...[/h]www.demanjo.com/.../ed-miliband-narrowly-beats-david-cameron-in-sn... 3 mins ago - A snap poll for ITV television carried out by polling firm Comres showedCameron, Miliband and the leader of the anti-European Union UK Independence Party, ... [h=3]Election debate 2015 LIVE: Cameron and Miliband face ...[/h]www.telegraph.co.uk › News › General election 2015 30 mins ago - Election 2015: David Cameron, Ed Miliband, Nigel Farage, Nicola Sturgeon and the other party leaders go head to head in the live debate on ITV - follow latest ... [h=3]Miliband narrowly beats Cameron in snap poll - Newstral.com[/h]newstral.com/en/article/.../miliband-narrowly-beats-cameron-in-snap-poll 17 mins ago - News that are related to the article The Guardian: «Miliband narrowlybeats Cameron in snap poll» from papers and blogs. [h=3]Ed Miliband narrowly beats David Cameron in snap poll ...[/h]www.onenewspage.co.uk › UK 11 mins ago - Guardian/ICM post-debate poll shows Miliband winning by a whisker over Conservative leader - by 25% to 24% – with Farage in third and Sturgeon pushing ... [h=3]Miliband narrowly beats Cameron in snap poll after leaders ...[/h]inagist.com/all/583755301024739329/ 34 mins ago - Miliband narrowly beats Cameron in snap poll after leaders' debate | Politics | The Guardian Guardian/ICM post-debate poll shows Ed Miliband winning by a ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Amelie Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 latest resultsEd Miliband narrowly beats David Cameron in snap poll after leaders' debate Guardian/ICM post-debate poll shows Miliband winning by a whisker over Conservative leader - by 25% to 24% – with Farage in third and Sturgeon pushing Clegg into fifth place Of course the Guardian would say that…the Telegraph gives an opposite view….it's actually very mixed but Nicola Sturgent was stronger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perthbum Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 ….well, I don't know where you are reading your polls from, but the results are not the same as what I am reading….. here you go.... [h=3]Ed Miliband narrowly beats David Cameron in snap poll ...[/h]report24.co.uk/.../ed-miliband-narrowly-beats-david-cameron-in-snap-p... 38 mins ago - An always tense, sometimes disjointed and occasionally cacophonous seven-way TV leaders' debate saw Ed Miliband just shave ahead of his rivals,according ... [h=3]Ed Miliband narrowly beats David Cameron in snap poll ...[/h]www.demanjo.com/.../ed-miliband-narrowly-beats-david-cameron-in-sn... 3 mins ago - A snap poll for ITV television carried out by polling firm Comres showedCameron, Miliband and the leader of the anti-European Union UK Independence Party, ... [h=3]Election debate 2015 LIVE: Cameron and Miliband face ...[/h]www.telegraph.co.uk › News › General election 2015 30 mins ago - Election 2015: David Cameron, Ed Miliband, Nigel Farage, Nicola Sturgeon and the other party leaders go head to head in the live debate on ITV - follow latest ... [h=3]Miliband narrowly beats Cameron in snap poll - Newstral.com[/h]newstral.com/en/article/.../miliband-narrowly-beats-cameron-in-snap-poll 17 mins ago - News that are related to the article The Guardian: «Miliband narrowlybeats Cameron in snap poll» from papers and blogs. [h=3]Ed Miliband narrowly beats David Cameron in snap poll ...[/h]www.onenewspage.co.uk › UK 11 mins ago - Guardian/ICM post-debate poll shows Miliband winning by a whisker over Conservative leader - by 25% to 24% – with Farage in third and Sturgeon pushing ... [h=3]Miliband narrowly beats Cameron in snap poll after leaders ...[/h]inagist.com/all/583755301024739329/ 34 mins ago - Miliband narrowly beats Cameron in snap poll after leaders' debate | Politics | The Guardian Guardian/ICM post-debate poll shows Ed Miliband winning by a ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Amelie Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Have a look here, I wouldn't be able to link results from FB….I base the FB results from the overall comments. Have a look via http://news.sky.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perthbum Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Of course the Guardian would say that…the Telegraph gives an opposite view….it's actually very mixed but Nicola Sturgent was stronger. read above, it is all the reports Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perthbum Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Have a look here, I wouldn't be able to link results from FB….I base the FB results from the overall comments. Have a look via http://news.sky.com you said cameron had won? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Amelie Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Sorry…but unless the headlines are playing reverse psychology…It's incorrect…I've just watched Sky news paper reviews and the reviewers comments, and all have agreed that Milliband has not come across well. Where are you based Perthbum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perthbum Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Sorry…but unless the headlines are playing reverse psychology…It's incorrect…I've just watched Sky news paper reviews and the reviewers comments, and all have agreed that Milliband has not come across well. Where are you based Perthbum? I am on all the news sources and have just posted the reactions, miliband came across better than cameron...look again below. [h=3]Ed Miliband narrowly beats David Cameron in snap poll ...[/h]report24.co.uk/.../ed-miliband-narrowly-beats-david-cameron-in-snap-p... 38 mins ago - An always tense, sometimes disjointed and occasionally cacophonous seven-way TV leaders' debate saw Ed Miliband just shave ahead of his rivals,according ... [h=3]Ed Miliband narrowly beats David Cameron in snap poll ...[/h]www.demanjo.com/.../ed-miliband-narrowly-beats-david-cameron-in-sn... 3 mins ago - A snap poll for ITV television carried out by polling firm Comres showedCameron, Miliband and the leader of the anti-European Union UK Independence Party, ... [h=3]Election debate 2015 LIVE: Cameron and Miliband face ...[/h]www.telegraph.co.uk › News › General election 2015 30 mins ago - Election 2015: David Cameron, Ed Miliband, Nigel Farage, Nicola Sturgeon and the other party leaders go head to head in the live debate on ITV - follow latest ... [h=3]Miliband narrowly beats Cameron in snap poll - Newstral.com[/h]newstral.com/en/article/.../miliband-narrowly-beats-cameron-in-snap-poll 17 mins ago - News that are related to the article The Guardian: «Miliband narrowlybeats Cameron in snap poll» from papers and blogs. [h=3]Ed Miliband narrowly beats David Cameron in snap poll ...[/h]www.onenewspage.co.uk › UK 11 mins ago - Guardian/ICM post-debate poll shows Miliband winning by a whisker over Conservative leader - by 25% to 24% – with Farage in third and Sturgeon pushing ... [h=3]Miliband narrowly beats Cameron in snap poll after leaders ...[/h]inagist.com/all/583755301024739329/ 34 mins ago - Miliband narrowly beats Cameron in snap poll after leaders' debate | Politics | The Guardian Guardian/ICM post-debate poll shows Ed Miliband winning by a ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Amelie Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 you said cameron had won? Yes, from the discussion….but as I have asked before and keep asking about these polls…who and how do you vote on these polls? Who is voting on the 5 or so polls? Milliband has basically shown himself to be so incompetent that he throws comments and ideas and ends up with being so confused with his own argument…not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perthbum Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 just in Rolling coverage of the ITV leaders’ debate, with David Cameron, Ed Miliband, Nick Clegg, Nigel Farage, Natalie Bennett, Nicola Sturgeon and Leanne Wood, with reaction and analysis, and the poll results as they come in Snap poll suggests 25% thought Miliband won Cameron on 24%, Farage on 19%, Sturgeon 17%, Clegg 9% On forced choice between Cameron and Miliband vote split 50/50 Leaders quizzed on the economy, NHS, immigration and the future of Britai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Amelie Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 just in Rolling coverage of the ITV leaders’ debate, with David Cameron, Ed Miliband, Nick Clegg, Nigel Farage, Natalie Bennett, Nicola Sturgeon and Leanne Wood, with reaction and analysis, and the poll results as they come in Snap poll suggests 25% thought Miliband won Cameron on 24%, Farage on 19%, Sturgeon 17%, Clegg 9% On forced choice between Cameron and Miliband vote split 50/50 Leaders quizzed on the economy, NHS, immigration and the future of Britai I am watching SKY News now…and that is inconsistent with your poll 'information'…sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perthbum Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 looks very close. Most read Top Videos News Politics Football Celebs TV & Film Weird News TRENDINGLIVE ELECTION DEBATESGERMANWINGS PLANE CRASHGENERAL ELECTION 2015JILL DANDOANDREAS LUBITZ Sport Technology Money Travel UsVsTh3m Home News Ampp3d Live election debates [h=1]Who won the Leaders' Debate? Here's the data to tell us...[/h] 23:10, 2 April 2015 By Martin Belam , Federica Cocco [h=2]With the 7-way Leaders' Debate finished, we look at what the data says about who won[/h] 33 Shares Share Tweet +1 Polling organisations have scrambled to interview the public on who they thought was the winner of tonight's debate, and the results are VERY mixed. [h=3]Ed Miliband wins first poll[/h]Ed Miliband won by a whisker in the first poll - with a quarter of viewers saying he'd performed best. Cameron followed closely behind. [h=3]Cameron and Miliband - it's a tie[/h]ICM also asked viewers of the leaders' debate who they thought had performed better between Cameron and Miliband. The public were split 50%. Our own Mirror/Survation poll also found the two main party leaders drawing: Cameron and Miliband were favourites with a quarter of viewers, closely followed by Farage. David Cameron - 25% Ed Miliband - 25% Nigel Farage - 24% Nicola Sturgeon - 15% Nick Clegg - 6% Natalie Bennett - 3% Leanne Wood - 2% These two polls reflect the nationwide polls which have put Labour and the Conservatives neck and neck for a while now. [h=4]POLL TRACKER[/h] JanFebMar0%10%20%30%40% Labour Conservatives Liberal Democrats UKIP Green Others Question asked: Who would you vote for if the election was tomorrow? [h=3]Sturgeon wins according to YouGov[/h]YouGov’s poll shows radically different results. The SNP’s Sturgeon was the clear winner here at 28%, followed by Farage at 20%. [h=3]And then there's even more confusion[/h]The COMRES poll shows a three-way tie between Miliband, Cameron and Farage. With Sturgeon just a point behind them. Our Survation poll found that Natalie Bennett was the worst performer according to 23% of viewers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Amelie Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 They are close…but again I have no idea who is voting on these polls. Did you watch the debate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perthbum Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 i am watching sky news now…and that is inconsistent with your poll 'information'…sorry who do you think won out of miliband and cameron? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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