Harpodom Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 A truly great man, will be missed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Les Patterson Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 A truly great man, will be missed You were't here on 11th November 1975 were you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Regardless of November 1975, Malcolm Frazer was the last of the Liberals. A tough leader but realised there was far more than an economy. A man of great conviction. His stance against apartheid and present day treatment of asylum seekers stood him out from the present ill liberal bunch at the helm. RIP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Not forgetting his stance on making government more answerable to the people. The setting up of the Ombudsman for example. Not forgetting SBS TV. Administrative Law Reform being another.All things the present Liberals are attempting to reverse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 You were't here on 11th November 1975 were you Kerr was the one at fault. Frazer saw the opportunity and used it and was benefactor to the decision. Gough Whitlam and Frazer made their peace in the following years. In fact I believe they called each other friends. Unlike his views of the worm Howard. Someone Frazer detested probably on equal footing to the direction the Liberal Party took from Howards time in office to the present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harpodom Posted March 20, 2015 Author Share Posted March 20, 2015 I only knew the Malcolm Fraser who stood up for refugees and human rights. People can obviously change, for the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Frazer ran a tight ship by all accounts and was formative. He was not a Thatcher fan on policy and certainly no fan of the way The Liberals became Conservatives by default. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parley Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 I wasn't taking much notice of politics back in those days, but Malcolm Fraser won the largest political victory in Australia's history. Whatever anyone thinks the public vindicated him after the dismissal of Whitlam. He won the ensuing election by a massive margin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Les Patterson Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Whilst the death of any person is sad he will always be Kerr's Cur to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozmaniac Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Whilst the death of any person is sad he will always be Kerr's Cur to me At last, I can stop maintaining the rage now that both of the offenders are dead. Glad to know I wasn't the only one to keep the faith! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parley Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Obviously Australia disagreed with you given the election thumping. The Coalition won 30 seats from Labor and won the 1975 election with a 55 seat majority. A victory of unprecedented proportions and never matched since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Les Patterson Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 At last, I can stop maintaining the rage now that both of the offenders are dead. Glad to know I wasn't the only one to keep the faith! The rage will only stop with me when I draw my last breath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Les Patterson Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Obviously Australia disagreed with you given the election thumping.The Coalition won 30 seats from Labor and won the 1975 election with a 55 seat majority. A victory of unprecedented proportions and never matched since. So what..............and I was there in Martin Place in March 1983 listening to his last electioneering speech as PM......it was good booing him (and John Howard)....... We knew he was gone as did his government Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skani Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 A victory of unprecedented proportions and never matched since. By a former leader who left the Liberal Party in disgust at what it has become. I rather like this comment: "Detested him in '75, but he turned out to have more principle in his little finger than the entire Howard and Abbott front benches." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parley Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 I must have missed that comment. Howard is our 2nd longest serving PM at 11 years and was well loved by the people who kept re-electing him. He brought interest rates down from 18% levels under Labor to nice low levels as well as delivering huge surpluses. Very much respected by most people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 I must have missed that comment. Howard is our 2nd longest serving PM at 11 years and was well loved by the people who kept re-electing him. He brought interest rates down from 18% levels under Labor to nice low levels as well as delivering huge surpluses. Very much respected by most people. A horrid, rather pompous little man, whom was re elected due mostly to Australians experiencing the biggest in history with nothing to do with which government was in power. Deceit and lies being his legacy. Along with GST (Fraser was against) and attempting to bribe his way into another term, happily losing his own seat in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight7 Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Fraser, much to my surprise , turned out to be good 'un. He will be missed. None of his calibre in politics today, sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest66881 Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 They were both Liberal prime ministers who rode in on large majorities, but no one would say Malcolm Fraser and Tony Abbott saw eye-to-eye at the end. In his final months, the late former prime minister had no qualms about telling the world just what he thought about the nation's current leader. Mr Fraser this year posted a series of angry messages to his Twitter account where he was scathing of Mr Abbott's administration. In one message, critical of the government's treatment of Human Rights Commission president Gillian Triggs, Mr Fraser said the Prime Minister was 'behaving like a dictator'. He added: 'get rid (of) Abbott'. Scroll down for video +5 Passed on: Malcolm Fraser, the nation's 22nd prime minister from 1975 to 1983, was unimpressed with various aspects of Tony Abbott's administration. The former Liberal shifted considerably to the left during his time in power +5 Target: Mr Fraser was no fan of Mr Abbott's administration, regularly flaying him in tweets this year +5 In a statement on Friday afternoon, Mr Abbott was generous in his remarks about the 22nd prime minister, praising his work in establishing Australian institutions such as the Federal Police. 'Abbott dangerous to harmony, peace, a destroyer of wisdom': Mr Fraser was very critical of Mr Abbott, posting links to foreign news outlets and adding his own criticsms 'No idea of what a nation should be': Mr Fraser was never afraid to stand up for what he believed :laugh: Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3003638/Like-dictator-dangerous-peace-destroyer-wisdom-Malcolm-Fraser-s-furious-tweets-reveal-fraught-relationship-Tony-Abbott.html#ixzz3UvHIWN3E Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelP Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Fraser was a unifier. Abbott a divider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTA Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 A horrid, rather pompous little man, whom was re elected due mostly to Australians experiencing the biggest in history with nothing to do with which government was in power. Deceit and lies being his legacy. Along with GST (Fraser was against) and attempting to bribe his way into another term, happily losing his own seat in the process. I don't think he was happy to lose his seat, but he did such a great job, that in the end, the public thought there wasn't much more he could do, so why not give he other side a turn. And we all know how that turned out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinkla Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 I don't think he was happy to lose his seat, but he did such a great job, that in the end, the public thought there wasn't much more he could do, so why not give he other side a turn. And we all know how that turned out. Yes - it turned out with the Rudd-Gillard-Rudd government managing to dodge the Global Financial Crisis that crippled mature economies across the Globe. You really have to have lived in a country affected by the GFC to understand just what a significant achievement that was. I am puzzled that they never managed to communicate this to the voting public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parley Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 They were duds. We survived the GFC despite them, due to our Iron Ore exports, nothing to do with their hapless schemes, which our kids and grandkids will still be suffering from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinkla Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 They were duds.We survived the GFC despite them, due to our Iron Ore exports, nothing to do with their hapless schemes, which our kids and grandkids will still be suffering from. Such as? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Les Patterson Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 I don't think he was happy to lose his seat, but he did such a great job, that in the end, the public thought there wasn't much more he could do, so why not give he other side a turn. And we all know how that turned out. Really ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Les Patterson Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 They were duds.We survived the GFC despite them, due to our Iron Ore exports, nothing to do with their hapless schemes, which our kids and grandkids will still be suffering from. I call bullshit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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